One more summer of driving fun?

Since the week ending 5/9, Gulf Coast crude inventories have dropped at the rate of about 750,000 bpd, down a total of about 22.5 mb. We are not quite to the all time low we have seen in the Gulf Coast in the early summer, but we are very close, and the trend is not our friend in this case.

I believe that we are primarily seeing a manifestation of what the most recent EIA data show--an annualized decline rate of -32%/year in the combined net oil exports from Venezuela and Mexico to the US.

Bush will face an acute dilemma. With the general election coming, he will be under tremendous pressure to release oil from the SPR. If we were not facing a long term structural problem with net oil exports, releasing oil from the SPR might actually make sense. However, I think that we are looking at a long term, and accelerating, decline in net oil exports. So, the probable upcoming release of oil from the SPR will be used to provide us with one more "Summer of Driving Fun," using oil from emergency reserves.

The total import picture seems murky to me. What's the total net import loss going to be for the year? What about gas and diesel imports - how are they changing in relation to crude oil imports?

"...And she'll have fun, fun, fun til her daddy takes the T-bird away."

I'm not sure how long it will take to get enough new heavy-oil capable refineries online, but when that happens, there should be some narrowing of the price spread between light & heavy oil. That might cause pump prices to moderate a bit. If that coincides with the release from the SPR, it might look like Bush actually accomplished something.

We call that "Indian Summer" in the Northeast (i.e. a last warm spell before winter sets in).

The mass exodus has begun.

20,000 from my little town alone.

This is finals week and every day the roads get more and more packed with travelers, students going home, families starting vacations.

I ask folks where they are headed as they pass through my shop and have heard many cross-country trips planned.

I counted 16 uhauls in my 1/2 mile bikeride to work this morn.

Over the last week many locals talked about how they are "touring" the good ol USA by car this year instead of flying anywhere.

IMHO the super-straw suck down of gas has only just begun.

Pop quiz. You have a family of four, and a windfall $1800 check from the federal government suddenly appears in your mailbox.

What will you do? What will you do?

A. Get in the car and drive to Wal-Mart to buy a new rider mower.
B. Get in the car and drive somewhere for a family vacation
C. Pay off some credit card debt.
D. Pay your April mortgage bill.

ya ever heard of saving?
or investing in alternatives?-)

what do I do?

Likely at that point you would be like Germany and need to burn them for heat ;-)

Your quiz seems to assume I have no money in the bank. If I have a modest $5000 to $10,000 in savings, it doesn't seem likely that the economic stimulus check would change much of anything. If you have some savings and needed a new mower, or wanted to take a vacation, or had to pay the mortgage, you would do it without waiting for a check in the mail.

Basically, savings implies that you don't have any major unfulfilled needs that would lead you to immediately spend your new windfall. Unless you are the type of person that feels they have to spend every new dollar they get, but if you were that type you wouldn't have $5000 in the bank.

I know what some will say: "The average American consumer is in hock up to their eyeballs, living paycheck to paycheck, taking out loans on the equity they have in their houses". There are certainly plenty of those people. But I think there is a huge chunk of the populace that is not yet in dire financial shape at all. Really, how many of the people you actually know are having trouble paying their monthly bills? I daresay well less than half of them when you think about it. Oil prices are causing pain, but for most people it is not yet critical.

Up to 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

Really, how many of the people you actually know are having trouble paying their monthly bills?

I don't know. It's not the kind of thing you tell people, even family, unless you are in dire straits indeed.

I know some people who admit they waiting for their stimulus rebate because they desperately need it, but most don't talk about it. It's just not the kind of thing you talk about.

Let's remember that it only took 30% unemployment in the Great Depression to shake the foundations of the US, to bring fascists to ppower in Germany and Japan, to make millions worship Stalin as the only hope. Every time one man goes under, he takes his family with him, and he tugs on many others who sell him things.

Just a minor point, the great depression didn't have much impact on the Soviet Union, and Japan was able to recover quite quickly in the early 30s because of its invasions and subsequent "access" to raw materials.

Hmm, scratch the Japan comment, I just realized my comment pretty much supported what you were saying. :)

Wasn't there massive starvation in the Volga region in the 30's?

Perhaps, but it didn't have anything to do with the Great Depression.

