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JonFreise and memmel,
After doing a little bit more research, I wish to pull together and add to a scattered discussion that took place on several separate threads last week. It deals with mass balance, the principle stated as follows:
There seems to be a growing problem with the balance between reported production (mass entering the system), reported consumption (mass leaving the system) and reported storage (mass accumulating within the system). Although inconsistencies in this regard appear with both world liquids and domestic natural gas, I wish to focus my interest here more on natural gas.
Last week someone posted a link to this June 11, 2008 EIA Bulletin which asserts there have been huge increases in domestic natural gas production over the past year:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/energy_in_brief/natural_gas_production.cfm
memmel responded by posting a chart that showed natural gas storage, which has shown no proportionate increase. Since the extra gas is not going into storage, he posits:
I have an entirely different theory, and that is that there has been no increase in natural gas in storage because the reported increase in natural gas production never existed.
My intentions here are therefore two-fold:
1) To demonstrate that at least some of the production information contained in the EIA bulletin is wrong, and
2) To pose a couple of troubling questions. To wit, could the EIA’s publishing of erroneous data be intentional? What reasons would the EIA have for manipulating data? And why now?
The EIA bulletin makes the following claims:
and
I stated previously that this last statement is false. After doing a little bit more digging into the EIA methodology, I am even more convinced that the EIA figures are in error.
Here are the EIA figures juxtaposed next to the Texas Railroad Commission figures. You can see yourself how they compare. (I have also included production from the Barnett Shale--East Newark Field--since I felt there might be some curiosity about that too):
Texas Natural Gas Production (BCF/day) Month EIA Bulletin Texas RRC Texas RRC (statewide) (statewide) (Barnett Shale) Jan 07 17.64 17.47 2.27 Feb 07 17.82 17.89 2.35 Mar 07 18.37 18.28 2.45 Apr 07 18.26 18.28 2.53 May 07 18.3 18.44 2.62 Jun 07 18.75 18.66 2.70 Jul 07 18.86 18.67 2.76 Aug 07 19.19 18.77 2.84 Sep 07 19.30 18.73 2.84 Oct 07 19.60 18.75 2.95 Nov 07 19.94 18.75 2.82 Dec 07 20.24 18.55 2.70 Jan 08 20.42 18.21 2.59 Feb 08 20.80 18.20 2.49 Mar 08 21.05 17.89 2.36 Apr 08 21.25 17.36 2.26 May 08 21.54 16.58 2.18The Texas Railroad Commission figures can be found here:
http://webapps.rrc.state.tx.us/PDQ/generalReportAction.do
and the EIA figures here:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/natural_gas/data_publications/eia914/gros...
As you can see, the EIA figures began diverging from Texas Railroad Commission figures beginning in July of last year and have progressively grown farther apart.
Texas Railroad Commission figures reflect actual production.
EIA figures reflect estimates, calculated using a mathematical model as described here:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/natural_gas/data_publications/eia914/eia9...
EIA samples well operators. The EIA states that "Production volumes are requested" of the operators, meaning response is totally voluntary. The EIA uses the following survey form:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/natural_gas/survey_forms/eia914f.pdf
This provides for sampling with a very broad brush. Note that the well operators are requested to report only statewide totals, the reporting thus lacking the lease by lease detail that is required in Texas Railroad Commission reports.
The current EIA methodology actually represents a recent change. In switching from using actual production figures (provided by State agencies) to estimates (based on a sampling of well operators), the EIA offered the following justification:
Expanding on the shortcomings of the old methodology, the EIA goes on to explain:
The Texas Railroad Commission figures I believe to be absolutely correct, based on actual production, derived from reports that are a statutory requirement imposed upon the operators. Quoting from the Texas Administrative Code, Title 16, Part 1, Chapter 3, Rule 3.54:
I have several overriding royalty interests in Texas and I can assure you that one can accurately calculate his royalty payments using the Texas Railroad Commission data. And the Texas Railroad Commission always publishes its monthly production figures within 50 to 55 days following the close of the month.
So in those states like Texas that publish accurate and timely production figures, why does the EIA not use actual production instead of estimates, estimates derived from some arcane mathematical model open to manipulation and error?
Just a couple more observations/questions:
It seems the EIA methodology is especially susceptible to manipulation by operators. The EIA may be collecting data faithfully and applying its model without bias. But since the operator responses are voluntary and not mandatory, as is the case with the production reports required by the Texas Railroad Commission, and very vague and lacking in any detail, a handful of large operators could give false data and skew the data, and with no legal repercussions.
Could these inaccurate EIA reports have any effect on the spot and futures prices of natural gas? Of oil?
What does this say about the credibility of EIA reports? If they got this so wrong, what’s to keep them from getting it wrong in other areas, like world oil production? After all, even if there was no intent to deliberately distort the data, they nevertheless are guilty of adopting a shoddy model that allows others to all too easily corrupt the data from without.
SailDog, talking about world liquids, commented:
However, he didn’t go on to explain. SailDog, are you out there? Can you or someone else expand on what you were talking about? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Very good post. BTW, what does the RRC show for the recent decline in Barnett Shale production?
