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Kiashu,
Considering that the previous government did nothing for 11 years, I would call signing Kyoto, commissioning the Garnaut report, treasury modeling of a carbon trading scheme, setting a target date to start; a good start for the first 11 months. Meanwhile the opposition is saying don't do anything, wait for everyone else to act first!
They haven't done anything.
- signing Kyoto - paper and words
- commissioning the Garnaut report - asking someone else for paper and words
- treasury modeling of a carbon trading scheme - more paper and words
- setting a target date to start - and more paper and words
Nothing has been done, only paper printed on and words spoken.
"Bugger all" is a great improvement on "doing harm". But it's not that impressive. A few years ago the National Australia Bank had a couple of currency arbitrage dealers get out of hand and lose the bank $400 million or so. I wrote a letter applying for their job. I said,
"I promise to do nothing. I will just surf the net and play games and gossip with my workmates all day. By doing nothing, I shall make NAB exactly $0. This will be a $400 million improvement on last financial year's performance."
Amazingly, they didn't reply and offer me the job, because though doing nothing is an improvement on doing harm, most of us are looking for someone who can do good.
Kiashu,
By your criteria, no government ever does anything, they just pass bills, issue directives on pieces of paper or speak words.
Last year the NAB made a profit of $AUD 4 billion, mind you, they didn't do anything to earn that, they just made loans shuffled electrons and pieces of paper. I guess the people they did hire did a lot more than nothing!
What happened to those real workers that used to lean on shovels and dig holes at the side of the road, or peasant farmers that hand dig and plant fields; replaced by bludgers pressing a few buttons or typing instructions on a key-board. Can't understand why our standard of living is higher than most African countries, where fewer can read pieces of paper.
Absolutely. But their currency arbitrage dealers lost $400 million, thus doing worse than nothing. I offered to improve on that, but they weren't interested.
Likewise, by doing nothing, Rudd has improved on Howard. But we're still not very interested.
Not at all. Making legislation or regulation to prohibit, discourage, encourage or mandate certain behaviour is action. Reducing taxes or spending revenue to subsidise what they want to encourage, or taxing and tariffing what they want to discourage, that also is action.
Signing treaties and commissioning studies and writing dates on calendars is not actually doing anything. It's just a vague promise to maybe do something sometime in the future, perhaps if nothing else comes up, maybe, I s'pose.
Our standard of living is high for two reasons: cheap fossil fuels, and cheap Third World labour.
Cheap fossil fuels let us have machinery run cheaply, which lets us produce a lot of food and raw materials cheaply - the $1 loaf of bread, the $2.50 slab of steak, the 10c brick. Cheap Third World labour lets us have cheap manufactured goods - the $5 t-shirt, the $20 pair of jeans, the $500 computer, the $50 DVD player. Because fossil fuels and Third World labour are cheap, our minimum wage goes a long way.
Give us $500/bbl oil, $1,500/tonne coal, and Chinese working for $150 a day instead of $150/month, and our minimum wage starts looking pretty crappy - even the accountant on $100,000 will have to start making some choices.
Our wealth has little or nothing to do with the amount of words we print on paper or speak.