"The peak oil problem is more to do with flow rates than the ultimately recoverable reserve (URR). The CO2 problem is more to do with URR than flow rates."

Yes, nicely put. Seen that way, the US's biggest contribution to fighting climate change may have been the years of Iraqi sanctions and the subsequent war, which together may have damaged some of their oil fields and reduced Iraqi URR?

If American (and friends) actions in Iraq have resulted in more oil permanently staying underground than would otherwise be the case, then certainly a positive move on climate change. Let's hope we can find a less destructive way of keeping the bulk of American, Russian, Chinese and Australian coal underground.

The peak oil problem is more to do with flow rates than the ultimately recoverable reserve (URR). The CO2 problem is more to do with URR than flow rates.

Finally, we are simplifying Peak Oil and Global Climate Change problems enough to put it in two short sentences and show that they are linked problems. That's almost 'sound bite' sized - but, how do we get the MSM to broadcast it? Should MSM try and rapidly educate the world or would that be too disruptive?

MSM has to explain the consequences as well, which is an even bigger problem to solve - less CO2 means less Fossil Fuel and not just less oil consumption.

MSM has to explain the consequences as well, which is an even bigger problem to solve - less CO2 means less Fossil Fuel and not just less oil consumption.

Sorry, but I don't know the consequences of more CO2 either. Oh sure, I've heard it means climate change, but I dont know if that means just warmer nights in most places or more severe storms or sea level rise. Supposedly it means all that, but we dont really have any idea of the magnitude.

The only thing I'm fairly sure about is arguing policy on it is going to be a waste of time because we're just gonna put it all in the air anyways. How do we deal with the negative consequences and leverage the positive consequences. Anyone know where increased rainfall is likely to be so we can start planning flood control, upgrade hydroelectric dams, and move agriculture?

"The peak oil problem is more to do with flow rates than the ultimately recoverable reserve (URR). The CO2 problem is more to do with URR than flow rates."

Another way to look at it is probabilistically. We're flying over the Pacific in the plane with a broken fuel gauge. There's a 95% chance there is enough fuel to land safely on island Aspo, a 50% chance we have enough fuel to land on the more distant island of Cera without having to shove passengers off the plane into the sea, and only a 5% chance of landing on island Engdahl with a full complement of passengers. To which island should the pilot head?

There is this tendency to think the mean expectation should always guide our decisions even when the lower likelihood outcomes do not have equal ramifications. To see why this is flawed reasoning just try the following experiment: Toss a coin four times. Let's say the number of heads is roughly proportional to how much oil is in the ground. The expected number of heads is 2 right? However the chance of having less than 2 heads (lower risk of rapid climate change but early peak oil) is 5/16. The chance of having more than 2 heads (late peak oil but higher risk of climate change) is also 5/16. The chance of the Goldilocks outcome (avoiding the worst outcomes of climate change and early peak oil) is 6/16. That is, getting exactly 2 heads when tossing a coin 4 times (6/16ths) is lower than not getting exactly 2 heads (10/16th).

Any airline pilot who flew farther than Aspo would have his license suspended in these circumstances. Safety First.