Your original post on this matter was in reply to Thirra’s asking whether “anybody in the government/opposition” understands the nation’s problems. I assumed, and I think most people would assume, that he meant all members of Parliament not just those in the lower house. Which is why I am surprised that you relied on the OpenAustralia.Org site which does not cover the Senate. Why not go directly to the horse’s mouth, the Australian Parliament website, where you could have searched for the contributions of all members of the Government and the Opposition and minor parties and independents? By choosing to look at only one house of Parliament you created the misleading impression that only four parliamentarians had spoken on peak oil.
Don't try to cover your sloppy reading by nitpicking pedantry and deliberate obtuseness. Let's focus on what's really being discussed here.
Thirra obviously does not think that of the couple of thousand or more federal, state and local elected representatives not one of them has any idea about fossil fuel depletion and climate change. He was obviously asking about people in a position to do something.
Thirra's literal question was whether anyone in Parliament at all knew what was going on, but at the heart of that was the question as to whether anyone in a position to do something about it knew what was going on.
And the answer is that some of them know about peak fossil fuels, but they obviously don't consider it a pressing issue; whereas they know well about climate change, consider it a pressing issue, and are doing counterproductive things about it.
Calm down - there's no reason to start flaming each other.
I think its fair to point to the Senators who have discussed peak oil, especially Senator milne who has mentioned it frequently.
You also (being pedantic) missed various state ministers of various levels of influence who are also following the issue - such as McNamara in Queensland and Alannah MacTiernan in WA (who managed to push through a new electrified rail line between Perth and Mandurah, for example).
Your original post on this matter was in reply to Thirra’s asking whether “anybody in the government/opposition” understands the nation’s problems. I assumed, and I think most people would assume, that he meant all members of Parliament not just those in the lower house. Which is why I am surprised that you relied on the OpenAustralia.Org site which does not cover the Senate. Why not go directly to the horse’s mouth, the Australian Parliament website, where you could have searched for the contributions of all members of the Government and the Opposition and minor parties and independents? By choosing to look at only one house of Parliament you created the misleading impression that only four parliamentarians had spoken on peak oil.
Don't try to cover your sloppy reading by nitpicking pedantry and deliberate obtuseness. Let's focus on what's really being discussed here.
Thirra obviously does not think that of the couple of thousand or more federal, state and local elected representatives not one of them has any idea about fossil fuel depletion and climate change. He was obviously asking about people in a position to do something.
Thirra's literal question was whether anyone in Parliament at all knew what was going on, but at the heart of that was the question as to whether anyone in a position to do something about it knew what was going on.
And the answer is that some of them know about peak fossil fuels, but they obviously don't consider it a pressing issue; whereas they know well about climate change, consider it a pressing issue, and are doing counterproductive things about it.
Calm down - there's no reason to start flaming each other.
I think its fair to point to the Senators who have discussed peak oil, especially Senator milne who has mentioned it frequently.
You also (being pedantic) missed various state ministers of various levels of influence who are also following the issue - such as McNamara in Queensland and Alannah MacTiernan in WA (who managed to push through a new electrified rail line between Perth and Mandurah, for example).