No.

In the twenties there was mass starvation due to the Russian Civil War and collectivisation of the peasantry. This occured in the twenties.

Dr. Zhivago is a good starting point (the film - not the book. The book is dreary, and Lean's film has probably the most beautiful woman that ever existed on planet earth as Lara)

Killing and eating children was a reasonable method of getting by in the years 1921 - 1924.

By the 30's, things had settled down to production targets, harvests, tractor outputs, Eisentsein, Prokohviev, Shostakovitch, Officer culls etc.

Sorry about that. What I meant is that Stalin became more popular among millions in the capitalist states because the USSR was not a part of the Depression and its propaganda convinced many that things were going well there.

The World Series of Poker has a record turn-out this year. No sign whatsoever of high gas prices or a recession in the poker world.

Go Moe...hope to see you at the final table!

Thanks Peak. Came close at the $5k event. Bluff ran into trip jacks.

Moe;
If you go check out the final tables (ESPN) after July 7th, I'll be one of the Camera Operators there. Ask for Bob at one of the breaks (They also call me 'Genius'.. the way they call bald guys 'curly') and say hello! So far, I've only ever met one TODer face to face.

Poker might be paying for my Solar Hot water Install this summer. Is that Ironic, Convenient, Hypocritical or Smart?

Bob Fiske

I think refineries can't afford as much oil in storage with oil prices this high. They just can't afford to tie up that much cash flow. So, I think inventories are going to stay near that bottom boundary of the five year average, and prices have been stabilized over the past couple of weeks by using up inventory.

But 95% of the decline in US crude oil inventories in the past 30 days has occurred on the Gulf Coast.

The Gulf Coast thing made sense in terms of the strike against Exxon in Nigeria, but we should be past that now. I know about the VenMex declines, but you'd think refinery purchasing agents would too and would have ordered up the Mideast stuff months ago.

I suppose this could be the result of Chavez cutting off sales to Exxon, but in that case, the much vaunted "Oil is a fungible commodity" claim is looking pretty darn lame.

How do you see oil supply, demand and price over the next 12 months?
I was guessing that demand could take a hit with recession and oil prices go soft over this short term.

So you think it's not a deliberate shrinking of inventory? You think they just can't get inventory?

You could be right. The next few weeks should clarify things. China has been buying more diesel and gasoline. That ought to mean fewer imports to the U.S., which ought to take down our product inventories. That's when we find out for sure (through the price) what everyone's thinking.

The Persian Gulf has at least partially offset the decline in exports from VenMex, but VenMex decline is probably accelerating, especially from Mexico, and I think that it has been tough for Gulf Coast refiners to find replacement cargoes, especially because of the greater distances involved in getting oil from alternative sources. Also, we have to bid the price up enough to take oil away from its traditional destinations.

i havent seen anything on here, but rueters said that the mms said that bp said that thunderhorse was ready to start production(saturday).

http://uk.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUKN1038296720080610

Read that story carefully. They are saying "early production" will start.

BP itself merely repeated that they expect production to begin before the end of 2008. Peak production, whenever it gets reached, will be 250,000 barrels per day.

There's been a tremendous blitz of stories in the msm about new production coming online, new promises of production, new projections of falling demand, new meetings, etc. It's been going on all week, and it's a deliberate propaganda response to the sharp rise in prices last Friday.

Essentially, they're trying to keep speculators and investors out of the oil market to keep prices as stable as possible in the face of huge inventory draws.

But big talk virtually always is a bluff.

If what they were saying was true, they wouldn't need to do so much frantic propaganda. We would see increases in inventory, and the price would fall. They are doing everything they possibly can to keep the market in doubt.

That is a tell, elwoodelmore.

"it's a deliberate propaganda response"

i took it that bp simply informed the mms that they were planning to start "early" production on saturday as required by terms of the lease. i dont see that as a propaganda play, maybe it is. presumably, thunderhorse will start sometime.

I tend to think that the decline on the Gulf Coast is related to running down inventories in the hope that prices will moderate going forward. Considering that some 50% of US commercial crude stocks are held there, it's the obvious starting point for an inventory-shedding scenario.