FYI--Texas has shown an increase in annual natural gas production, because of the Barnett Shale, but we are still one-third below our 1972 peak rate, and it took four times as many wells in 2007 as 1972 to bring production up to two-thirds of our peak rate. This is the nationwide problem that we are facing, as we replace large conventional wells with generally lower volume unconventional wells, generally with a faster decline rate.
westexas,
Thanks for the compliment.
I included the production figures for the Barnett Shale in the table, far right column.
Since the Barnett Shale and other resource plays have received so much media attention recently, I thought there might be interest in those.
Sorry, I missed it on the first pass. Wow--from a peak rate of 3.0 BCF per day to 2.2 in less than a year, even as the number of producing wells increased. This is an annualized decline rate of 47% per year.
When I started reading your post DS I figured perhaps the Earth is consuming oil faster than it produces it?
You know, abiotic oil in reverse.
Seriously, that's worthy of a keypost in of itself. That decline in the Barnett Shale is staggering, if this is going on perhaps top down machinations are in play somehow. Caruso is stepping down next month, wonder if he has a skeleton in the closet or whistle to blow here?
This is a piece from Matt Simmons calling into question EIA data: Matthew Simmons on Inventories « Crude Oil, which is excerpted from his PDF Anothern Nail in the Coffin of the Case Against Peak Oil. In case you haven't read these.
Regarding the IEA, Birol has stated in interviews that government intervention will in all likelihood be necessary to cope with supply falling short of demand. SailDog will perhaps expand on that.
GREAT OBSERVATION!!!!
ROFLMAO
Yes, and this gets reflected in the financials of those operators that are heavily committed to the exploitation of these shale plays.
Take Chesapeake Energy, for instance. Direct from its own financial statements, look what is happening to costs:
Investment in Quarter Oper. Costs Property & Equipment (per MCF) (per MCF produced during qtr) Q2-2003 $2.27 $58.86 Q2-2004 2.60 63.54 Q2-2005 3.11 120.80 Q2-2006 3.90 116.52 Q2-2007 4.50 154.00 Q2-2008 4.73 142.71In the last five years, production costs per MCF have increased by 208% while the amount of investment required to produce an equivalent amount of gas is up even more, by 242%. Gas prices, however, have increased only 142%, from $5.64 in Q2-2003 to the current $8.11.
If some pretty hefty increases in the price of natural gas are not in the offing, I would question the continued economic viability of these resource plays.
this is precisely what one would predict in a declining net energy environment. On top of this, there are going to be water (and other environmental) restrictions on some of these unconventional plays, raising costs even more. Even though a discounted cash flow would suggest that Haynesville gas can be produced at $1-2 per mcf - they still need very large upfront capital costs AND permissioning from local authorities (water, etc.)
All this recent news suggests to me new higher floors on the energy commodities, but not necessarily commensurate increases in the energy stocks.
I need to dig up the rig counts again from rigzone. But we have most of our rigs drilling for NG in the shale plays. Given the decline of the Barrnet Shale and the fact that the more of this we bring online the more we have to drill it will be impossible to keep up and the tighter the rig market gets the higher the cost of drilling.
In short these guys are looking at a exponential increase in cost going forward to even keep production levels the same. Throw in a dash of EROI and ...
Next of course we will continue to have production declines in traditional plays.
My opinion is that in time the shale plays will behave pretty much like the tar sands they will be a produced at a fraction of the overall reserve levels. We can and will continue to produce them for value add production like Ammonia synthesis for a long time.
This and the TOD post are really interesting.
Can somebody answer the obvious question?
Assuming declining production, increasing costs, then what sense does it make to inflate production figures too high?
Shouldn't the supposed production glut bring seller prices down, cutting into already diminishing producer margins?
I think the motivation for this gaming of the system is political. In other words, the EIA, IEA and other energy reporting agencies controlled by the West are trying to create a favorable (but false) impression of the world energy/finance picture during the last few months before the US presidential election. Energy producers and refiners sympathetic to Western businesses know that this strategy will cost them money in the short term, but they are looking forward to the long-term "benefit" of helping to elect a president favorable to their interests.
This is why the price of oil in the US has fallen, and why the price of gasoline continues to fall, even though there is abundant evidence that we are draining down our petroleum inventories. But I don't think the game can last much longer. We certainly won't make it to November without a major price spike, in my opinion.
Same opinion here we will not make it to Nov 26 without a price spike so this big game is not directly about the election since it ends before the election. Therefore the only other big thing TM is and attack on Iran.
This would make Mcain very electable as even the dumbest American realizes that we probably just started WW III.
Also my Obama/Hillary prediction was a complete flop.
But besides this we are seeing right now whats probably the last big push to keep the economy going and it has the form of a very short term boost that will not last. I'm convinced it has a reason and that it won't end without some sort of return on investment and I'm also convinced it can't extend past the election.
At least one element of "big money" still seems to think it might happen
Hillary Clinton’s rich friend Lady de Rothschild ambushes Barack Obama
The Rothschilds have agents in both the McCain and Obama camps. They know how to hedge their bets and play both sides. It amazes me that the inbred bas!@#$s are so adept at covering their bases. It could be Hillary.. it would be the smart choice.. BUT Obama basically gave her a public smack down because of her last minute efforts to secure the vice presidential nomination.
