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I can see the future more clearly -- pieces of the puzzle falling into place.
1. Taxi drivers can't get fuel.
2. CapitalOne sent me a letter begging me to call them and explain why I wasn't using their credit card any more, and promising all sorts of wonderful things if I were to make it my first choice again.
The have-nots are being squeezed into a shapeless mass of protoplasm which the mainstream media will process into invisibility. The haves will go on living in style, mostly unaware of the suffering around them. I would certainly rather be a have than a have-not -- but nothing guarantees my present good fortune, which is nothing more than (mostly lucky) good health and the (temporary) fortune of having been born in a wealthy country. Trying to "help" the have-nots is such a daunting challenge, and leads to so many intractable thickets (such as "bringing Democracy to the Middle East" -- by making war on them).
It's no wonder people give up trying and retreat into mindless consumerism, or fundamentalist religion of some variety. Another choice would be total despair and depression --
Thank the (insert choice) for the spirit of activism that pervades TheOilDrum -- it's a lifeline to sanity in what sometimes appears to be a totally insane, or at least meaningless world.
A lifeline to sanity, indeed. Although to the world, we are the ones who are insane. As my girlfriend says, "Will you stop with this peak oil thing!!?"
At the moment, it is a "mixed marriage," peaknik, non-peaknik. Difficult thing, that, as I am sure many here can attest. ; )
My wife has seen "A Crude Awakening", has heard me discuss it with numerous friends and family, and is discouraged because we currently fly to visit her family on the other coast once a year. She also thinks this lifestyle we lead is 'normal' (though we have a passive solar house with 2 kW PV [thermostat set to 66F], hybrid cars, bicycles, clothesline, large garden, 45 fruit/nut trees in an edible landscaping with lots of small fruits in addition, small sheep flock, etc). Since she looks forward to the cross-country trip, she would prefer to keep it out of her mind (as AMTRAK is not being expanded to mitigate drastically reduced air travel).
"(as AMTRAK is not being expanded to mitigate drastically reduced air travel)."
yet.
so you didn't notice Bush's little budget slashed Amtrak?
I would classify that as going the exact OPPOSITE direction of "expanded" - wouldn't you?
Bush attempting to cut Amtrak's funding is exactly why I am convinced we are headed down the tubes - exactly the wrong decisions made on the way down in order to protect the status quo and entrenched (money) interests...K-street gets a LOT more say in what becomes policy than I or any other well-informed voter...(and few voters are well-informed from what I see...)
what about Texas losing federal funding for that light rail project - is that a good example of not doing what is needed "yet"?
I guess I should give you credit for your relentless optimism in the face of all evidence to the contrary - but I think it is part of the problem
had dinner with a Texas-based physicist the other night - he's a cornucopian and believes cellulosic ethanol will save us from oil depletion - and this is a brilliant well-educated man....his belief in spite of reality is depressing to me...
Don't forget the efforts the government is making to make air travel a fast and pleasurable experience by having you take inventory of items before travel and pleasurable via the latex gloves hands of TSA on your body.
(Yea, its almost like they want you to NOT travel via air.)
I'm too lazy and forgetful to find the links, but maybe some others aren't: apparently the US is putting a lot of pressure on the EU to make air travel to here a lot more burdensome and intrusive, including supplying information on friends and family members who accompany flyers to the gates. It's much worse than just that, but I forget the details and only remember my disgust.
US tightens visa waiver measures
Personally, I have stopped travelling to the USA. The financial cost keeps on dropping but the other hurdles keep on rising. Frankly, I can't be bothered.
OTOH, the French have committed to electrifying every meter of their rail lines, are rapidly expanding their rent-a-bike programs, have started on the next phase of TGV building (Phase I took 30+ years) and have recently announced a new program to build 1,500 km of new tram lines in a decade (and just started on a new nuclear reactor in France, the second EPR (next generation nuke).
A real world example of "doing it right" and benefiting from it, may shake some sense into the next President (no hope for GWB).
Best Hopes,
Alan
BTW, what Texas city lost federal funding for light rail ? I may have missed that.
isn't electrified rail bad? I thought the power was going out? and france gets it's electricity from nuclear. how are they going to mine all that uranium during peak oil?
