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conservationist on January 11, 2009 - 8:28pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Better tell NOAA to revise their data then:

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/20090108_decemberstats.html

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Peter on January 12, 2009 - 7:03pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Hello Conservationist,

The UK link is for the **full* northern hemisphere. Your NOAA link is just for the lower 48 states. It is very possible due to major circulations such as El Nino for one section of the northern hemisphere to be warmer than the rest of the hemisphere.

The Jet Stream can ride along the northern US border blocking cold air intrusion into the US while making Canada colder than normal. That fact does not show up in the NOAA statistics.

You have to compare apples to apples. Global Climate change is about the whole world.

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conservationist on January 12, 2009 - 8:13pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Yes you correct, that link was just for the US. Another interesting fact is that 1934 was the warmest year on record for the US, not 2005. So here we are in 2008 with cooler temperatures than 1934 - even with all the CO2 that has been generated since then.

Globally, at least 4 sets of data show a cooling trend over the last 10 years. Links to the data are on this site:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/02/19/january-2008-4-sources-say-globall...

I for one, do not see how CO2 could be responsible for the Earth's warming. Considering so much CO2 has been added over the last 10 years, yet temperatures have been trending downward.

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dohboi on January 13, 2009 - 1:09am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

So you refuse to address any, even one teenee weenee one, of my points. That means you concede them and accept that there is AGW and it is very serious. Well, I'm glad we're in agreement on that.

If you think that short term data on one part of the globe prove anything definitive about global data, you are beyond hope and help.

And of course you are cherry picking the one outlier year, 1998, to try to make some other inane point.

I'm done feeding this troll.

Grow a brain. Grow a conscience. Introduce them to each other. Then get back to me.

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conservationist on January 13, 2009 - 1:39am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Sure you want everyone to be in agreement with your AGW nonsense. That's the propagandist's dream. Get everyone to "believe". Better wake up and smell the coffee. Kyoto is proving to be a disaster, you've lost the left wing media, AND TEMPERATURES KEEP GETTING COLDER!

Must be hard to attract new "believers" these days.

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pragma on January 13, 2009 - 2:26am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

{chuckle}

No offense dohboi, but you were warned.

A valiant effort nonetheless.

Cheers,

Bob

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dohboi on January 15, 2009 - 3:00pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Indeed I was. No more troll feeding from me.

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