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Hi Occitan,
Just think a minute, in 1908 what was the per capita electricity production capacity in US?, I would guess only a fraction of the 11,000 kwh today. Now that allows a lot of todays electricity to be diverted for trams, electric cars etc. Most developed countries do quiet well with annual 4,000 to 8,000 kwh/ per capita.
In the US 15 million new vehicles are sold per year and 50% of VMT is done by vehicles aged 6 years or less. By 2010 there may be less than 1million hybrids sold in US, but many other vehicles having much higher fuel economy than existing new cars(25-27mpg) could be sold, and if gasoline stays above $4 a gallon will be sold. SO in 6 years we could have 50% of VMT by vehicles perhaps having 50% or possibly having 100% better fuel economy than todays new vehicles. your assumption that it would take 100 years to replace entire vehicle fleet with hybrids is assuming that the maximum production of hybrids will never exceed 7% of market. If think even GM completely changes it's production in less than 20years( look at how quickly SUVs and light trucks went from 10% of fleet to >50%). At the rate of new SUVs sales could see SUV and light trucks back to 10% of new fleet in a few years. Since this segment has 22mpg average fuel use, if these were replaced by 44 mpg vehicles, very substantial reductions in gasoline use would be possible.
If you look at traffic on weekends, its obvious that a lot of VMT are not essential for work or for the productive part of the economy, but are for shopping, entertainment,recreation. If prices continue to rise to say $8 a gallon( European prices) or even higher, 2 car families will use the more fuel efficient vehicle more often, a even cut back on some driving.We will probably see an increase in mass-transit use.
I like the idea of mass-transit but its just not going to happen very quickly because of the very high capital costs, the way cities have been built since 1945 and great increases in taxes needed. Much easier to convince US (and Australian) public to buy new plug-in hybrids and hybrids and save a bundle on gasoline, keep the suburbia dream, add a little insulation to homes, replace incandescent bulbs with more efficient lights and a few other token conservation measures .
Car sales are dropping rapidly not just SUV your making a big assumption that people will be able to buy cars at the rate they did in the past.
Given that we will be at least in a prolonged recession.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/19/business/19charts.html?partner=rssnyt&...
Probably a depression. In any case fleet replacement in this never ending recession will take longer than 10 years. Next of course the value of the older gas guzzler will drop rapidly in general the car owner would have to bring a lot of money to the table to pay off his old car loan and get the new one. And of course he has to remain credit worthy to even get the loan.
Yet again people that see a bright future focus on one or two things and ignore the entire problem.
Start first with understanding that long term loans for cars and homes etc was based on fiat currencies and the ability to inflate away part of the debt version to prevent default. This was driven by cheap oil and commodities so the government could inflate without causing commodity price inflation. Without cheap oil/commodities if the inflate it just raises the prices of critically needed items such as food so purchasing power drops.
The beast cannot be saved.
memmel,
Thats an interesting graph because in the 1978-85 period when car sales($ value or number?) declined is when vehicle fleet mpg increased the fastest in the last 50 years. If you think about it, most fuel efficient cars( except HEV's) are much less expensive. I am not sure about prices in US or Europe, but in Australia, smaller cars using 6L/100km cost about $AUD 15,000, while SUV's and light trucks getting 9-14L/100km, are about $AUD 35,000 or more. In other words a family could rather than buy a new SUV, replace both fuel inefficient cars with two new cars, use about half as much fuel for each car and still spend less. If its not happening yet in US, wait until prices are >$8 per gallon. Just about every new-car buyer can do the sums( small car=saving >250 gallons of fuel per year, plus half the financing costs).
Its more complex for second-hand car buyers, but if you look in papers lots of older fuel efficient cars available <$5,000.
The issue about paying off existing cars is important, but many new cars are on 3 year lease arrangements. Its not as though consumers are spending 100% of disposable income on vehicles. In The Australia Financial Review it showed a graph that shows that vehicle running costs as % income are only 6%( was 8% in 1980). Even a further doubling in fuel( to $3.50/L;$USD 12/gallon) could be accommodated by reductions in eating out, reductions in electrical, furniture and white goods purchases.