Think about regular Personal Computer. Creation of computer is very energy-hungry process but they can work for 50 years not for 3-5 years like they do now! At least chips are designed with 50 years MTBF time - and everything else can be repaired.

The 50 year MTBF is a number quoted for the older and much thicker traced chips and based on migration of dopant. Todays chips are thinner and dopant migration should be a life shortener.

Not to mention thinner traces are more ESD sensitive - clean room attention to the machine would make 'em last longer. not many PC's are in clean room environment.

Oh, and with the modern boards - exactly how will you trouble shoot the bad components? JTAG test points and a bed of nails test rigs are not common - multiply by the number of different consumer electronics - and now its a real troubleshooting nightmare. Not to mention that some of the smaller components on a board may not be made 5-10 years out from the original date. Or in a different package format so someone would have to build an adapter.

(the last chip level repair I did was soldering a axle lead diode in place of a surface mount of the same type to get a hard drive up and running to get customer data off - 9 years ago)

I do not think the current consumer electronics can last 50 years but it ought to be possible to build it to last for manny decades and be much easier to repair. There is for instance a vast potential for standardizing the IC:s.

Correct think about engineering for different constraints. Not exactly our current crop of PC's.

Even with off the shelf components esp ARM core processors one could readily build a robust low energy information appliance.

Its really the monitors that are the biggest problem and this technology is advancing rapidly.

Making some reasonable assumptions about advancement in monitor techology.

http://www.i4u.com/article12205.html

And storage:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_drive

I think that we basically have the technology practically off the shelf to develop reliable PC's.

If you then consider a few years of development using new energy and a bit later lifetime constraints then
PC's that readily last 10 years or more are easily doable.

As far as processing power if your primarily using a PC as a information appliance then you really don't need more then we have today if your doing computation then its a different problem solved in a different manner and in general you would want to use some sort of client/server framework. The current focus on processing in the PC itself has far more to do with limitations of the Windows operating system not hardware.

You forget the real limits that these people will face : the human body. And, as neighboring Rwanda has demonstrated, those limits are quite unforgiving.

Everything else was done by hand, using ZERO energy.

Does the human body use "zero" energy ? Well let's take a look at the efficiency. Let's estimate that plant production from sunlight is less than 2% efficient. Let's disregard that meat production from plants is less than 0.02% efficient. Let's forget that our own systems are only about 2% efficient (and that's only if you count every action, including sleep, getting sick and masturbating as "useful work", otherwise you don't even want to think about the efficiency of the human body).

How much energy does it require to keep a human body merely alive ? The main "cost" of a human body is the fact that we're warmblooded, that we can never, ever, lower the rate of energy consumption in our organs more than a few tenths of percents. Staying alive on the North Pole therefore requires much, much more than staying alive on the equator. Kenya is a benefactor of this effect, and fortunate in this regard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_metabolic_rate#Animal_BMR

The energy requirement of the human body is 16 kilocalories per day per pound. I'm about 135 pounds, so that means 2160 kilocalories per day. (yes the wikipedia article is wrong, wikipedia's always at best inaccurate). That means I'm, at total rest, am about 2 incandescent light bulbs.

But that's not the amount of sunlight energy it takes to keep me alive. Let's measure this against total amount of incoming sunlight. Arable land is about 10% of all land, which is about 1/3rd of the planet. Meaning we can actually use 3% of incoming sunlight. I eat about 1/10th meat and 9/10th plants. That means 216 kcal / 0.02% / 2% / 3% + 9/10 * 2160 kcal / 2% / 3%. This number does NOT include transport, so it is only valid for subsistence farmers, who do not use any fertilizer, machines or anything. Let's assume getting food to your average urban dweller is 10% efficient, and producing it using industrial agriculture is another times 10% efficient.

So how much sunlight does this "ZERO" energy usage require ? 87 323 566.7 watts per subsistence farmer. 8.7 billion watts per city dweller. Every single person on this site, JUST TO KEEP EM BREATHING requires 8.7 BILLION watts of sunlight to be sent to earth. I'm sure getting anyone of them to build a house makes 9 billion out of it. Btw : this is just breathing, nothing more. Not tv, no computer, and certainly no internet or cell phones.

That's only zero energy expenditure if your middle name is Hussein, spending other people's energy.

Thank God, there is sunshine then, 'ey?!