My opinion (and as a UK citizen I have no say): Without Hilary, Obama loses. With Hilary he might win. Obama has been deliberately pushed too far too fast. If he's stupid enough to believe it's all about him then so be it. Let's see what happens. I'm not counting Hilary out yet...
Btw, I'm not a particular Hilary fan but Stewart/Colbert 2008 isn't an option :)
Sadly I have to root for Mcain to win. Simply because I believe if it looks like Obama is going to win regardless of the ticket Bush will attack Iran. But even with this Mcain would need to be showing a massive lead to prevent and attack before the elections. I think if the US is in a war situation post and Iranian attack Mcain will win but that does not do us any good.
The best short term outcome is for Bush not to attack and Mcain to enter office since it could then take 1-2 years to set up for and attack on Iran. However I question if the Israelis will hold out that long.
Barring this and Obama win and and attack after the election.
The outcome I of course hope for is and Obama win and no attack.
Personally as far as the Middle East is concerned and its oil I could care less if it get involved in a major war or if Iran gets nuclear weapons etc. We need to look past our oil dependencies and I'm convinced we can put in electric rail at a reasonable rate with basically no ME oil. It may be very tough but it can be done.
Given that our other option is a US/Israeli initiated war I don't see a winner.
The sooner the US turns inward and focuses on its own problems at home the better off every one will be in a bigger sense.
For Iran I really don't see a bright future regardless of the outcomes I think that their exports will continue to dwindle no way they can put in Nuclear Power fast enough to solve their energy problems. Internally the country is in really bad shape.
http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=175358
http://www.iranfocus.com/en/special-wire/iran-inflation-rate-rising-ten-...
They have 26% inflation rate.
The point is that even if things are left alone Iran is heading for disaster at the moment.
Someone on CNN this morning predicted that McCain would pick T. Boone Pickens as his VP.
Now that might be interesting...
If he picks TBP that would be political suicide. From what I understand TBP doesn't particularly like McCain which is why he isn't swiftboating Obama this time around.
I'm not sure an Obama/Hillary ticket benefits anyone. Including Hillary.
Hillary has high negatives of her own; I think she could lose Obama as many voters as she brings him if she's the VP. Or more. Obama would have to deal with not only Hillary, but Bill, who was far more upset about Hillary losing than Hillary was.
And Hillary is probably better off not being on the ticket. If they lose, or if Obama's first term is a disaster, she's damaged goods if she's VP. If she's not, and Obama goes down in flames, she'll be the "I told you so" candidate - the one the Democrats will be wishing they'd picked.
Its a tough call and to be brutally honest Obama will be a potential target of the lunatic fringe in the US.
Especially if the economy really heads down towards a president.
Hillary as VP stands better odds then normal of becoming president. Knowing what I know about Hillary I'm sure she has considered this.
If she is VP should could easily take and outspoken stance if Obama seems to be foundering and be isolated.
So she could easily play the I told you so ticket as a VP.
Its a tough call but whats important about this election is in my opinion not who the winner is because honestly the problems are overwhelming only a broad scale change can handle what seems to be coming. The right answer or path will if we decide to take it will be taken with our without the presidents help.
Barring this it does not matter really I think who is in office.
The only thing I really give a rip about is getting Bush out of office without and attack on Iran.
Just recently I reach the point that I don't give a rip about the geopolitics of the end of the oil age
all I care about is if the powers that be can be held off long enough for people to realize the real problem is oil and if people can finally start rejecting oil and all its geopolitical woes.
However I'm becoming increasingly concerned that this won't happen and that geopolitical maneuvering will lead to significant reductions in the oil supply and people won't even realize that under this depletion was the real cause.
The problem is that the depletion problem has to become blatantly obvious before we will see support for moving off of oil. Look at our site we routinely get people who review the facts but still feel like some technological solution will save the day. The world has to go through this and it may well take years before they admit that no we don't have enough oil and we need substitutes. All of this has to happen in a incredibly tense geopolitical situation without above ground factors causing major problems.
I don't have a lot of hope but I sure will breath easier once Bush is out of office regardless of who wins that a step in the right direction.
So you don't care about the geopolitics of end of oil age as long as people reject those geopolitics? Works for me, too.
It strikes me that ultimately Bush - or anyone that replaces him - will want to start a world war as a way to stay on top of the heap during the necessary powerdown. A limited world war of course. Start might not be the right word; it has already started.
Obama or Hillary would do the same as Bush or McCain. It's in the national interest for the political class they represent and it's not like any of them are defrocked liberation theologians.
An attack on Iran would do exactly as you describe. Mask the depletion under a long standing war and boost the military-industrial complex at the same time - supporting the existing political class. The downslide will - for those of us in US - look like it's the fault of bad operators around the world. Us against them forever. I don't know if Russia, Chindia and other global players are going along or not; in this game of musical chairs everyone will be cut out sooner or later.
