The contents below are paid advertisements. Their appearance does not imply an endorsement by The Oil Drum.
“Most people spend more time and energy going around problems than in trying to solve them.”
—Henry Ford
Search The Oil Drum with Google
User login
Contact
- Content: editors at theoildrum dot com
- Tech support: support at theoildrum dot com
Personnel
- Editors: Prof. Goose, Heading Out, Stuart Staniford, Nate Hagens
- DrumBeat Editor: Leanan
- Contributors: ace, Engineer-Poet, Gail the Actuary, jeffvail, JoulesBurn, Khebab, Robert Rapier
- TOD:Local: Glenn
- TOD:Europe: Chris Vernon, Euan Mearns, Francois Cellier, Jerome a Paris, Luís de Sousa, Rembrandt, Rune Likvern, Ugo Bardi
- TOD:Canada: benk, Libelle
- TOD:ANZ: Big Gav, Phil Hart, aeldric
- Technician: Super G
Recently on TOD:World
TOD:Local
- Summer Streets a Success!
- Plan for Hydro-Fracture Drilling for Unconventional Natural Gas in Upstate New York
- Enjoying Life Close to Home: Fun Streets
TOD:Europe
- Russia: There Is Life After Peak Oil
- Should EROEI be the most important criterion our society uses to decide how it meets its energy needs?
- Oilwatch Monthly - August 2008
TOD:Canada
- Compressed Air Energy Storage - How viable is it?
- Oil Megaproject Update (July 2008)
- Weekend Energy Listening: Wind Power with Paul Gipe
TOD:ANZ
Peak Oil Primers
Blogroll
Energy Sites
- The Coming Global Oil Crisis
- Die Off
- Dry Dipstick
- Energy Bulletin
- From the Wilderness
- Life After the Oil Crash
- Peak Oil Crisis
- Peak Oil News and Message Boards
- Powerswitch
- Rigzone
- Matthew Simmons
- Wolf at the Door
Environment & Sustainability Sites
- The Daily Green
- EcoGeek
- Eco Street
- Green Car Congress
- Green Options
- green.alltop.com
- Gristmill
- RealClimate
- Sustainablog
- Treehugger
- WorldChanging
Blogs
- The Big Picture
- Casaubon's Book
- Cleantech Blog
- Clusterf
k Nation (Jim Kunstler) - The Cost of Energy
- Ecological Economics
- David Strahan
- Econbrowser
- The Energy Blog
- Entropy Production
- Environmental Economics
- European Tribune
- GraphOilology
- jeffvail.net
- The Mess That Greenspan Made
- Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
- Mobjectivist
- Peak Energy (Australia)
- Peak Energy (USA)
- R-Squared
- Resource Insights
Organizations
License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.






GAIA Host Collective
And carpenter ants make great use of that, with a symbiotic fungus instead of a symbiotic protozoan. We could too, betcha.
If the creepie-crawlies haven't stumbled upon a given biochemical solution over their gazillion-odd generations, it may be hard to do. We should look more closely.
I looked for this but couldn't find it. The do have a bacteria symbiot blochmannia floridanus. The thing I like about the mushrooms is that you can just do it and not worry about intellectual property. That is what I was teasing Robert about. And, you probably would not go broke. Lot's of work though.
Chris
Now I have it. Just had to recall back a bit. It is leaf cutter ant that cultivate fungus. http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/atta/Pages/Leafcut.html
Since ants have a sweet tooth, perhaps these fungii produce more starch than protein and fiber.
This might work out better than mushrooms. But, it seems that the cycle is more complex that just producing
food:
http://www.asm.org/microbe/index.asp?bid=30329
Chris
Ah, good link Chris. Yes, I meant leaf-cutter ants but typed carpenter ants. One of the hazards of posting with too little sleep. I had been unaware of the complexity of the process involving specialized ant-poo enzymes though. There's no reason that evolution would select for simplicity per se, and moreover if it were simple to digest cellulose and produce net energy you'd expect a lot more organisms to have the ability as a fallback metabolic adjunct. Anything we find going on in ant and termite guts is likely to be complex or we'd see that it had evolved multiple times in different species. (Idle ponder - why is this only significantly seen in social insects - foraging efficiency and marginal EROEI?)
That seems like a good question. How far can we get with the idea that what in social insects is called cultivation, is called parasitism in the loners? Some wasps are evolved to lay eggs in caterpillers. If they were more social they might raise the caterpillers? Perhaps it is just a matter of needing to devote constant attention so the social structure is required?
Chris