My guess would be that if Gulf Coast inventories decline to 138-140 million barrels then there would be a warning sign beginning to flash, and that we would see the following knock-ons: reduction of refinery runs leading to refined product inventory declines. and a reduction in flows from the Gulf Coast into the Mid-West, leading to crude inventory declines there.

Personally, I think there's a monster game of chicken being played out here, which is going to unravel very spectacularly if a hurricane pops up in the Gulf of Mexico.

Yes, but the Gulf Coast, with 50% of crude oil stocks has seen 95% of the crude inventory decline.

I am connecting four dots:

(1) Venezuela has shown a long term net export decline, while Mexico is on the express train to zero--as in nada, none, zero net oil exports from our third biggest source of imported oil;

(2) In 10/07, VenMex accounted for 20% of US total petroleum imports;

(3) The most recent VenMex data show an annualized decline rate of -32%/year in net exports to the US (falling by half every 2.2 years at that rate);

(4) US Gulf Coast crude oil inventories, in the past 30 days, are falling at the rate of 750,000 bpd.

Louisiana sweet's just under $140. But they're still losing to Tapis.

This makes me think that we are about to finally tap the Ghawar-sized field sitting under Detroit. I don't know why we had to be dragged kicking and screaming, but we seem to like it that way. Downthread, I put up some numbers for per capita demand. If we lowered to level of Sweden or Japan, it would approximately equal the flow of Ghawar.

I apologize for being dense and not being able to read between the lines and figure out what you mean, but what are you referring to when you say "Ghawar-sized field sitting under Detroit?"

I mean doubling the mpg of the cars we make.

I'm not sure if it's your coinage or something that's travelled around PO blogs (if so, however, I'm surprised I missed it): but another Ghawar sitting under Detroit is a powerful phrase. It should be part of our public discourse, indeed of the presidential campaign.

Perhaps from a US perspective, "another Texas sitting under Detroit" might be even better yet? [with the snarky comment "Yes, and let it stay there"]

Back in the '80's they closed a salt mine under Detroit and were converting it to hazardeous waste storage. Before they did that, I got to take a tour of the salt mine. It was facinating. Huge tunnels, salt walls covered with soot from the vehicles they took down piece by piece and assembled down there.

Wouldn't that just be bizarre if the salt mine was in a salt dome and there really was oil underneath?

There is a bit of oil in Michigan. IIRC mostly in a South West to Northeast trend with the "Northeast" part North of Detroit.

Another Ghawar sitting under Detroit
Now how many Americans do you think have a clue what that means? I'd venture it is under 1%! And then you'd have to go into a long explanation, that greater efficiency/conservation is similar to finding oil. I don't think you can do that in a thirty second sound bite. And the "wish upon a star" generation probably won't get the concept about depletion of nonrenewable resources. If we do get a big improvement in milage, it will because people will be desperate because they can't afford fuel. And those that don't get it, will be victims of Darwinian evolution.

It's been said that Conservation is the biggest oil field we will ever find in the future. But, if a country is nearly 70% dependent on imported oil and 20% of that has gone to a 32% decline rate - well, just do the math for the other 80% of imports declining at the global average of say around 3%, and you get a decline rate of available oil at about 6%. That means we have to change our way of life at the rate of 6% per year just to keep up with the declining net exports, which is accelerating. With our elected voices still dealing with the problem by holding speculation hearings and taxing the problem away, we're a long way from getting ahead of the curve.

This seems weird as just last week I "thought" that I had read that year-to-date export declines from Mexico were running around -17% which is about half what you currently site. And of course, part of the stuff... 300,000 bpd... from Venezuela is headed to China where they need the oil to continue to make crap for us to buy.

Byron

The 2007 EIA net export data showed large annual net export declines for Venezuela, 7%/year range, and for Mexico, 16%/year range.

The EIA tracks oil imports by country origin to the US on a monthly basis, but of course we don't know total net oil exports to all consumers on a monthly basis. In any case, from 10/07 to 3/08 (last month available), combined petroleum exports from Venezuela and Mexico to the US dropped by 414,000 bpd, an annualized rate of -32%/year.

My premise is that this is causing Gulf Coast refiners to scramble like crazy to find replacement cargoes from exporters much farther away than VenMex, at a time when overall net oil exports are declining, with Europe facing their own Problems with Proximal Petroleum Producers--Norway & Russia.

a few hundred barrels per day would make a difference, assuming that it won't get sucked up by depletion. You can explain most of the oil picture by looking at the 20 top countries sorted by change in 2007.