Emmanuel Goldstein
Hillary will never be President. If she couldn't stand up against a black man from a half Muslim family... she will always be too weak to be president. No matter how much support she had, her real problem was how little support she had. She might get the "I told you so" candidate title, but I doubt she will make it beyond Senator. People have rejected what another Clinton presidency represents... and Obama is the name of that rejection.
I was sure that Obama would be the next president since at least last December, but he's made some critical mistakes which is basically all that can keep him out of office. He already lost the support of Israel and Big Oil. The other factor that hasn't been explored much is race. In past elections people have said they would vote for a black candidate, but in the privacy of the voter booth they didn't do it. We'll see in a few months how much of his support remains...
I doubt he'll pick Hillary, but it would be his best bet.
The US economy is going to need a mighty big push if it is to keep going:
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/08/americas-war-to...
After LBJ and Bush, Texas doesn't have such a hot track record when it comes to presidents.
You have summed up my suspicions about what is happening pretty well. Obama was talking about windfall profit taxes, while McCain was coddling the oil industry. McCain has two very powerful segments of support which are Big Oil and Israel.
As for price spike, I won't guess about the timing of the next big spike... but I think we will hit $200. Unless it turns out that KSA is being honest and everybody here has been making flawed models. Call me a cynic.. :)
Excellent question, SamuM, one for which I have no good answer.
Some, but certainly not all, of the oil and gas producers engage in hedging to soften the effects of the market vagaries. If one goes to Chesapeake's 10Q (Quarterly report) for Q2-2008, for instance, one can find a listing of various kinds of swaps, derivatives, hedges, call options and collars the company has (pp 43-44).
But not all oil and gas producers use these derivative instruments, nor do those companies who do have instruments to protect 100% of their production. So I would say almost all companies have at least some exposure to the market.
Curious...
Chesapeake to spin off midstream natural gas unit
BTW, one point to check on is if the EIA is counting total gas, i.e., gas wells + casinghead gas. However, as you noted, the figures were in agreement in prior periods.
In this regard the EIA is a little vague as to its sampling methodology:
The Texas Reailroad Commission, however, does make the distinction and casinghead gas production constitutes only about 2 BCFPD of total natural gas production, so leaving that out wouldn't be enough to explain the difference.
That is very helpful, because another idea of where the nat gas could come from was blowing off gas caps.
RE: Downsouth's Texas gas production table.
Please forgive my ignorance, but this table, (as is the case with a number of tables, graphs, etc.) does not "fit" in the window that I can see. That is, the right hand portion does not show up, so that I cannot see, in this case, the Barnett shale information.
Does anyone know what I can do to see it all? I am running Windows Vista, and enlarging, etc. does not work.
Jbunt, if you were running XT then you would click on "Start", then "control panel", then "appearance and themes". There set screen resolution to 1280 - 960. That would do it.
However I don't guess that works with Vista. But Vista MUST have a way to change the screen resolution. Try googling "Vista changing screen resolution". That should tell you how to do it.
In MS Explorer, which I'm using, one can go to "view" and reduce the text size from "largest" or "larger" to "medium" -- then the whole chart can be viewed.
Or just type ctrl + (control key and + sign) to Zoom in or ctrl - to Zoom out.
In Explorer? I don't think so. That does work in Firefox, though.
Cheers
In addition to Darwinian's suggestion to up the screen resolution, (apologies if this is obvious) but please also click the Full-screen icon at the top right of the browser screen (between the X to close and _ minimize)if you haven't already done so. This gives the browser more space to display the charts/text.
The reason I mention this is because it is unlikely if you are running Vista on a new machine that you would be at a screen resolution too low to display the above table correctly in full screen mode (I reckon you'd need to be at 800*600 which you wouldn't normally expect a Vista machine to be running at). If you are using full screen mode then follow Darwinian's suggestion or get someone who can help to do it.
If it's not a new machine and you have updated an old machine with Vista it can happen that Windows defaults the resolution to a lower value depending on drivers and questions during setup but you should still be able to change it.
It's also , of course possible, that someone has intentionally adjusted your resolution and/or font (text) size to make it easier to read.
Oh, finally - nearly forgot -if you have a sidebar open (left of browser window) then close it. Hope this makes sense.
Many thanks guys - sorry that it was embarrasingly so simple.
DownSouth - In your first post, you said that you included the East Newark field from the Barnett Shale. When I went to the site, the Texas RR commission listed 13 fields that had Barnett Shale, including the East Newark. Did you add them all up??
DownSouth, I tend to agree with you. I think the EIA often fudges the numbers, or often just makes wild guesses as to crude oil production. OPEC does not publish any official figures about production however they do publish production figures and inform us that they are according to "external sources". The figures the EIA publishes, for crude oil, average average about 1,500,000 barrels per day above what OPEC reports from their "external sources".
Occasionally one can find glaring errors in the EIA figures. In May, Saudi Arabia announced that they were increasing production by 300 thousand barrels per day. They said they had started increasing production on May 10th. They did not say when that extra 300 thousand barrels would be completely on line most expected it to be there by the end of May. However the EIA simply added the 300 thousand barrels per day from the beginning of May. The EIA showed Saudi production increased from 9,100,000 bp/d in April to 9,400,000 bp/d in May. However OPEC's "external sources" reported Saudi production increasing from 8,984,000 bp/d in April to 9,155,000 bp/d in May, an increase of 171 thousand barrels per day.
