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Rethin on August 16, 2008 - 7:11pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

BTW, to get the "True" number of acres of corn used you have to take the yield (use 450 gal/acre - it's, actually, now a little more) and divide by .60 (you get 40% of your weight gaining ability back from the distillers grains.)

Feeding your grain to cattle does not increase your yield.

Why you insist on repeating this utter falsehood time and time again is beyond me. Its not like it hasn't been pointed out to you each and every time.

The first couple of dozen time you've done this I guess I could dismiss it as plain stupidity. But the fact you continue to do so shows nothing but the plain desire to deceive.

You are a liar, a fraud and and all round pain in the butt. Please go away.

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kdolliso on August 16, 2008 - 8:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

That's what field corn is, R, Cattle feed.

It consists of starch, and protein. To make ethanol you remove the 1/3 that's starch, and retain the approx one third that's protein. The approx 1/3 that's CO2 is either vented, or, increasingly, used for dry ice, soft drink carbonation, or oil field flooding.

There's also a little over a pound of corn oil in there (that, actually, is bad for the livestock) that's increasingly being removed to be used for either biodiesel, or cooking oil.

As you have, no doubt, noticed: No one, yet, has disputed any of the particulars of what I've had to say. I'm sorry knowledge offends you so. You might try the funny papers, tomorrow. They're entertaining, and will not upset you with truths you don't want to hear.

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Rethin on August 17, 2008 - 12:57am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

It doesn't matter what you do to the DDG. You still have x gallons of ethanol from the fermentation.

You are trying to attribute whatever energy credit you can get from the ddg to the ethanol itself.

I don't care how fat your cows are getting. Unless they start pissing ethanol ddg's do not increase ethanol yield.

This is a lie. Stop repeating it.

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kdolliso on August 17, 2008 - 6:05pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

One last time:

I've got an acre of cattle feed (corn.) I use 2/3 of it to produce ethanol. I get 450 gallons of ethanol. What is my yield/acre.

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Rethin on August 17, 2008 - 8:36pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Your yield is 450 gallons.

It matters nothing what you do with the DDGs. Feed them to your cow, burn them for heat, throw them back on the field as fertilizer etc. You still only get 450 gallons

You can't divide 450 by .6 like you repeatably claim.

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