Source: BP for 2006-7, IEA for 2008, Orange=no data, used 2007 production, Green = increasing, Pink = decreasing
Azerbaijan should increase to from 868k to 1.3m per day by 2009 once the ACG ramps up and the BTC pipeline is running at full capacity.

I tend to think that the decline on the Gulf Coast is related to running down inventories in the hope that prices will moderate going forward.

But continually decreasing inventories tend to drive the price up further. I really can't see the logic in such a deliberate "game of chicken".

Even in this bizarre media world it's hard to imagine the headline "Oil price plummets on news US crude stocks collapsing."

The flip side of coasting on inventories is that it reduces demand pressures in the market and, hopefully, moderates the price down the line. I'm not saying that it's going to be successful, but the alternative is to "panic" buy crude in the markets, thereby driving the price up further - and I suspect that US refiners are a tad cannier than that; and, crucially, they have much greater visibility regarding their forward crude supplies than we do, and they're more than capable of juggling inventory in such a way as to minimise their input costs as much as possible in the hope that time will work in their favour, as current price levels work to kill off demand elsewhere.

It's worth noting that whilst the crude inventory has declined, refined product stocks are either holding steady ( ie gasoline, jet fuel ) or building ( distillates, propane ), so the situation remains ambiguous.

Is that really ambiguous? Surely it's exactly what would be expected unless either stocks get so low that MOL is breached or refiners intentionally decide to under supply end product.

Well, considering that the US is nowhere near its MOL for crude, and that end product stocks are currently adequate, there's quite a lot of room for the ambiguity of the situation - ie net export hurricane hitting the Gulf Coast vs canny inventory management in an uncomfortable price environment - to play out. The "X" factor is the seasonal hurricane supply disruption risk.

Given the price environment that we're currently in, I would expect refiners to be buying as little crude as they can possibly get away with.

Assuming 270 mb for the US, we have about two days of crude oil supply in excess of MOL nationwide.

Regarding the Gulf Coast, as we previously discussed, it depends on how we want to guess at the MOL. We can say that are only about five million barrels above the lowest summertime inventory we have seen in recent years--or less than one day's supply above recent summertime inventory lows.

do refiners delay shipments to delay settlement into q3 ? independent refiner's bottom line is hurting somewhat, this might make the q2 numbers look a little better.

. . . so the situation remains ambiguous.

Of course, refiners have been keeping their refinery utilization up by drawing down their crude oil inventories, which they can continue to do until they hit their summertime MOL, in much the same way that you can drive your car at 80 mph--until you run out of gas.

My best guess is that, in extremis, they can probably sustain this crude draw for a good 7-8 weeks ( taking crude inventories down to 265-270 ) and could then coast on product inventories with reduced runs for a further 4+ weeks if they had to. It would mean an extremely low inventory level heading into winter, but if the price of crude is down to 95-105 by September, then that's an acceptable outcome.

Not a comfy prospect to be sure, and it only takes one hurricane to wreck everything.

These guys tend to vote Republican. And if they can moderate prices just before the election, they figure they are doing their part. We've seen it before. This time I think the headwind is so severe that the gesture will be futile.

But continually decreasing inventories tend to drive the price up further. I really can't see the logic in such a deliberate "game of chicken".
But from the standpoint of an individual refiner, who thinks he is too small to effect the overall market, it might make sense. This presuposes he thinks there is at least a fifty percent chance of price moderation.

USA has been exporting diesel of late particularly to South America.

Q1 2006 133 k b/d

Q2 2007 203k b/d

Q3 2008 365k b/d

So as priuces in the USA rise so do the exports of distillate no doubt due to higher demand abroad and the cheaper dollar.

At the oil prices hearing the other day, one the the panelist, Mrs Jaffe I think, was suggesting a release from the SPR. For a different reason however, which was to effect the price of oil. I suppose Bush could use this reason if it becomes necessary because of the Gulf situation to hide the fact of low inventories.

I know that I am taking a vacation that is far away this summer (6 1/2 hour drive) because I know that travel expenses will only increase into the foreseeable future.