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Grey Horse on June 17, 2008 - 7:27pm Permalink | Subthread | Comments top

Does anyone else think this was just another gimmicky straw man bill set up by the Democrats to be knocked down for political purposes? I actually took advantage of the tax credit on solar, without it, I would have never bought the system, it never delivered the savings promised nor did it work as advertised.

IBD says the USA has about 118 Billion barrels of untapped oil -- Why not just save the money and drill, refine and build nuclear power plants. If your religion is CO2 your saviour is nuclear -- If not, you be smoking something. As far as the global warming hoax is concerned, it's been thoroughly debunked on every point by real science.

If the sun doesn't wake up soon, been quiet since October 2005, why no one knows -- But we will all be finding out, cold is really bad, warm is good. Crop failures are following the quiet sun. Look at a weather map, see the cold fronts, they just keep coming. It's worse in the southern hemisphere.

Price too high, supply too low. Economics even a Democrat should be able to understand.

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JonFreise on June 17, 2008 - 9:22pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The purpose of The Oil Drum is to study the peaking of oil production which is what is limiting supply.

I recommend reading "Hubbert's Peak" by Kenneth S. Deffeyes. He shows the US conventional oil supply as hitting a maximum of 220 bbl and has a complete explanation of the math behind that prediction. As we are far past the half way point in oil production in the US, your estimate of 118 left to produce is far too high.

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Robert Marston on June 17, 2008 - 10:17pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Absolutely. In all honesty the oil math on the Republican side is very fuzzy and overly optimistic. It's full of the same nonsense that continues to keep people in the dark on the issue of peak oil. Not that democrats are outspoken about the issue. But at least democrats are willing to take an honest shot at alternatives.

In any case, I've got to agree with RR above. The US energy policy is dysfunctional -- prey to party politicking and special interests. This most recent round, I'm certain, is something you can thank the oil industry for.

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jokuhl on June 18, 2008 - 1:06am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Your renewables didn't work? Funny, a lot of other folks have been really happy with theirs. You didn't get yours installed by those same Real Scientists who debunked Global Warming, did you? That might be a clue to the problem..

"Price too high, supply too low."
You think supply is too low now, just wait a few years! Priceless..

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ramilehti on June 18, 2008 - 5:44am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Look here folks.

This is what a Troll looks like.

From Wiktionary:

Troll
;A person who posts to a newsgroup, bulletin board, etc., in a way intended to anger other posters and to cause drama, or otherwise disrupt the group's intended purpose.

This post has been carefully crafted to invoke an emotional response.
Or he is really being sarcastic.(doubtful)

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