If I've got it right they're saying handing back carbon revenue on petrol while fares go up will discourage public transport. Yes, no, maybe since there are a lot of complex effects going on that are hard to predict.

For starters if they cut petrol excise by 5c to bring the bowser price down to say $2 a litre the bus may still be attactive. BTW the daily return bus fare on a commute I used to do in NSW is now $28.80. If they left the 5c on petrol (corresponding to $20 per tonne of CO2) and gave it to bus subsidies there would be some balancing point whereby x% drivers were subsidising (100-x)% of new bus passengers. The value of x is anybody's guess, say 50% will give up cars.

Sticking with 5c a litre on petrol which might raise say $2.5bn they could abolish the means test on solar gadgets. That might lower electricity bills so people had more cash to spend on petrol. But petrol is effectively capped unless they want to cut coal or gas or some other form of carbon. That would drive up the price of petrol (more demand, fixed supply) in a rebound or Jevons effect, so again taking the bus looks like a good option.

These I think are the kinds of economic modelling scenarios that will take Treasury until October to work out, assuming their models can cope with these intricacies.

5c a litre is too small politically. My guess is that it would need to be about 15c cut to soothe the natives and this may be introduced/announced just before the election. The carbon price will be set by the market of course, which will happen after the election. Thats the 2009 election of course, this time next year. (my prediction)

While all this argy bargy is going on about carbon caps/trades/capture/tax/price etc etc precisely sweet bugger all is actually being done to reduce carbon emissions.The whole gabfest is really just an excuse to continue BAU until the bottom falls out of the bucket of bullshit.By then it is too late of course and everybody is too busy just surviving to blame the retards who did nothing and probably sitting pretty in their little hideaways thinking themselves safe from the lumpen proles.
I think not.

Artificially reducing the price of fuel is just so astoundingly stupid.
Ditto for not putting more resouces into public transport.
Ditto for not pressing on with long distance electrified rail to get all those B Doubles off the roads.
And ditto,ditto,ditto ad nauseum for all the other stupidity be served up by the "intelligentsia".
It's like watching mice caught in a pale of water struggling to get out(memorys of mice plagues in the bush).In my more cynical moments I have to laugh.