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AlanfromBigEasy on May 18, 2008 - 10:21am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Today ?

Walk more, bicycle more, travel less, relocate closer to work and in walkable communities.

A "free market" will not have prolonged shortages. 5 digit gas prices ($22.78/9 per gallon) perhaps, but not shortages.

Alan

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westexas on May 18, 2008 - 10:24am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I'm amazed at the traffic in Italy at about $9 per gallon. Smaller, more efficient vehicles, and lots of scooters, but very heavy traffic nevertheless.

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NeverLNG on May 18, 2008 - 11:11am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Of course there is traffic. People just love to GO! and without oil, they walk!

I remember a couple of years in Brazil in the early 60's, before anyone had cars. Life was good except for the very poor (who probably weren't that much worse off than the very poor today in the USA). The streets were filled with people -- walking.

Nostalgic, I know, but I could get used to a city that didn't have petroleum-fueled vehicular traffic. To be sure, people's ranges would be restricted, but would that be such a bad thing?

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CrystalRadio on May 18, 2008 - 3:19pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Hey N, I've been wishing decades for people to be able to stop saying "golly what a small world" Everywhere you go not only 'there you are' but also there is a effing MacDonalds or Wallmart and some god awful paunchy camera toting tourist looking at one like out of a mirror.

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roy on May 18, 2008 - 12:36pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Interesting questions are average trip length and km per day. I speculate it's much less than typical US patterns.

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BrianT on May 18, 2008 - 1:25pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

My guess would be even US patterns aren't at all typical-i.e. the yearly miles driven per vehicle cover a broad range. Urban USA auto owners IMO will be able to tolerate extremely high gasoline prices-as development densifies, more auto users can tolerate even higher prices.

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WNC Observer on May 18, 2008 - 6:17pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I started walking to work this past week. 1.7 miles each way, and I even lived to tell about it! ;-)

I'm in the process of getting an article about walking to work written for TOD:Local, I hope to get it done in the next few weeks if I can find the time.

One of the great things about walking to work is that I am now insulated from motor fuel price increases. This applies equally for those that bicycle.

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econguy on May 18, 2008 - 6:53pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Yes, one of the biggest problems is not the automobile necessarily, but automobile dependency. If you don't need a car -- able to walk to work and the supermarket -- then you can look at gas prices and decide IF you want to use the car or not. Thus, high gas prices are completely avoidable. Cancel the tour of Civil War battlefields and spend the weekend gardening and enjoying a barbecue with friends instead. Big deal.

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Prof. Goose on May 18, 2008 - 7:43pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Yes, check out the invite for TOD:Local over in the sidebar, folks...you'll see what we're looking for.

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