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Source1 definitely says theres over 10 gallons/ton in the green river formation which means it'd be at least 7x the oil return you decided to stick with for your entire comment, which is still 1/4 of the average you claimed.
All I'm saying is even when your facts are right, perpetuating a dogma by using extremes is a terrible thing to do. I don't know about everyone else, but I'm tired of getting my facts with a side of doom (or cornucopian bs).
1: http://fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/publications/Pubs-NPR/40010-3...
On page 185 of the third edition of Resources of the Earth by James R. Craig et al., they quote the Green River shale as giving no more than "1 to 15 gallons of oil per metric tons... hence, their extraction for oil is not feasible for the foreseeable future."
Additionally, you misrepresented the intent of my comment. Here, I'll quote it for you again since you seem to have missed it:
What I said was that 1 gallon per ton is too low "for sure". I'm not entirely certain about the higher values, so I didn't say anything, which you incorrectly assumed I did. According to the above reference, even 15 gallons per ton waste rock is too low.
Finally, I have serious doubts about the objectivity of your reference -- it's an oil and gas trade magazine. I'm not entirely sure it's wrong, that's why in my comment I said, "I don't think producing that oil shale is going to turn out to be a very good idea" instead of "I know that producing oil shale isn't going to turn out to be a very good idea."
First and formost, I apologize for being rude. Once you read so much doomer crud you start to see it in everything. I was annoyed with the repeated one barrell reference, and unjustly rebutted your opinion.