Ron Patterson
Check out the Saudi news item that Leanan just posted uptop--more reports of fuel shortages in Saudi Arabia. Prior to the reports of fuel shortages, I advanced the theory that Saudi Arabia might be curtailing their domestic refinery runs, in order to boost reported crude exports. My underling premise was that the Saudis prefer to see McCain elected over Obama.
Hi Jeffrey,
re: "My underling premise was that the Saudis prefer to see McCain elected over Obama."
How come?
In June 07 alot of weirdness happened.
In the middle of June we got a 6 mb rise in gasoline inventories.
"Even as Summer driving season kicked off.
AP-updated 6:44 p.m. CT, Thurs., May. 17, 2007
WASHINGTON - Despite record fuel prices above $3 per gallon, more Americans will travel by car over the Memorial Day holiday weekend than a year ago, according to a survey by travel agency AAA."
And no one postulate then that demand destruction was occurring.
Along with 400 k per day in ethanol starting then(which was also denied).
I've been looking for documentation of the last reliable indicator/thermostat
being shot off the wall.
Thanx for that, DS.
James
DownSouth -
It is indeed curious!
While I am not sufficiently knowlegeable on how US government energy statistics are collected and manipulated, from the many years I spent in the environmental consulting field, I can safely say that a lot of the aggregated environmental data collected by the US government, such as air emissions, waste generation rates, and toxic materials inventories, are so loosey-goosey as to be virtually worthless, particularly when making year-to-year comparisons.
What typically happens is that someone fills out a questionnaire where he has to choose say between being in a category spanning 10,000 to 100,000 or a category spanning 100,000 to 1 million, and so he guesses. Then those thousands of questionnaires are compiled to come up with a grand total, usually given to within four significant figures. It looks like real data but it is not.
Now, I don't know whether that sort of thing is happening here, but one can't go too far wrong in distrusting any aggregated statistic generated by some US government agency.
Whenever there is unaudited voluntary data reporting, there is bound to be a bit of 'creativity' injected into the reporting process. Then if you have a government agency on the other end 'correcting' or 'adjusting' the data, you basically are left with garbage.
It raises the question, that maybe word-wide oil production figures are also falsified. Increases in production do not seem to result in increasing exports, even when you account for rising consumption in oil producer countries.
And in the same vein, DEMAND DESTRUCTION, the magic downward driver of energy prices in the MSM of recent, just happens to have the "unimpeachable" source as does DownSouth's culprit.
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4351#comment-386535
I'm thinking I capitulated too soon.
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4408#comment-393422
EDIT
In order to clarify my thinking the first link offered points out to Datamunger that the prior(web page updated Aug 12th) head of the Federal Highway Administration was a f*cking LAWYER!
Since I have been watching the trainwreck of Detroits' Kwame Kilpatrick I am convinced that no pile of filth is too foul for our politicians to roll in.
Geez, things just keep getting curiouser and curiouser.
I went to the Texas RRC Production Data Query to get a breakout of statewide casinghead gas vs. gas-well-gas to answer westexas' inquiry regarding these two. And now I'm getting different data than what I did yesterday doing the exact same search. Here are the results yesterday vs. the results today:
Month Texas RRC Texas RRC Texas RRC Texas RRC (statewide) (statewide) (Barnett Shale) (Barnett Shale) 8-18-08 8-17-08 8-18-08 8-17-08 Jan 07 17.48 17.47 2.27 2.27 Feb 07 17.91 17.89 2.35 2.35 Mar 07 18.30 18.28 2.47 2.45 Apr 07 18.30 18.28 2.54 2.53 May 07 18.47 18.44 2.64 2.62 Jun 07 18.71 18.66 2.73 2.70 Jul 07 18.76 18.67 2.84 2.76 Aug 07 18.91 18.77 2.97 2.84 Sep 07 18.92 18.73 3.00 2.84 Oct 07 18.99 18.75 3.04 2.95 Nov 07 19.07 18.75 3.06 2.82 Dec 07 19.04 18.55 3.07 2.70 Jan 08 18.84 18.21 3.07 2.59 Feb 08 18.90 18.20 3.01 2.49 Mar 08 18.64 17.89 2.85 2.36 Apr 08 18.20 17.36 2.71 2.26 May 08 17.70 16.58 2.61 2.18Although this doesn't substantially alter the point I was trying to make, since the discrepencies between the EIA data and Texas RRC data are still quite large, it nevertheless raises some questions about what in the sam hill is going on! Were there some overnight or early-morning revisions in the Texas RRC data? I've always believed that, when it comes to oil and gas production data, the Texas RRC data was like a bible. Could I be mistaken?
I hope you don't think that that Hey-Zeus myth has any credibility. Especially the part about the Earth being formed in 7 days only 6k years BP. But, these days, one must become accustomed to "revisions" of reality in the political/economic realm of the New World Order.
