Bob - thanks very much for this contribution. For further information, Bob has been involved in a discussion with BERR about energy prices and this article hit my mail box at midnight.

Two things that strike me. First the uniformity of fuel prices in the top chart. The escalating rise that is taking place and will continue (unless we have massive demand destruction through price or conservation) will be unique in our recent history - I guess thats what you might call an Electric Shock.

Second, the lower chart is a fascinating portrayal of how our living standards have improved. But this is not just through the magic of economic growth - the magic is worked by abundant supply of high eroei energy sources. How do we know we are at a turning point? Well its obviously too early to say from the lower chart. But anyone with time to read the 2,786,934,907 words on TOD - will learn that we know pretty well for sure that we are at a turning point.

Add growing population to the mix and the return trajectory will not mirror the entry trajectory.

Demand can be destroyed in a proactive and virtuous way via conservation. Being able to do exactly what we do now but using a lot less energy. Energy efficiency is King and I wholeheartedly support your effort here Bob and any more support that TOD can offer - the door is open.

The graphs show clearly what we would expect from economic demand theory - increased demand as energy prices fall, plus gearing and economic growth from the more efficient use of FF.

As we move to an era of increasing energy costs the reverse will be true, unless we can find an alternative which will continue to produce adequate amounts of energy requiring a falling percentage of income year after year indefinitely.

Sadly, once started on the route of FF use we can't retrace our steps (in the UK at least) - it looks like we will simply have to live with less energy and it will likely cost a much larger percentage of our income in the short term.

IMO, since in the UK climate we must have a certain amount of energy for heating/cooking, in order to be affordable by all this minimum amount will have to be rationed at some stage. The good news is that the Government can, and is, planning for this (though not overtly since that might panic the public unnecessarily). The long and tortuous path to ID cards for all UK citizens is well under way and is the first critical step to rationing.

http://www.ips.gov.uk/identity/index.asp

FWIW, squinting at the graphs and guessing from heating oil prices it looks to me like oil has to go to about $200/barrel to be the same price in 'earnings deflated' prices as it was at the end of the 70s early 80s, i.e. an increase of about 50% over today's prices. i wonder if that is true for other countries?

On the back of cheap energy we have had cheap food allowing for more disposable wealth to buy all that essential "stuff" that we send to the landfill shortly afterwards. It seems obvious to me that this will change and no doubt give rise to calls for affordability of energy, but if it was affordable at over 6% in the mid-1960s then it is affordable at less than 6% today.

ID cards can be used for all sorts of things, thanks to Gordon Clown and Tony Liar (remember he wanted 90 days) we now face 42 day incarceration without charge, compulsory ID cards and a DNA database for all. Remember, Walter Wolfgang was arrested under terrorism legislation merely for heckling Jack Straw. Can you see a pattern emerging here? Are we going to a situation where people are chipped at birth and our every move tracked and traced?


Hey, where did you get my photo from???

Demand can be destroyed in a proactive and virtuous way via conservation. Being able to do exactly what we do now but using a lot less energy. Energy efficiency is King

Why is it necessary to be able to do exactly what we do now? We need to create an economic infrastructure that will work within the constraints of our finite world. Starting off with a preconceived notion of the level of economic services to which we are entitled does not strike me as an intelligent way to face the coming crisis. If we have truly lived beyond our means and expanded the earth's population beyond what can be supported at OECD standards of living then we have no choice but tighten our belts and pay the price for our past extravagance. I am in favor of making that price as small as possible for humanity as a whole, but having everyone striving to hang on to exactly what they have now is likely to maximize that price rather than minimize it.

Hi Bob,

Very informative post. I remember back in the 60s when there were claims that electricity would be "too cheap to meter" with the advent of nuclear! Of course even back then nobody was proposing to actually supply it for free.

I found this;
"It is not too much to expect that our children will enjoy in their homes electrical energy too cheap to meter, will know of great periodic regional famines in the world only as matters of history, will travel effortlessly over the seas and under them and through the air with a minimum of danger and at great speeds, and will experience a lifespan far longer than ours as disease yields and man comes to understand what causes him to age."

Lewis L. Strauss
Speech to the National Association of Science Writers, New York City September 16th, 1954.

So, looks like we will soon be at 0 out of 4.

Tony,
How about these:

The day must come when electricity will be for everyone, as the waters of the rivers and the wind of heaven. It should not merely be supplied, but lavished, that men may use it at their will, as the air they breathe. In towns it will flow as the very blood of society. Every home will tap abundant power, heat and light like drawing water from a spring.
Émile Zola, ‘Travail’, 1901

and

Communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country. Otherwise the country will remain a small-peasant country...
V.I.Lenin, 1920

BobE

Very nice quotes;

I always favour having somthing lavished on me:-)

Strange that Lenin could describe Russia as small.