Alan - you are preaching to the choir on France doing it right - hell, even their anti-GM crop stance, protectionism against imported foods, widely dispersed regional agriculture looks like it will pay off very well down this road
I would LOVE to see a well-managed crash program of pv in the Mojave, wind in Dakota, pumped storage where appropriate and all to feed expanded and electrified rail, light rail etc. throughout the US
unfortunately I see Amtrak cuts despite growth in ridership
umm, I couldn't remember which Texas city myself - but you were irate about it what, two weeks ago? long threads about it.....I'm blanking
Sometimes I'm really thankful that I recently established French citizenship for my kids. Next I need to get my wife citizenship.
Granted, it's likely that by the time I realize it's time to bail out of the US and head to France, travel will be too difficult for us to do so...
The cancellation I was aghast at (staggered by the stupidity of) was an extension of the Washington DC Metro (subway) to Tyson's Corner and Dulles Airport.
18% federal funding of $900 million to save 20 to 25,000 b/day (more in an oil supply emergency).
A some point, public policies will change (see Rush to Ethanol) and I want them to change in a positive way.
Best Hopes,
Alan
the next president will be better. it doesn't matter because Amtrak ridership is up.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118781538275205642.html
biggest jump since the late 70s. wonder what caused that jump?
"the next president will be better"
why are you so confident of this? I very much doubt if McCain would be any improvement with endless war on Jihad (redundant as that is I know) his main campaign promise (hard to help pay for Amtrak when you are paying for all those "smart" bombs and depleted uranium bullets)
and I am not confident that either Obama or Clinton would be much better - certainly their support for ethanol etc. does not give me a lot of hope...status quo candidates will give us more of the same...and don't forget, Congress gets to decide where the $ goes, and they seems to really really like autos and the like...
"biggest jump since the late 70s"
and DESPITE that big jump, Bush is trying to cut Amtrak's budget - wouldn't want Americans to get out of their cars after all....
HIllary supports Amtrak.
http://trains4america.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/hillary-clinton-on-amtrak...
so does obama
http://mwhsr.blogspot.com/2007/04/barack-obama-co-sponsors-pro-amtrak.html
Actually, I fully expect AMTRAK to be sold off in pieces to individual states or consortia of states. Some of the intercity pieces will remain in place, the transcontinental lines will be gone. I fully expect this to happen just a year or two before the airlines start to go belly up big time. This is the USA, after all, what else would you expect!
With any luck, under the more competent management of the states, maybe enough intercity links will be put together to actually make it possible to make it across the continent on a series of hops. It might take many days, though.
I hear exactly what your saying and understand completely. The scope and scale of the Long Emergency of what is now upon us with oil having peaked in 05, is a topic of discussion I would love to have more of with my spouse, but she is sick and tired of the topic and I can rarely broach the subject without a strong reaction. She says, "Ok fine. There's peak oil, sure I understand it but I don't want to talk about something I can't do anything about. So let's talk about something more positive." She right, yet it's like falling towards Earth with no parachute while talking about the wonderful weather we are experiencing.
nearly 3 years into peak oil and things are TERRIBLE. not as bad as being 150 years into peak whale oil though.
whale oil was replaced by crude oil - can you show me a replacement that is ready to replace crude on a worldwide scale, that exists NOW, not as some "possibly very exciting. needs some developement. quite hopeful that someday" lab experiment like Busard fusion reactors or cellulosic ethanol?
you bring up whale oil a lot, and it is does very little to argue your case
"can you show me a replacement that is ready to replace crude"
In an episode of Futurama we discovered the world replaced crude with... Whale Oil from vast whale farms. (Exxon) Mobil Dick it was branded. Well I thought it was funny anyway.
electricity.
yes it does. it proves things aren't as bad as thought. it's the only time something like peak oil has hit and we found something else. we found kerosene and then replaced that with electricity. kerosene didn't have a lot of use until airplanes came a long. it appears that once again electricity will replace oil(kerosene).
It lit a lot of lamps until jets came along. In 1860 the population of the world was about equal to the current pop of China. That was about the time that coal oil replaced whale oil and later was replaced with kerosene.
This summer may be the first summer that folks start occasionally finding the house dark and the AC off due to elect shortages. A few country wide 100 degree days will test the grid. After that you and many others will have a more firm grasp of reality, and start thinking about heating your homes with $5 fuel oil next winter, followed in a few years by an insufficient winter NG grid or low stock build in storage.
Whale oil? Your best example is whale oil?! Better listen to DipChip.