E. Swanson
When I use some source for data, I always save it. On linux I can save easily as a PDF. I don't know if you can do that on Windows or not. But it is good practice for exactly this reason. Make sure to datestamp the file too on way or another.
cfm in Gray, ME
Fantastic Work! This does deserve a keypost. I do have multiple reasons for why a lie would have come out this summer and I will put them in another post.
Let us just assume for a moment that the EIA data is correct. Can we brainstorm the places this production could have come from and then try to figure out how to eliminate those sources? I propose this as "due diligence" just to be sure we did not miss something we will regret later.
Off shore was a prior suggestion. Does nat gas piped from the gulf get counted in the state totals? The EIA seems to have the gulf increases pulled out.
Associated (casing head gas) was another idea. Blowing off gas caps. (but it sounds like this gas is tracked separate so we know it was not this).
Can anyone suggest other possibilities?
The EIA breakdown pretty much deals with the offshore question. The breakdown can be found here:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/natural_gas/data_publications/eia914/gros...
I would be lying if I said what happened this morning--getting different results this morning vs. yesterday from the Texas RRC Oil and Gas Production Data Query--didn't disturb me. I thought I had everything down pretty pat, and then that happened!
That's the reason I immediately posted it. I don't know exactly what to make of it, but each person should be informed so that they can come to their own conclusions.
Have you considered giving the RRC a call and asking about the required reporting time frame for lease production? Since this data is legally required to be reported, I would have more faith in it (a clear threat of criminal proceedings by those who are getting royalties etc based on said data). So if the data can be revised, when is that no longer allowed?
The Texas RRC production data is not used to calculate royalty payments, I only used that as an example of how reliable I beleved the data to be. On my leases, I've never seen the RRC data differ from that used to calculate royalty payments, even though I do recall that on one lease, a month's production was about 30 days late getting posted one time. But State law does require the data to be reported, which gives failure to do so, timely and accurately, exposure to penalty of law.
I suppose I could call the Texas RRC to see what their unwritten policies are (I posted their written policy above). It's just that I have an aversion to these kinds of calls. You can wind up with someone who is kind and helpful, someone who is indifferent, or someone who's a total jerk. I try to avoid unpleasant situations.
The data revisions go back a more than a year. I agree it is pretty odd when only 30 days are allowed for reporting. And the amounts of natural gas are not trivial. I can't think of a reason they would be so delayed, except companies filing more than a year late. Staff shortage issues would impact just a few months. And incorrect data entry would be random up down, not mostly one direction. Something to watch and think about.
I am not normally a conspiracy theory person. But the Bush Administration has shown that it is willing to state outright lies at the very highest level. They buried the Hirsch report, the Climate change impact report, the treasonous Plame outing, authorization of torture, WMD, Iraq buying yellow cake, etc.
Why might the EIA be pushed to lie? Why now? (and why did the head of statistics resign?)
The natural gas industry is in a pinch. Drilling costs are right under prices. EROI is falling. Ever rising prices are needed to keep up this rate of drilling. Any fall back in prices and company profits will tumble.
Industrial uses of nat gas are collapsing as prices rise. The commercial and home heating markets are also in danger with large debt balances at the end of each winter.
The natural gas industry needs another market with a higher willingness to pay. Enter natural gas used for transportation. Gasoline trades at well over $25.00 per mmBTU while nat gas is one third that much at $8.00 per mmBTU. If they can get the marginal buyer of nat gas willing to pay $25.00, well, problem solved.
However that involves convincing Congress to push for CNG. And that means convincing people that there is plenty of natural gas. Which is pretty tricky to do when production has been flat/declining despite a huge drilling increase.
So the nat gas industry releases a new report showing how unconventional natural gas is booming. What they fail to mention is that the "boom" would not even reach half of todays maximum production.
Here is what they claim:
http://www.cleanskies.org/
http://www.cleanskies.org/upload/MediaFiles/Files/Downloads2/finalncippt...
Here is commentary on the Navigant Report from the EIA
So this new "abundance" is really only 43%. When did getting cut in half mean abundance? Clearly this is just spin.
Putting a real downer on this whole planned marketing campaign is the reality that Barnett is now in decline. Millions of dollars of advertising are already being spent. A decline would really sour the unconventional gas party. Need to cover that up, and quick.
So the EIA changes the data and even writes a special press release saying how great production is booming.
The Chairman of the American Clean Skies Foundation is Aubrey K. McClendon who is also CEO, Chairman and Co-Founder of Chesapeake Energy. The Feb 27 press release at the URL below describes a "Multi-Million Dollar Advocacy Campaign on Clean Energy and Natural Gas."
We may be seeing the results of that "Advocacy Campaign."
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/0...
IMHO the rules to the game are simply changing, changing fast.
In financials even faster.
It's war on a certain level.
The first casualty is truth, then morals, ethics, fairness, etc.
I am having trouble visualizing a point at which we learn the truth.
the only hard data, verifiable data point we have is price
over a long term horizon supply and demand will always win out
price will clear the market
all these other fudging shenanigans won't matter
Thanks for that explanation as to the question of "why" and "why now."
I had previously considered the reason articulated upthread by westexas, the influence-the-Novermber-election one:
and especially since I remember reading somewhere something to the effect that "when the bottom fell out of natural gas prices, it was impossible to defend oil prices."
