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Washington, June 17, 2008 – With the official beginning of summer just a few days away, consumers are beginning to think twice about their July 4th plans. According to the National Retail Federation’s 2008 Independence Day Consumer Intentions and Actions survey, conducted by BIGresearch, 59.4 percent of consumers say increased gas prices will impact their spending for the holiday, up from 42.1 percent of consumers who said so last year.

Kilroy says:

''What's all these silly little green numbers?''.

I bumped you up one, MUDLOGGER. You owe me.

Ha Ha!

I dont care.

Its the first step on the path to enlightenemt...

MUDLOGGER...The little green number is assigned by the thought control police (tcp). A high number indicates that you are thinking and posting according to tcp guidelines. A low number indicates the opposite. At this time we do not know what the guidelines are. Eventually, as we post more and watch our little green numbers we will know what is 'good' and what is 'bad'.

Right now we are in a training period. Obviously some posters, those that have little green numbers in double digits, have been pre-approved by the tcp.

BTW, I have heard a couple of roumors that are making the rounds: 1) If the tcp really, really, get ticked off at us we might be banned from posting...2) I heard that Hothgar is returning from Mt Olympus where he has been studying under Zuse. Hothgar is rumored to have a worse disposition than before. I cannot decide which fate would be worse...tolerating the rath of Hothgar or just finding another site to hang out on. What would you do?

MUDLOGGER...you owe me one also.

Ha Ha!

Live free.

Die Happy.

I would welcome Hothgar back.

I will make a note to ping you lots of greenies.

And yes, as TOD becomes more 'professional' expect more thought control and thereby self - censorship.

... after all , who could face life in the morning with negative greenies? - the shame!

Or worse still : no response whatsoever?

Gadzooks! Peak must truly have arrived: TOD is becoming professional.

"...expect more thought control and thereby self - censorship."

NEVER! HA HA

I bumped you up for your post although I would presume you don't care. And, yes, I feel a bit guilty for being part of the system. This is an experiment and may actually result in "better" posts whatever that means. Some or maybe many posters here will try harder to have their posts appreciated by other posters. Accordingly, they will be more careful in the way they express themselves. This is a testament to our educational and work system which encourages behavior whereby we learn to play well with others. Many of the low scorers will be either banned or will wander off elsewhere to the nether regions of the internet.

Personally, I don't mind the people I perceive as dickheads because this forces me to confront the opinions of dickheads, that is, the possible majority of people out there. Alternatively, even stupid opinions are welcome and I fear that this experiment will be too successful.

I assume we are all being watched by the government; I feel this system is kind of piling on. And,hey, a number system might even help the government more efficiently monitor our activities.

And anyone who thinks I am being paranoid hasn't been paying attention to the news for the last several years.

Go visit the tech news site Slashdot to see how it works, they've been using a similar system for years. Basically the idea is to help readers of sites with tons of comments find the most useful ones and skip over any irrelevant ones.

Why would I want to be so sad as to visit a tech news site?

Why would I want to discriminate?

Some are brilliant, some are weird, some are off the wall, some are geeky, some are plainsong, some are exotic.

All are the last bastion of free speech.

Millbrook, perhaps it has not occured to you that if we wanted to hang out at Slashdot that we would already be there? Just possibly, some of us like TOD? I have been to Slashdot and it sucks.

with the rating system in place, this site will become just as bad as there.
no change from popular opinion because those who differ from it are rated to oblivion, once your posts start off with a -1 there they are regulated to the bottom and hidden. don't believe me? try telling slashdot that when you buy a apple pc all your paying for is that apple label, with what inside is normally cheaper then your average dell or hp.

no change from popular opinion because those who differ from it are rated to oblivion

This is a myth, there are contrary opinions posted all the time on slashdot. What you can't do, is put up needlessly inflammatory posts nor ones that are incorrect like your assertion about apple.

No need to react with such hostility, River, and no need to be sarcastic, Mudlogger.

I was recommending neither Slashdot nor the comment rating system, just answering Mudlogger's question about what the green numbers are.

I can see it was a mistake to actually answer the question -- Mudlogger is out to bash the ratings system, not to understand the intent of the moderators in testing it.

Millbrook, I did not react with 'hostility' but I am capable of doing so.

If you have failed to think through the 'ratings system' and see where it will take TOD then it is your fault for not doing so. Lots of people failed to see where the suspension of habeus corpus and the 'patriot act' would take the US. Maybe in time they will 'get it'. Maybe they will be in a 'dention center' with no access to due process or an attorney...but, eventually they will get it.

I strongly believe in being civil, in part because I do not enjoy the stress of trading barbs with people on the internet. Therefore, I do not need a "system" to help me be civil. While others may enjoy conflict, I do not, and primarily come here to learn. If I can provide some constructive ideas, all the better.

On the other hand, I hate this system and do not want to be transported back to grade school.

As I said upside, I appreciate your explaining the system. Now I hate it even more.

And, therefore, I conclude that we should let others decide what is irrelevant. The system, admittedly, is very useful for those who do not choose think for themselves.

I just cannnot imagine looking at a number, such a your number (-1 at this writing) by the way, and then, based on that, skip over it. And how negative does the number be before I should choose to skip the comment?

Although you had a negative number, I found your post useful, as it told me just how truly insane this idea is.