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This is the greatest single post in the history of the blogosphere (testing whether the feature works)
It was -1, but I upped it to zero. Pity it doesn't record both.
Neg for complaining about your rating.
A reference was made to the negative numbers being red in color. I'm red/green colorblind and cannot tell the difference in the color of the numbers. I have no idea which are positive and which are negative.
That's what the - sign is for, you'll notice it on the negatively-rated comments.
I can barely see those, it all looks yellow. Blue and red would be really nice to make it blue and yellow for me.
P.S. I have this pretty bad. All stoplights look yellow to me, I can only see the indication of the light by its position.
I am not red-green colourblind, but have javascript turned off; all the numbers are green, but the negative ones have a minus sign in front of them.
Pump me up
I don't think I want to search for and study negatively rated comments.
It would be better yet if double plus (++) signs were placed in front of ratings greater than 10 (>>10) and (+++) fro greater than 100. Then I can automatically search (at least in Firefox) for these.
What about advertising for ratings or running polls? Is it permissible to ask people to pump your rating up by doing the following?
Example:
Comment not relevant to the readership, ranked down.
Aye, this feature helps to track what people generally think around here about various issues. It's much easier to agree or disagree with a post by clicking an arrow than writing a reply when you don't really have anything to add.
Edit:
Um, not that anyone would wote anything down just because there isn't an agreement. It would have more to do with your opinion about the writer not knowing what the hell he/she/it is writing about ;-)
Hmm...
"Do not rate a comment down just because you disagree with the opinion being expressed."
So much for that idea...
Hence my idea to remove the negative voting altogether. Will remove the opportunity for voting based on opinion, but will still give you an idea which posts are most interesting.
I like having both. The idea is not just to point out good posts (it's worked very well in today's DrumBeat, BTW, highlighting Darwinian's post about Hirsch). It's also to hide spam and such.
In this case there should be separate negative and positive votes. I may post extremely interesting, but controversal opinion and 10 people may appreciate it and vote "for", 11 people will disagree with me and vote "nah", and my opinion will be labeled as spam, because it will have a negative rating of -1. You can't force people to vote irrespective of their opinion coinciding with the post, or just assume they will.
The net result is that 1000 people coming later on the thread will probably ignore my opinion altogether. On the other hand if I see +10 and -11 on some post I will be interested to read it because I'd see it has provoked some interesting reaction among people.
[Edit] In addition to that, opinion-based negative votes will move my comment downthread, which will make it even harder for people to notice. Maybe sorting upthread should be based only on the positive votes.
Granted this isn't exactly a poll but I think this link expresses my opinion about rating other people's comments. http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/343285
If you have something to say, say it.
First, I apologize for responding here so that my comment is seen upthread. I have several issues with the new feature:
1) The rating font is too large and kind of intrusive. The ratings should not prevent people from posting, so I would prefer something more discrete
2) It will be more informative to have the negative and positive ratings separately. The Daily Kos format is a good example.
3) If there is no separation between negative and positive ratings, than I'd prefer the negative rating button to be removed all together. We will avoid a number of issues of psychological and interpersonal nature
Finally some food for thought: in all cases people will give second thoughts now before posting... not good if we are going to have free and relaxed discussions. Many people will be afraid to defend minority views just because they could lose rating and/or credibility. Also there is a number of personal and/or group spats around this forum, and I can't help but think the new feature will just encourage them. Overall I'm undecided if this feature is going to be more useful than causing a harm or vice versa.