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I agree. All too often we are presented with complicated compound graphs that try the patience of even experts. Ordinary folk won't even look at them. T Boone Pickens knows how to do it. "oil is 85 million and demand is 87 million" Period, end of story. That people can understand. I thought his presentation on CNBC was excellent. He's a good teacher.
"T Boone Pickens knows how to do it. "oil is 85 million and demand is 87 million"
If you use that quote, you have to be ready to answer the question "Then why aren't there shortages at the pump?"
People will ask it, and if the answer is not satisfactory, they will dismiss the whole idea.
RC
The reply I give is " Because a third of the world does not want to walk or ride bicycles anymore "
Then give Matt Simmons's price comparisons re cups of expresso coffee,water and soft drinks etc.
Well, Econ 101 informs us that when demand exceeds supply the price rises until more is supplied and/or less is demanded. If an external agency (government) places an artificial/arbitrary ceiling on prices that is below the natural market price, the supply/demand mismatch will then manifest itself as a shortage. Then there is the whole issue of what 85M is...conventional oil, GTL/CTL, biofuels, etc? The non-conventional oil complementary/substitute liquids could very well be supplying the difference if they are not included in the 85M number. A good question is what is the World elasticity of demand for oil? How do country oil subsidies to consumers affect the resource depletion curves and the price? American consumers have a notoriously short and over-optimistic memory: Gasoline prices have tended to rise in a sawtooth fashion...going up quite a bit, then backing off by a quarter, a third, etc, then rising again to exceed the previous peak. During the price regression part of the sawtooth, consumers rejoice, do high-fives and tell themselves that the nay-sayers are idiots and do not understand the (fictional) 'free market',then they go back to driving large SUVs and driving like there is no tomorrow. Most people have no idea that oil was ~$29/barrel back in 2001. The vast majority of people have no concept of PO, and furthermore are ill-equipped to understand even the most basic precepts of PO, and even worse, they don't want to know. Watch 'Three Days of the Condor', and pay rapt attention to the final dialog. Last man (nation) standing is where we are going...Mad Max, anyone?
IMO peak oil is about crude + condensate, the stuff that comes out of the ground as a liquid, has peaking characteristics and decline rates and we haven't produced more than ~74 mbpd for about 4 years.
IMO it isn't about all liquids since that includes ~11 mbpd of so called 'alternates'.
IMO the only reason you would mention 'all liquids' is to show that they clearly aren't adequate alternates despite heavy subsidy and environmental degradation.
An excellent point, and an issue I struggle with. Almost everybody uses the all liquids numbers, but that tends to mask the reality of crude production. I am thinking that perhaps a simple two-line graph showing just c+c (or even just c) on one line, and all liquids on another, would be the best solution. If anybody knows of such a graph, please send me a link or post it.
It depends who your intended audience is, but actually, if they live in a 'net importing' country then the outright decline of 'net exports' in recent years is much more important than peak oil itself.
It is the 'net exports' that are the 'marginal' barrels that determine the current high prices.
http://netoilexports.blogspot.com/
Peak oil is not a problem while you live in an oil exporting country, so I suspect you do mean to just inform people who rely on imported oil?