Speaking of arctic open waters, I read an article today with information about arctic ice cover. In 1989 80% of the arctic ice cover was 10 years or older. Now, only 3% is 10 years or older. The atmosphere is thinest at the poles, and consequently the north pole is warming much faster than lower lattitudes. In the Summer, with ice cover, 95% of the sunlight is reflected back out of the atmosphere, but without ice cover 90% of the energy is absorbed into the water, and that added heat reduces ice cover even more, acting as a positive feedback.
I postulate four tipping points to global warming. The first is the loss of arctic ice, as evidenced by the unprecedented melt in the Summer of 07. The second will be the wholesale loss of methane from peat bogs such as Siberia in the latitude just below the arctic. Third will be the partial collapse of Greenland and West Antarctica, together raising sea levels about 10 feet. Fourth will be the warming of oceans enough to release methane caldrates, and that will be our final undoing. That is unless we find a way to stop the climatic momentum we have initiated over the past 130 years.
Here's how I justify being "chicken little" for my friends and family: if the sky really is going to fall, and it is starting already, it's better to have heard warning than be taken completely by surprise, even if one rejects the warning at first. Of course, there are some that don't want to hear stuff and you have to back off -- but later on that same person, having seen stuff, will come back and want to talk about it.
This is not just peak oil, but also the economy, geopolitics, 9-11, etc. On the last issue (before etc) I used to get incredulous guffaws. Now people either don't make a peep or chime in with stuff I didn't know.
The best to hope for is that the entire country start reading and arguing (in a friendly and respectful way) about everything, thinking. That's our only hope. But never, ever let disagreement disrupt a relationship. Events will wake up those who don't want pay attention now -- or maybe not in cases of deep denial. Friendship.
And of course we could be wrong -- maybe it's all a bad dream and I'll wake up and see that it's 1955 again and I can go back to building my ham radio stuff. Anybody have some 6AU6s?
No, but i do have a ton of 12ax7's. I listen to the first heathkit stereo amp they put on the market every day. Still cooks, and I mean that..
Yes, CLZ09. Your girlfriend is quite right. Stop this peak oil thing this instant! It's so annoying.
Triage.
But triage is a dirty word even here. Triage is a dirty word to neocons because they falsely think it means admitting defeat. Triage is a dirty word to liberals because they want to desperately believe that if they push the right buttons, engineer the right social policy, or do something that shows they care that everything will turn out ok. Triage is even a dirty word to peak oil students because they want to believe the problem is "solvable" at some level, where solvable means a solution that has a happy ending for all involved. But have no fear, triage will become present in our thinking soon enough, even if we find a more colorful name to try to disguise it.
Planet earth is not going to support 7 billion "consumers" living like the US. Heck, it's not going to support another 2.4 billion (India and China). And after we mistakenly try to make it do this, we'll finally have to ask ourselves about triage.
Until then we'll continue to have conversations about the happy motoring utopia as reality keeps poking its nose into the tent more and more.
Not only may triage be inevitable, but it also might be a interesting planning tool. Imagine a significant reduction in the availability of gasoline. Imagine that there is not enough to go around. Imagine that you want to maintain essential services like provision of food and health care. Imagine this is all happening in the city which you live. I can imagine this all happening in a city in my county, Boulder. Lots of people would be pissed off and inconvenienced. But the city already has the seeds, excellent bike ways, decent public transportation and a city of young and not so young people who are already used to getting around without reliance on their auto. And just think, the existing road structure would essentially be able to be used by bikes with dedicated lanes for buses and a few electric cars.
Vision. Imagination. That's what we need. Why not imagine the future now. Just waiting is a recipe for disaster. People can't imagine existence without the auto, and, therefore, they just think gloom and doom.
Imagining and then implementing a different, lower energy model is better than waiting for that model to be imposed. It is kind of like the difference between voluntary simplicity and involuntary poverty. Or camping out versus being homeless.
Right now we seem to be stuck. We only seem to be able to imagine changes around the margin. We need to go way, way beyond "solutions" like better mpg standards and better mass transit.
But most cities and most people will just wait until the shit hits the fan.
The point isn't just changing from autos to bikes, but how do we feed 6.5 billion people without a previously cheap liquid with as much energy as oil? The price of food escalates to a point that excludes 100's of millions of people from surviving.
"We don't"? But at least we shouldn't be using what oil is left for personal travel when our agriculture is dependent upon it. My guess is that we will be focusing on how we feed the people within our borders with the chance of feeding 6.5 billion people and growing rather slim.
