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BOP on August 31, 2008 - 9:35am Permalink | Subthread | Comments top

the Arctic icecap may now have entered a "death spiral".



And the Canadian PM wants to spend 100 million to fund a government search for more oil and gas in the region.


Harper is one of those folks who believes "a reality based environment" is beyond contempt. Real men make their own reality.

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tstreet on August 31, 2008 - 10:08am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

If the ice cap is, for all practical purposes, gone, the meme that the ice caps are melting will no longer have any power to convince people and nations that their actions make any difference.

Maybe when her husband can no longer engage in those snow machine races, Sarah Palin will get the message. But most likely not.

We are frogs in warming water and the younger frogs have no frame of reference and no visceral understanding of the change.

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Ron Broberg on August 31, 2008 - 11:35am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

You underestimate the power of denial.

While melting ice caps and thawing tundra have no doubt been noticed in Alaska, deniers such as Gov Palin just state 'its all natural.' And a quick tour of some denier sites yesterday indicate that the 'its cooling' meme is still going strong.

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rainsong on August 31, 2008 - 4:00pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

They have already discovered billions of barrels of oil equivalent in the Sverdrup Basin of teh Canadian Arctic the last time they went to explore the Arctic in the 1970's. Seems that ice breaker LNG tankers have not yet made their way to the Arctic Islands and gas-to-liquids plants might not be easily served by ice breaker tankers in the middle of winter. So far they have not yet completed natural gas pipelines to Alaska or the Mackenzie Delta. There may be about 20 billion barrels of heavy oil on the Alaskan North Slope and more tar sands in the Canadian Arctic Islands. Plans to use SAGD to recover heavy oil near Prudhoe have been discussed.

I read that Greenland is finding the warming to its advantage.

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CSS on August 31, 2008 - 6:22pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Every time I read about stuff like this, I hear the music from "The Day After Tomorrow".

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