Re the future of Australian car manufacturing I think the future is driving less but if you have to own a car it should be CNG fuelled once they get the refit costs down. Word is that hybrids are not right for long commutes from the rural fringe not served by buses. Plug in models with large batteries will need to be recharged at work for the drive home ie an overnight charge won't cover the round trip.
I always thought the Australian newspaper was aimed at offline North Shore retirees wanting to confirm their prejudices. However I think they've got it largely right on Ms Bligh's announcement. It seems unlikely that a sedimentary basin can have all of methane, water, a spare layer to store CO2 and a lower basement of granite hotter than 100C. Of course CSM is not carbon neutral but maybe generates only half the CO2 of burning coal, depending upon the location. There are wells drilled for gas that are commercially viable just for CO2 eg the Caroline well in SA, no doubt to be overlooked by the ETS.
The way I read that article it appears to be jusy sloppy proof reading.It is about geothermal energy,not coal seam gas.Not that I am a defender of "The Australian".Bloody Jurassic Park with a few notable exceptions.
The "Business Spectator" article is beyond my comprehension.Maybe I'm dumb but it seems to me that a lot of MSM journalists want to have a bob each way at the moment.Seems that there is some of that unsettling thinking going on out there,better known as doubt.
On the weekend Alan Ramsay wrote an opinion piece in the SMH which really stuck it up KRudd and Co.
Good to see.Maybe Fairfax gets it a bit more than Newscorp.Link is - http://www.smh.com.au/newsopinion/alanramsay/
The quotes in the Anna Bligh article are accurate - BUT the order of presentation and the interpretation sucks. It's a complete cock-up by the clueless reporter at The Australian.
The press release is definitely about hot rocks, but a quote from the bottom of the release has been turned into the focus of The Australian's report. What she's actually saying is that the Queensland's "cutting edge" technology can see down to deep strata, and in *other* locations, coal seam methane and other valuable deposits are at similar depths.
Hmm, "cutting edge" technology; very useful that, for mining...
;-)
"Word is that hybrids are not right for long commutes from the rural fringe not served by buses. Plug in models with large batteries will need to be recharged at work for the drive home ie an overnight charge won't cover the round trip".
I couldn't disagree more, the advantage of PHEV's, is that the first 60km uses only the battery and the rest on re-charge from a small fuel efficient engine. Still get 1-2L/100Km, way better than any ICE-only car.
No reason why many people will not be able to re-charge from work, in Canada, everyone plugs in their cars to electric block heaters in winter, plug-in's available at work, supermarkets, sports stadiums, parking lots.
My informant who drives a VW diesel tells me his hired Prius (not plug in) revved so hard when the battery was low that it used 7L per 100km. He's told everybody they're only suitable for around town. Of course if the Hyundai Elantra LPG hybrid could use CNG instead and also plug in we might get the best of all worlds. Dunno if the minimum wage worker in Gosford who works night shift in the Sydney CBD wants to pay that sort of money though. Which is the top priority for long distance commuters..solar hot water, fuel miser car, moving closer or local job that pays less?
Don't know why anyone would think a Prius isn't a superb highway car, unless by highway you mean Autobahn and expect to cruise at 180km/hr. That it won't do. At 55 miles/hour I get 55 miles/US gallon (4.3l/100km) or better. My last long trip I averaged 61 (3.9), aided by the road construction keeping the speeds down. The small engine operates very efficiently at the power level required for reasonable highway speeds, plus with with small engine that need not actually run just to creep along, it does very well in congested highway traffic (which is plenty common, after all) and in the city. It's a very nice, comfortable highway cruiser for long trips.
people who have long commutes will simply have to adjust to the new reality - which means living cloe to a train line or - better yet - living closer to where they work.
Driving 60km+ each way each day is just foolish - and will no longer be affordable.
I think I will have to get a motorbike and keep the car in reserve (anyone with a family will know that motorbikes are pretty useless for most things aside from moving one, perhaps two passengers from A to B). Other options don't really exist for most people here.
I won't hold my breath for public transport to appear. Then again, it's a marginal seat so if the calls grow loud enough, then just maybe......
Re the future of Australian car manufacturing I think the future is driving less but if you have to own a car it should be CNG fuelled once they get the refit costs down. Word is that hybrids are not right for long commutes from the rural fringe not served by buses. Plug in models with large batteries will need to be recharged at work for the drive home ie an overnight charge won't cover the round trip.
