"when peak oil should have been."

I don't get this memmel ? It sounds like what I would expect from Danny Boy "Jerkin" Yergin. But CERA's pRojeCTions were based on BAU + Technology saving the day.

The past few weeks look like RIP for "BAU."

This Current Stunt in the markets looks like one Major Mileston for Bakhtiari's T1 Phase of Transition.

''The problem is that we now are in 'Post-Peak' mode, and that none of [the pre-peak assumptions] above applies anymore.

'But even during that rather benign T1, the unexpected might become the rule and the orderly 'Pre-Peak' rapidly give way to some chaotic 'Post-Peak.'"

http://www.moneyweek.com/investments/commodities/why-we-must-take-peak-o...

I'm predicting a war with Iran in the near future. These market moves will have a negative impact on the oil industry and future projects well beyond the current price decline. Even if I'm wrong about war with Iran in the short term in the longer term the chance of war in the world just went up 1000% fold.

These above ground events and others will serve to disrupt supply and to some extent demand over the coming years masking the geological potential production. In many cases producible oil will be left in the ground because of war.

This is what I mean by we will never know. We may never pump oil at anything like the current rate literally any day now. And we may never return to the point that we ever again extract oil at its maximum rate.

In my opinion these above ground factors have probably resulted in and effective peak geologic or not I doubt we ever pump as much oil going forward as we are right now. But on the same hand we will never know when the real i.e geologic peak happened.

These above ground events and others will serve to disrupt supply and to some extent demand over the coming years masking the geological potential production. In many cases producible oil will be left in the ground because of war.

This is the key point, imo. I've always maintained that once Peak Oil became an established reality, it would be the geopolitical environment - in reaction to that reality - that would determine the fate of the industrialized world.

It will be the moves that nations make which will ascertain how the remaining supply of oil will be dispensed, not the total quantity of recoverable oil itself. Thus, PO, though a highly significant factor in the coming demise of this global society, will not be the determinative one. When all is said and done, significant amounts of oil will forever lie untouched, as mankind starts all over again.

I understand the idea of a chemical phase transition but struggle to map this to time periods -does Bakhtiari's 'Transition' indicate a brief period of economic dislocation as we move between periods or does it refer to the periods between these dislocations?

E.g. if transition 'T1' is now (2008) and T2 is in -say- 2012 then what is 2005-2007, 2009-2011 refered to as? (or does it mean T1=upto 2008, T2=2008-2011, etc.)

[Remember that he thinks the transition periods relate to shifts of ever increasing decline rate and the shockwaves that this will cause...]

Nick.

Yes, the late, great Dr. Bakhtiari's Transition was based on the timing of peak and subsequent increasing rates of decline.

The exact timing for each phase was left vague, but each refers to a period in oil production history. The economic and geopolitical dislocations occuring would be symptoms of the "phase change" taking place.

Thermodynamic phase transtions might work pretty well as an anology- from ~2005 through the present we've been at Peak Production, or the Melting Point... and as we have been witnessing, our world economy and geopolitics are Melting.

I wonder what the period covering the Boiling Point will be like.