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IMO Puplava and Co. are criminally dismissive of AGW, Polution in general, the pain that the "free market" inflicts on the lower income 90% of the population.
Their solution is drill everywhere and burn more coal.
Of course they have a pretty huge inve$tment in BAU which is why I believe that the concept of protecting "store of wealth" is what garantees that we go screaming up to the edge of the cliff.
OTOH, they are money managers and offer investment advice-you can logically only compare them to their competitors, a majority of which are bunco artists and grifters.
Ultimately I think the drill/mine more energy for the sake of keeping modern man running is going to win over any environmental concerns. Money and power really do make the world go round - and we will unfortunately be dragged kicking and screaming into a low carbon age.....but not one where carbon rationing has happened because of green concerns.
There is talk all over the world (especially here in the UK) of revisiting all those previously uneconomical coal seams.
Also carbon sequsetration will remain the echelon of the ever hopefull greens and big corps mouthing off about new green technology to seem like they are doing something (whilst actually doing virtually nothing.)
I can't remember specific figures but BP's "green" investment is a drop in the ocean compared to their total profit. Disgusting? Yes but then the shareholders and director always come first.
Furthermore the NOC's don't give amonkeys about being green.
Marco.
True, but economic descent will make such moves difficult, as will energy descent (eg South Africa) and possibly Climate Change too (eg. Australia). These overlapping crises will make doing anything extremely difficult. Especially for the UK which would be facing serious problems even without the aforementioned crises.
Governments are going to be in a funk, bombarded from all sides and trying to appease a very angry population (especially the poverty stricken former middle-class). In the UK the impact has hardly been felt and Gordon Brown's popularity is already at lows not seen since the 1940's.
I think there is a general underestimate of just how bad things are going to get (no I don't mean Mad Max bad) and that what we have today and what we are capable of doing today will somehow still be the same in the future. It won't, it will be gone. Economics is the Command and Control system for our civilisation, its destruction via the economic collapse will leave us as helpless as an army without communications.
Yes, things will be attempted, there will be successes and of course enormous failures, but overall it will all be lost in the overarching chaos.
"Their solution is drill everywhere and burn more coal."
As oil detoxification takes hold, the junkies will not be rational. I suspect it will get weirder and weirder with every uptick in price. The longer I study the subject and the response of our society to the issue, the bigger doomer I become.
Amen to that. Character (or lack thereof) determines destiny.