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I don't think CCS is ever going to work.
The energy required and the volume of CO2 to store is huge.
I think goal gasification technologies should be improved as the cost of mining and transporting the coal will increase hugely.
Gasified coal could be mixed (dump load) hydrogen and / or bio/natural gas to create a low emission gas fuel which would work with current infrastructure.
Combined cycle gas plants combined with CSP could provide a semi flexible contribution to the grid, and help offset the cost of thermal storage.
The CO2 could be vented into a greenhouses growing fibrous plants to make building or insulation materials, or oil producing plants or algae making liquid fuel. The waste heat can also be used heating digesters or composters to deal with wastes.
Agreed - I think CCS is just a pipe dream that the coal industry is praying will save them.
Shame this guy is so fixated on coal and nuclear as the way "forward" - you'd think people would be starting to understand that generating our energy needs based on finite resources isn't going to work in the long term.
Gore's plan makes a lot more sense - switch to all renewables as quickly as possible - one problem solved.
Trying to grasp the clean coal and nuclear nettles just condemns us to 30-40 years of rolling problems before we have to adopt Gore's approach anyway - and the longer we wait the harder it becomes to make the switch.
Pipe dream, that's a good one Gav!
The biggest cost isn't likely to be in the energy required to separate, compress and pump the CO2 in resevoirs. More significant is the capital cost of the equipment and infrastructure.
However, CO2 needn't be sequestered directly post combustion (or partially pre combustion in the case of gassification tech), as long as it's offset for a long time it'll do. Mineral sequestration is quite permanent and environmentally benign, and doesn't require huge investments in infrastructure compared to CCS. But the status quo is behind CCS. Agrichar can help too but I see that more as an organic soil improvement with the side benefit of a bit of sequestration. Trees and plants are relatively poor carbon sequesters.
One thing I particularly like about Gore's plan is to 'tax what we burn, not what we earn'. That would really sort things out; with people having more income, they can buy more expensive electric vehicles, lowering CO2 emissions and reducing oil problems. The consumer doesn't suffer financially because costs and benefits of this fiscal system to the consumer largely cancel each other out. They will pay the same or less than in the current system of high income tax, low fuel tax.