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xironman on August 26, 2008 - 9:45am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Cruel of the GDFL to put it on the gulf coast's doorstep on August 31 http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfdltc2.cgi?time=2008082606-gustav07l&fie.... Look at the size of that cat 4 wind field. In the infinitesimally small case that this verifies they would need to start evac on Friday night.

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mcgowanmc on August 26, 2008 - 10:10am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

looks like Camille to me.

Meanwhile,

Your Corps at work:

Trees on river levee at risk of removal
by Sheila Grissett, The Times-Picayune
Friday July 25, 2008, 8:51 PM
JOHN McCUSKER / THE TIMES-PICAYUNE

The Army Corps of Engineers has completed a tree inventory along 512 miles of Mississippi River levee in southeast Louisiana as a first step toward determining which ones must be removed to ensure access for inspections and emergencies.

But there is no federal money to remove trees from the river levee, so local levee districts will have to pay for the work.

"It's unfortunate that it all has to fall on them, but we'll be there for them with technical assistance, " Powell said.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/trees_on_river_levee_at_risk_...

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westexas on August 26, 2008 - 10:14am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I think that the estimated winds for the Galveston Hurricane were only about 120 mph, versus 190 for Camille.

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Ben on August 26, 2008 - 10:29am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

From what I remember, it was the storm surge / flooding / fires (many buildings made of wood) that killed most in Galveston; that and the bridge off island went before anybody thought it would be a bad storm.

Things were different then. For example, the highest point on the island was less than 9 feet above sea level. The storm surge was almost 16 feet.

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mcgowanmc on August 26, 2008 - 10:33am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Camille's Eye went right over my school.

Brother Allen(I think) told me the anemometer blew off the roof at 210.

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mcgowanmc on August 26, 2008 - 10:29am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Message to Corps:

Spend less time at the River Ridge Country Club
and their trees.

spend more time at the 17th St Canal painting those rusting pipes:

"The two areas highlighted in red are what I'm interested in.

The top area shows...

duct tape.

The bottom area shows...

Rope suspending hoses which convey hydraulic fluid to and from the pumps. Not steel, but rope. I hope those knots are tied tight.

My guess on the reason those ropes are there? Two winters ago, the Corps pulled the pumps to install extended piping on them which moved the previously submerged hose connections out of the water (to prevent further rusting of the fittings as captured in the pictures above). They probably decided to reuse the same hoses.

Before, those hoses ran from the deck above down to fittings which were underwater. With the extended piping, there was a shorter distance between the pipe on the deck and the new connections on the pumps. But they still had the old hoses, which were now too long and heavy, and they needed to make sure the hoses were not pulling down on the new fittings. So they roped them up. Hardly the best solution, and one has to wonder how well the ropes will hold up in extended storm conditions with the pumps running for eight or twelve hours."

The above from Update 6/12/08.

So to recap:

All hydraulic piping/bolts(non stainless steel) Corps installed is unpainted. And duct tape/rope is
being used to hold them together.

http://fixthepumps.blogspot.com/2007/04/more-on-pipes-and-rust.html

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