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I saw something in today's Wall Street Journal that nearly made me choke on my coffee - a band of economists in a survey saying "It's supply, stupid" - economists mind you, who have always had creed about oil that says "It's speculation, stupid". Here is the survey:
I guess this means it's time to sell all your oil futures. They have been such a trustworthy contrary indicator. But we still have Yergin.
But since when do typical economists understand supply constraints?
they don't.
OMFG, no wonder people hate economists, they suck at their jobs.
Can it really be true that only 9% of economists put 'central bank policy' as the prime driver of prices?
Assuming that 'central bank policy' is a euphemism for 'printing like mad', I can assure you that the 15%-18% rates of growth seen in the macro money supply in the major economies of the world has a LOT to do with rising prices. If instead they meant that 'negative real interest rates' were to blame, then they are partially right there as negative real rates always drive investment dollars towards 'things'.
In my mind the causative factors for the recent surge in inflation, prioritized, are: Money supply growth --> negative real interest rates --> demand growth --> supply
I remain consistently amazed at how it is even possible for such a survey to go out without even a single direct mention of monetary growth rates as possible explanation for inflation.
/smacks head/
You think that's crazy-you've got Deflationists like Mish trying to spin the argument that 17% broad money supply growth is actually deflation.
Try this quote out from the latest Credit Bubble Bulletin from Doug Noland (emphasis mine):
Crude oil closed today above $126. The most vitally important commodity in the world has now posted a stunning year-to-date rise of better than 30% and has now doubled in the past year. It is worth noting that during the ten-year period 1996 through 2005 crude averaged about $29 a barrel. It’s now at four times this level - and running.
I don’t believe it is mere coincidence that crude has posted about a 30% y-t-d price surge at the same time as international reserve positions have expanded at about a 30% annualized rate - to a stunning $6.769 TN. Over the past 4 ½ years, official international reserves have ballooned an unprecedented $3.921 trillion, or 138%. During this period, crude prices surged almost 300%. Chinese reserves ballooned more than four-fold over this period to $1.68 Trillion; India’s reserve position tripled to $303bn; and Brazil enjoyed a four-fold increase to $189bn. After beginning 2004 at $73bn, Russian reserves have almost reached the half Trillion mark ($493bn). And in just the past year, OPEC reserves have inflated 42% to $490bn. To be sure, the world is awash like never before in excess “liquidity” for which to bid up prices of critical tradable resources.
http://www.prudentbear.com/index.php/CreditBubbleBulletinHome
Mish, whom I respect in some ways, is fixated, to the point of being blinkered, on the belief that we *must* face deflation.
The evidence to the contrary is pretty clear. A more than doubling of the central bank reserves in the past 4 years tells us that the global check kiting, circle jerk scheme being operated by the world's central banks is running at full tilt.
In my mind ANY analysis of prices has to include the growth in monetary aggregates and the best place to track those, at least tangentially, is in the reserve assets of central banks...
/I'm an inflationist
//Have a hard time believing that Bernanke won't continue to do exactly what he's said he will do and has been doing.
///3,800 failed currencies from history all died from inflation, not deflation...
////Our leadership is as morally weak as any that ever existed.
I just ordered some paint from a US company and the list price ran to just over $605 (including discounts) plus a 19% shipping charge (par avion Canada). The 19% I felt a bit on the extortionist side so I gave them a call and queried them on it. The upshot was that I got a return call shortly after to tell me that my total would be $599 including shipping. Brian, I don't know what you want to call this, maybe 'enlightened price decrease' would suit you or could we possibly use that old standby 'J'exige deflation!' for what occurred, anyway it's something that I think will be gathering vogue. (Only problem is who's going to be left with the bucks to benefit by that process?) I think any buck saved now will have a lot more purchasing power in the future. Save that pretty penny and you may end up feeling as bright as one:)
BTW if existing capital were to be destroyed at a rate of 18% while and the same time money supply were to grow at 17% what have you got? I think you got trouble with a capital T and that rhymes with Bubble here in Deflation-River City.
Try that call at the gas station or the grocery store-try it with your heat or electricity provider-try it with your insurance company or your property tax bill. They lowered the price of the paint because they are floundering-the next step is they are out of business when you call them. That isn't deflation-a depression can coexist with hyperinflation and destroy many businesses-ask the paint supplier if THEIR costs are magically "deflating".
No, don't think I will, the gas station is too far to walk and I think instead I will buy your house, soon for peanuts, and use it for fire wood to heat mine. Anyway there is a big credit derivitive thingy, the size of the Hindenberg, out there crashing away so I'm not going to worry about the current price of gas for my rusting Hutmobile. Soon all but the filthy rich will be riding shanks mare and who knows what the price of gas could be then? The few I have known have not been easy to part from their gelt unless it was in what they considered a good cause ,... namely themselves. Would you, at least, agree with that last little bit:)
You aren't seriously suggesting that with unemployment in excess of 9%, that inflation in the US is demand-driven, with the Fed fueling the demand-driven inflation by setting interest rates too low?
Are you?
Because, not to put too fine a point on it, that would be silly. Its almost as silly as people who think that a Reserve Bank directly decides on how much money is created in a modern monetary production economy.
What you said is complete gobbledegook. Unemployment has nothing to do with money supply.
It's really simple math. If you inflate the money supply by 100%, you're going to have prices increase by about 100%. If you inflate the money supply by 1000%, prices will increase by 1000%. It wont be exactly 1000%, for a variety of reasons, but the money supply is the primary factor.
Huh? Oil suppliers have this mantra of late that the speculators are to blame - I'm not aware of economists taking that line (I might be wrong, but I've been generally watching for economists talking about what the oil companies and opec etc are spouting).
From the little I have garnered from a couple of blogs and lengthy discussions with my economics student brother, standard economic theory discounts speculators as a cause without increasing storage (ie: the speculators would have to drive up price by buying actual gloopy oil, rather than futures contracts)