My preferred explanation, however, was it was oil & gas company executives trying to pump the price of their companies' stocks, making it seem like they had all this upside potential in the offing. The internal inconsistency in that explanation is that the perceived "abundance" of natural gas is bound to drive down prices, hurting those companies' short-term profits and thus their share price.
But I had never heard your explanation before. It makes perfect sense, especially seeing it documented so well.
It may very well be there are a number of different groups involved in promoting the myth, each with different reasons and agendas. This is what happened with the proponents of the Iraq war--armaments suppliers wanting to sell their wares, major oil companies wanting access to the oil, the right-wing Jews convinced they were defending Israel, the neo-cons wanting to promote their ideology, Iraqui expatriots thinking they could return to Iraq as rulers, etc.
Just an observation: individual companies do not care about EROEI, they care about profit(margins), but society as a whole (should) care about EROEI. Governments (assuming they are representative of society) are stronger than companies because they determine the legislative/tax framework that energy companies operate within.
Perhaps that is one of the explanations behind the trend towards nationalizations of resource(companies)?
Down South,
Sorry I’m still relatively new here & don’t want to step on any TOD procedures or conventions, but is it possible to make this a key post as a lot hangs on the credibility of EIA data not least the 2005 peak.
Yep, I picture the commodities traders reading this thread, then swigging bigtime from the Mallox bottle. If the EIA data is politically polluted, or just piss-poor from bad collection methods: then someone is consistently getting screwed on the trading markets by those with access to more accurate details. Not much fun if you are trying to hedge crude futures to save/extend an industry or corporation with lots of careers on the line [airlines, for example]. Reminds me of the ending of the Dan Ackroyed/Eddie Murphy film, 'Trading Places'.
A request to all those who use the newfangled "preformatted text" method of posting tables: please make them as narrow as possible, otherwise some of us cannot see the rightmost part of the table. Depending on ones screen resolution, level of nesting of comments, etc, there may not be any way to make the column wider.
And to TOD technical gurus: if there is a way to make the main text column wider, especially when "zoomed in" in the browser, at the expense of the width of the columns on the left and right (which are blank once one scrolls well down into the page, a pure waste of screen area!), I would be grateful.
If you have a request involving site design, e-mail SuperG. I don't think he reads the DrumBeat very often.
If you have an older screen or a smaller screen (like 1024 pixels wide these days) it is a pain to waste all of that space in the left and right columns. Here is a workaround I use when reading through a long DrumBeat on my "old" laptop (Compaq Armada M700).
1. Open the DrumBeat in Firefox version 3
2. Open the Web Developer add-on menu for Firefox (I have version 1.1.5, this is a free download)
3. Select the CSS > Edit CSS menu option
4. Switch to the base.css tab of the CSS window
5. Locate the body CSS config in the base.css tab and change the width to something like this:
body {
min-width: 1374px; /* 2x (LC fullwidth + CC padding) + RC fullwidth */
}
The min-width of 1374px works for my 1024 pixel-wide screen. Basically, I think you could add 350 to the physical width of your display. If you had 800 pixels across, then the number for min-width is 1150.
As you edit, the width of the center column of the Drumbeat will expand to nearly full screen on you 1024 pixel-wide display. You may need to center the middle column by adjusting the horizontal scroll bar that appears when you edit base.css.
6. Minimize the CSS window vertically, don't close it or Firefox will forget what you just did.
7. Now scroll vertically using the entire width of your display for the Drumbeat content. Note that if you reload the page you will need to reapply the edit to base.css.
I am sure that somebody could rig up some Javascript code in GreaseMonkey to do this automatically for Firefox???
In Firefox,
View=>Page Style=>No style
is also possible to temporarily fill the page width.
What is troubling in the Barnett Shale data is that rates declined since October of last year when natural gas prices were rising, and one would expect producers to produce more in a rising pricing environment…
Could it be that the smart money has already found the stinking fish? When I have a look at Chesapeaks share price... They are around 45$. Compared with 75$ just some 4 months back. That's a whopping 40% minus.
euro,
I'm not sure Chesapeake stock is down a whole lot more than that of other domestic independent oil and gas producers. There are very few of them that aren't in the same boat.
That said, here's a repeat of a post from another thread that I think is germane:
I saw that too in one of the World Oil articles you linked. If I'm not mistaken the source was Chesapeake Energy. It's an example of the type of perfidy of which these corporations are capable.
That was back in July 2007 when Chesapeake made that claim--that it had gas production choked back waiting for a better price. The reason they put out this type of false information is so stockholders won't get wind of just how bad things really are. (Bank executives, afterall, aren't the only executives who lie.) I've often said that "resource plays" are the oil industry's answer to "subprime loans." Because of the nature of the production curve, they provide huge immediate profits but, if gas prices don't go up, the long-range profits are pretty grim.
