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flickervertigo on November 5, 2008 - 10:58am

occam's razor dictates that people who said they wanted "a new pearl harbor" must have had a motive for making their "new pearl harbor" happen, especially in view of the fact that, shortly afterward, they were installed into positions from which they could make their "new pearl harbor" happen, and shortly after that, their "new pearl harbor" did happen.

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Cornucopia on November 5, 2008 - 3:37pm

Actually, this just goes to show that you are ignorant and havn't looked up things for yourself. You just buy whatever the conspirac loonies write.

If you've actually read the report from New American Century, you would know that the Pearl Harbour-quote is taken out of context, and is just mentioned in a passing statement.

Conspiracy theorists are "reaching", and trying to make connections that simply aren't there.

The report is available for reading at

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

"A transformation strategy that solely
pursued capabilities for projecting force
from the United States, for example, and
sacrificed forward basing and presence,
would be at odds with larger American
policy goals and would trouble American
allies.

Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a
new Pearl Harbor. "

From this conspiracy theories deduce a proof that the writers of this 78 page report planned and executed the 9/11 atrocities. From a single sentence, in a report that is about something completely different.

And this level of standard is typical for all conspiracy "proofs". Reaching.

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flickervertigo on November 5, 2008 - 3:46pm

ah.

so you're saying that these guys went to all the trouble to write a 78-page wish list, and didnt want to implement it as soon as possible?

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flickervertigo on November 5, 2008 - 4:14pm

want to comment on the fact that the PNAC signatories were installed into positions to make their "new pearl harbor" happen by an election recount in a state governed by the brother of the president-elect?

want to comment on the fact that that brother, jeb bush, is a PNAC signatory?

want to comment on the fact that cheney made a speech in 1999 showing he's perfectly aware of peak oil?

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flickervertigo on November 5, 2008 - 5:31pm

oded yinon in 1982 recommends balkanizing muslim states, particularly iraq.

1992, paul WOLFOWITZ and scooter LIBBY, cheney's convicted ex-chief of staff, produce a defense policy guidance paper. the paper was the first generation of what was to become PNAC and later official US foreign policy, and recommended attacking iraq. the paper was leaked to the new york times, and public outcry was such that wolfowitz's paper was disowned and revised.

1996, richard PERLE and some of the usual likud israeli american suspects write a paper for bibi NETANYAHU calling for the occupation of iraq

1997, PERLE forms PNAC with nominal founders robert KAGAN and bill KRISTOL, and all the usual likud suspects

september 2000, PNAC issues a document, "rebuilding america's defenses", calling for wars to control the oil in the middle east and central asia. the document says that these wars will be slow to materialize without a new pearl harbor to mobilize america

september 2001, PNAC's "new pearl harbor" materializes in the form of four hijacked airliners

september 2002, PNAC's "rebuilding america's defenses", the document that called for the "new pearl harbor", is adopted by the bunnypants administration as its National Security Strategy, in some cases, verbatim.

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flickervertigo on November 5, 2008 - 5:28pm

...calling for wars to control the oil in the middle east and central asia...

i admit that i'm uneasy with that statement... i cant recall seeing anywhere in the PNAC documents an explicit call for "wars for oil".

on the other hand, it doesnt take very good eyesight to read between the lines, especially once you look at the checkerboard and see how the pieces are being moved.

it's just too damn bad that russians play chess, and chinese play go.

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