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There seem to be some unpleasant intellectual property issues with vanadium, else surely more than a handful of companies directly tied to the original invention would be producing units?
On the one hand, I've seen low vanadium electrolyte costs estimated for large volumes, like $50 to $150 per kwh of capacity. On the other hand, I hear of very high system costs, and limited storage. For the example you state, it would seem to be a simple and cost-effective matter to just add a lot more vanadium flow storage, yet that seems not to be considered.
Volumes of scale and process refinement could likely help, but that requires some outside money and intellectual property access.
Here are vendor-stated costs for the vanadium battery:
Unfortunately, they say this is a "target" based on volume manufacturing and a 2x sale-price mark-up. I don't know of many companies that survive on 2x for relatively high-tech products while supporting an engineering wing, so those numbers are probably a long time coming.
Note that time honoured lead-acid starter batteries for cars work out about $200 per kwh, albeit shallow draw and clunky. But no pumps, easy recycling.
The addition of capacitors to standard lead acid batteries together with some over-capacity transforms the lifespan of lead acid, as it is deep discharge which damages them:
http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2008/01/ultracapacitor-battery-hybrid-elec...