And, clearly ethanol will only exacerbate the food problem.
Anyway, the first step should be to conserve fuel for essentials like eating. Seems like a rather obvious tradeoff until you consider we are already trading the other way around --- food for fuel.
I see no reason why the dividing line should be made at "our borders" - you are holding on to a particular us-them fiction that will make less and less sense as our troubles unfold.
I am not making a dividing line but I think this is the way it is going to be. Unless, of course, the American people suddenly really care about the welfare of the rest of the world. China, to name just one country, isn't frantically going around the world making deals on energy with the rest of the world's welfare in mind. While one may argue that if the rest of the world sinks, we do too, that will not be how this plays out. Right now we are just playing chicken with global warming, for example. We won't move unless China does too.
Would a President Obama change this? I don't know how committed he is. Until recently, hew was driving around in a gas guzzler and a year ago he was pushing CTL. People who get religion during a nominating contest don't give me a great deal of confidence as to their willingness to follow through.
Maybe if access to oil continues to be market driven, we can hog much of the oil for awhile while the poorer countries sink further into oblivion. But then we are an empire in decline and might lash out when push comes to shove.
Look on iTunes for Senator Barack Obama's podcasts. In 2006 Obama was supporting a bill to promote higher fuel efficiency standards. He prefaced his podcast by talking about the impossibility of "drilling our way out of this problem" of relying on increasingly destabilizing oil imports. Okay, so he didn't actually mention PO, but he did say very reasonable things (from a PO-aware standpoint) on that podcast and he does seem to be smart enough to figure these things out. The question is whether he will actually do anything about it. And whether congress, unfolding events, and the US population will give him a chance to.
At any rate I don't think this is a case of getting religion during a nominating contest. Obama's flirtation with coal has something to do with his home state which has a lot of coal reserves.
But I think this discussion is missing the point so far, that the economic system is likely to come apart long before we run out of gas for our SUVs. Hasn't anyone noticed that the US is staring a serious recession in the face while gasoline is still freely available at the now-normalized price of $3/gallon? The price of gas will rise again, we wealthy folks will continue paying for it, and those who can't afford to live the American dream any longer due to rising prices will just drop out of the middle and lower classes and join the ranks of the homeless. Businesses will fail, the economy will sink, and we'll keep on buying those 5000 mile salads at the grocery store as long as we have money and they are available. Because even those of us who can see the situation for what it is really don't know what else to do.
The lesson of Nepal is that multiple systems fail simultaneously and there won't be a way to fix the problems because they will be too many and the solutions that we can think of will rely on cheap oil.
tstreet - I was actually thinking in the other direction, not concern globally, but locally. The nation state's dysfunction must be apparent to all but the most "patriotic." Who becomes the next president of the U.S. is as close to irrelevant as can be imagined. (The election politicking does make for an amusing spectator sport, though.)
So when you say "we" - I encourage you to think very very carefully about who you include in that. Because when it comes right down to it, there are (moneyed) segments of this society who will sell you down the river when things get tough. And as you float away, you'll be calling back to the shore - "hey, we're all Americans here." The answer you'll get will be silence.
"hey, we're all Americans here." The answer you'll get will be silence.
We in New Orleans are familiar with the response by GWB, FEMA and the Republican PTB. By contrast the volunteers and the Republic of France have been outstanding in their response and heart warming.
Best Hopes for those that give a damm,
Alan
Alan - I hadn't thought about this in the context of New Orleans, but after your comment it not only makes sense, it drives the point home.
I increasingly believe that the identification based on the nation-state we are a citizen of is no more than a granfalloon
this is a huge straw man. they want to live better but there isn't much evidence they even know how the average american lives. it's impossible for them to live like us simply because we won't be living like us when commodity prices are driven up. we're already downsizing our cars and our homes. we'll keep doing that are they raise their living standards.
Hey, I got that same letter from Capital One, just months after they bumped the interest rate five points without notifying me. And then they wondered why I wasn't interested in their wonderful card "upgrades."
I get credit card offers from Capital One at least once a month. sometimes twice.
I cut up my credit cards a few years ago (as part of my ELP) - and the credit card companies send me more mail than anything else.
Capital One is multiple mailers per week - amazing to me how badly they want me in debt.
what a waste of resources as I have NO intention of ever going back to a credit-based way of living...