And dont' forget President Ronald Reagan envisioning "a future without limits," and the public and media lapped it up, and they laughed at President Jimmy Carter who warned all of us about the "catastrophe" of the energy crisis ahead. And then there are those who preached don't worry, there's lots of solar energy, we just need to make a switch... but they forgot to consider that we need liquid fuels.

I think history will not treat kindly that generation of politicians, Reagan, Thatcher et al that pandered to the grossest elements of human nature to get elected and allowed people to believe that there is no limit to how rich we can all get, and no limit to what the planet can supply us with, a mindset that is still very much with us.

Well, I saw a "documentary" called "In the Face of Evil" about Reagan which seemed to me to be the most shameless propaganda I've ever seen though it is much much less skillfully done than "Potemkin". Yet, it was on TV without any comment about its many false claims. You could see though that Jeane Kirkpatrick knew she was lying in her bits. It seems to me that history is going to have a lot of work to do to get past those who worship Reagan as an idol.

Chris

cj- the energy crisis ended while reagan was in office. oil dropped like a rock.

there is lots of solar and we can use it. we do need liquid fuels but they aren't going away tomorrow. we still have half our oil left. we can use solar to power our cars...

Of course the energy crisis did not end, it just became a non-issue, that is an important issue that is not on the public agenda.

"""We can use solar to power our cars.""" Hey John, what have you been smoking??????.

Who is going to buy a solar powered car he/she is out of work, the $35,000 SUV is worthless for a trade-in, inflation is rampant, and they can't make the house payments.