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39 comments on A Vision Splendid or Selective Myopia: Exploiting the Australia 2020 Summit
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I think getting oil depletion or any energy resources onto 2020 agenda would be a good thing (energy only mentioned in context of infrastructure or low-carbon) and its worth the effort trying, with Boofs rider that 'Perhaps someone should fly the flag without investing too much emotional energy'. If its not rude to start throwing names around here i think Ian Dunlop would have to be a starter, and alot of ground might also be made by canvassing/push-polling those delegates likely to be victim both to oil prices and to pre-peak thinking.
I couldn't find any frontend for the event, http://www.pm.gov.au/news/releases/2008/media_release_00020.cfm
is the press release and prob the place to watch for updates. Naturally the same idea has occurred to others..http://2020summit.org/
Yeah - I think it will be a week or two until the site appears.
Ian Dunlop is a good suggestion. Bruce Robinson is another obvious candidate.
Anyone else spring to mind ?
Maybe we should send Phil - he's pretty presentable - and the train journey from Melbourne isn't too onerous :-)
Rail and Bus
Hmmm - are you saying there isn't a Canberra - Melbourne rail link ?
I thought there was one from Sydney - Melbourne - so presumably it doesn't go via Canberra ?
I quite like the idea of building one of those new French AGV train lines between Melbourne and the Sunshine Coast - a diabolically expensive concept perhaps, but I still find it enticing...
The 'fast' XPT to Sydney is not popular in regional Vic, its introduction has seen much cheaper all-stops services reduced.
Anyone know of plans to extend rail service to Canberra? I can't see it soon, a) it'll be a cold day in Alice Springs before politicians choose to give up Qantas Club for rail and $5 pies, & b) who else wants to go to Canberra.
Obviously I'd love to go but I doubt I'll get an invite :-)
The 'XPT' is pretty third world in terms of the express part of XPT. The line from Sydney to Brisbane is even worse. And yes it requires a bus to get to Canberra.
I'd settle for a lot less than the TGV. The current trains could travel a lot faster if the track was brought up to a slightly more modern standard.
cheers
Phil.
Sharp eyes Liam. the 2020summit.org website is thick on the cynicism, which I tend to regard as the appropriate expectation of this gathering. We should seize the opportunity however to blow some smoke, prick some bubbles and generally try to spoil the party and the crazy ideas that will come from it.
Ian Longfield