I always thought the Australian newspaper was aimed at offline North Shore retirees wanting to confirm their prejudices. However I think they've got it largely right on Ms Bligh's announcement. It seems unlikely that a sedimentary basin can have all of methane, water, a spare layer to store CO2 and a lower basement of granite hotter than 100C. Of course CSM is not carbon neutral but maybe generates only half the CO2 of burning coal, depending upon the location. There are wells drilled for gas that are commercially viable just for CO2 eg the Caroline well in SA, no doubt to be overlooked by the ETS.
The way I read that article it appears to be jusy sloppy proof reading.It is about geothermal energy,not coal seam gas.Not that I am a defender of "The Australian".Bloody Jurassic Park with a few notable exceptions.
The "Business Spectator" article is beyond my comprehension.Maybe I'm dumb but it seems to me that a lot of MSM journalists want to have a bob each way at the moment.Seems that there is some of that unsettling thinking going on out there,better known as doubt.
On the weekend Alan Ramsay wrote an opinion piece in the SMH which really stuck it up KRudd and Co.
Good to see.Maybe Fairfax gets it a bit more than Newscorp.Link is -
http://www.smh.com.au/newsopinion/alanramsay/
The quotes in the Anna Bligh article are accurate - BUT the order of presentation and the interpretation sucks. It's a complete cock-up by the clueless reporter at The Australian.
Premier Bligh's original press release is here:
http://statements.cabinet.qld.gov.au/MMS/StatementDisplaySingle.aspx?id=...
The press release is definitely about hot rocks, but a quote from the bottom of the release has been turned into the focus of The Australian's report. What she's actually saying is that the Queensland's "cutting edge" technology can see down to deep strata, and in *other* locations, coal seam methane and other valuable deposits are at similar depths.
Hmm, "cutting edge" technology; very useful that, for mining...
;-)
"Word is that hybrids are not right for long commutes from the rural fringe not served by buses. Plug in models with large batteries will need to be recharged at work for the drive home ie an overnight charge won't cover the round trip".
I couldn't disagree more, the advantage of PHEV's, is that the first 60km uses only the battery and the rest on re-charge from a small fuel efficient engine. Still get 1-2L/100Km, way better than any ICE-only car.
No reason why many people will not be able to re-charge from work, in Canada, everyone plugs in their cars to electric block heaters in winter, plug-in's available at work, supermarkets, sports stadiums, parking lots.
My informant who drives a VW diesel tells me his hired Prius (not plug in) revved so hard when the battery was low that it used 7L per 100km. He's told everybody they're only suitable for around town. Of course if the Hyundai Elantra LPG hybrid could use CNG instead and also plug in we might get the best of all worlds. Dunno if the minimum wage worker in Gosford who works night shift in the Sydney CBD wants to pay that sort of money though. Which is the top priority for long distance commuters..solar hot water, fuel miser car, moving closer or local job that pays less?
Boof, when I lived in Gosford and worked Night Shift in Sydney, I took the train...
(Also it's much easier to catch a few hours of kip than you can while driving up the F3!)
Don't know why anyone would think a Prius isn't a superb highway car, unless by highway you mean Autobahn and expect to cruise at 180km/hr. That it won't do. At 55 miles/hour I get 55 miles/US gallon (4.3l/100km) or better. My last long trip I averaged 61 (3.9), aided by the road construction keeping the speeds down. The small engine operates very efficiently at the power level required for reasonable highway speeds, plus with with small engine that need not actually run just to creep along, it does very well in congested highway traffic (which is plenty common, after all) and in the city. It's a very nice, comfortable highway cruiser for long trips.
Exactly right - PHEV's should be the norm.
people who have long commutes will simply have to adjust to the new reality - which means living cloe to a train line or - better yet - living closer to where they work.
Driving 60km+ each way each day is just foolish - and will no longer be affordable.
I think I will have to get a motorbike and keep the car in reserve (anyone with a family will know that motorbikes are pretty useless for most things aside from moving one, perhaps two passengers from A to B). Other options don't really exist for most people here.
I won't hold my breath for public transport to appear. Then again, it's a marginal seat so if the calls grow loud enough, then just maybe......