I believe if one does a little research he will find out that Chesapeake's claim that it had production choked back awaiting a price increase was belied by the derivitavie positons it held at the time. You don't commit to sell future production at today's price if you're waiting for prices to go up. But more condemning is its production history:
Again, from the Texas Railroad Commission, statewide monthly gas well gas production for Chesapeake Operating:
and companywide production from Chesapeake quarterly reports:
If Chesapeake indeed had its production choked back in July 07 waiting for a better price, then why didn't it unchoke it when prices soared during Q1 08 and Q2 08? If it had all this production held back, one would have expected to see a huge surge of production beginning in Q1 08. But that surge never happened.
I'm sure the Chesapeake executive that made that claim in July 07 never dreamed that natural gas prices would almost double in the next year.
I suspect that Chesapeake, as well as many other domestice oil and gas producers, may be on the verge of experiencing Peak production.
Great post DS. Not that it couldn't happen but in 33 years I've never seen an operator hold back production waiting on higher prices. This would be even less likely in the resource plays. As you point out the steep decline rates are key. Economic analysis of these plays demand a rapid payout to generate an adequate rate of return. Holding back rate would greatly damage the ROI. And I agree with your assessment of PG being close for many of the resource players. The more high decline rate wells they put on the more they need to drill to avoid a y-o-y decrease in assets volume. I’ve posted elsewhere about a Texas public independent (UPRC) that was a poster child for this sort of corporate suicide over 30 years ago. They drilled over 600 very successful oil wells in a resource play at the time. When they ran out of locations to drill their reserve decline was so quick that they never could recover and eventually were sold for scrap.
Some of the big players, like XTO, are hitting the acquisition fast and hard. If you can’t drill fast enough to prevent corporate PG then you can buy the reserves in the ground to keep the reserve base growing. But that road only runs so long too.
I've got 34 years in the business and I too have never seen any operator intentionally hold back production waiting for a better price.
As you point out, the entire oilfield culture is geared towards doing things as quickly as possible. Everybody wants everything done yesterday. Those who work in the industry know that one is under constant pressure, constant stress, not only to get new wells on production as soon as possible, but to keep them producing at maximum rates thereafter. It's not unlike fighting a war:
We bust our butts every day trying to come up with better completion and stimulation techniques soley for the purpose of accelerating production, and then we're going to intentionally choke back production?
When donkeys fly!
Fantastic post.
SailDog one thing I would like to add is that Gulf Coast injections and storage has been miserable all year and this is the producing region. It fits well with your RailRoad commission numbers.
Long time reader, first time poster.
Regarding the difference between EIA and Texas RRC: Could it be that the EIA is trying to forecast where the Texas RRC number will end up? Reading the EIA methodology, they use current data and try to estimate what future changes will be made to the data. If you look at the difference between RRC and EIA, it is biggest in near months and get smaller the more you go into the past. With time, the 2 series should converge if the EIA forecasting model works.
wow ! that is a bobmshell. as far as i know, this is a standard method the govt uses to collect data. i'm not so sure it is manipulation as much as a lousy model, i wouldnt put manipulation past this administration though.
if i read the govt's reasoning correctly, the individual state's data is too late and not accurate enough ? apparently the govt thinks it is ok to use bogus data as long as it is quick ?
cowboys, often shoot from the hip, or so i have heard.
wyoming data is available here:
http://wogcc.state.wy.us/
but the statewide data is currently not available. for all of 2007, wyoming produced 2.254 tcf. can anyone confirm if wyoming data is reported correctly by the eia ?
You manipulate precisely by creating a lousy model--a la the inflation figures.
When I look at the EIA state data, it isn't just that Texas is increasing fairly rapidly. There are other states that are also increasing rapidly - Wyoming and Other States. I can understand Wyoming and Other States increasing because of the increasing production of unconventional. I agree that Texas does look strange.
I am going to try to contact someone at the EIA to see if I can get an explanation.
If your concerns have a basis in reality, i.e. they are cooking the books, it may be instructive to note it was last June - August that the big reports of Peak Oil finally started hitting the mainstream.
This administration has lied about everything, almost literally, so SailDog may well be right.
Cheers
I did send an e-mail to EIA. I will follow up with a phone call shortly.
My first hypothesis is that the problem is simply an error, rather than conscious manipulation of the numbers. EIA is very underfunded. EIA doesn't have the staff to look into numbers that look "funny", and some of the staff is new and might not even recognize a funny number. There are a lot of people working at EIA who have been there since the agency was started, and are now reaching retirement. When these people leave, there can be big gaps in knowledge levels.
The omnipotence government, at least in my experience, is myth.
- R. J. Hanlon
I talked to a woman at the Texas Railroad Commission this morning. Their statistics for recent months are understated by some unknown amount because production has been growing so rapidly on Barnett Shale that they have not been able to keep up with processing of various paperwork. Until the paperwork gets into the system, the natural gas production cannot get into the system either.
Because of this, it looks to me as though at least part of the problem is with the Texas Railroad Commission data. I have sent e-mails to both the Texas RRC and EIA. I'll see how much more I can figure out.
Thank you Gail!
Did the woman shed any light on why substantial revisions to RRC data go back more than a year? I can understand being behind on the entries and the latest few months ending up short, but it surprises me that the revisions go back so far.
Nice, Gail. It would be a tiny relief to know the tentacles of BuCheney are not everywhere.
Cheers