Of course, I should have made more clear what I meant by 'ZERO energy' - I was referring to electricity or gasoline or anything really that powers any kind of machinery (as none was used bar a certain saw once - which was a MAJOR event, by the way). Nor is there a lot of machinery in use on most construction sites here (except where Chinese or Europeans build roads, using Chinese or European 'labor' in operating this machinery).

So, thank you for pointing that out.

On the other hand, I can assure you that whatever most Kenyans base their daily calorie intake on, it is derived from food which, again, is produced with extremly little use of conventional (or unconventional) energy input (except, of course, that of human workforce, and nature's elements).

What I was trying to say - and I stand by this completely, because I have not only seen it in reality, I also live it when there, is that whatever the 'carbon-derived energy footprint' of Kenyans is in going about their daily lives and businesses, is much, much, MUCH less than what we consider neseccary to 'have a life worth living' here.

What I was trying to say is that life can absolutely be 'happy,' 'worth living,' 'fulfiling,' and, above all, 'survivable,' if one has to get by with much, much, MUCH less input of oil, natural gas, nuclear power, etc., etc. than what we consider to be the measure of all things.

My middle name is not Hussein. And I approve of this reply.

Um, ok, well what if we made people turn cranks on generators to power a lightbulb, would the lightbulb then be powered using 'ZERO energy'? Electricity is not part of some other world unconnected to our own, energy is energy, however we choose to use it.

p.s. a machine is any device that uses energy to perform some activity, I would bet good money that there is a great deal of machinery on any kenyan construction site (e.g. winches, levers, concrete mixers, shovels etc.), but that it is mostly powered by humans, who are powered by stored chemical energy, which is derived from sunlight.

"Thank God, there is sunshine then, 'ey?!"

There is only enough sunshine to have about 100 million city dwellers, and only enough sunshine for about 10 billion subsistence farmers (in a 100% efficient society). Since those people you described are certainly not fertilization-free subsistence farmers living in small villages, not having any external input whatsoever, you can't even have the current population of Kenia survive on less than 50% of ALL landmass.

Since kenya has about 1/300th of the total landmass, this means it can support, with the lifestyle you describe about 1/150th of it's population. But they're close to the equator, and that makes it a bit easier to survive than average. So let's say 1/100 th of it's current population can be sustainably supported.

So unless fusion power is discovered, or we learn to create food without involving plants and certainly without involving animals, out of every 100 kenyans 99 will be dead on 1/1/2100, assuming they can somehow defend their borders during the contraction. If they don't, barely any will survive.

That's the problem with the "green" and "sustainable" lifestyle : it can support, very optimistically nearly 1 billion people. That means that if the 2050 date for the exhaustion of oil is correct, birth control is not nearly sufficient to avert disaster. If that date is correct for the energy contraction, massive genocide is a certainty.

That obviously leads one inexorably to the conclusion that "sustainability" is a death sentence for at least 80% of all humans worldwide. Perhaps we should ask the green parties who they intend to kill.

That is not even a bit true, oelewapperke.

http://www.solar-thermie.org/hintergruende/documents/cspnow.pdf

go to the top of page 6 to see the area required to supply all of the world's electricity needs at 2050 with this one solar energy conversion technology. With half as much again most vehicles can be powered electrically. No oil necessary at all.

As an example I am part of a team building the Mesh Potato - a Wireless router that you can plug a phone into. Your Mesh Potato connects via wireless to the guys down the street and so on to form a mesh network for Village Telephony. No cell phone towers, no land lines, no phones companies and just a few watts of power.

Anyway the point I am trying to make is that we are engineering the Mesh Potato to last in developing world conditions - it will be weatherproof, low power, and robust against lightning and mis-use (like 240VAC into a 12VDC input). It is possible to make IT equipment that is robust, long lasting, low power and survive some infrastructure failure (like a centralised cell/telephone network going down). If our IT lasts a long time it will only take modest resources to build and maintain it.

Another good example is the One Laptop per Child - a robust laptop that can be broken down and have major components replaced with one screwdriver. It even includes spare screws.

It's our choice to build things that last.

Everything that is manufactured now is produced using current technologies. If there is an actual economic/industrial/population crash, as opposed to a decline or contraction, and we imagine the survivors returning to subsistence farming, we have to imagine that the highly complex production lines will also crash. You can't make a few computers or cell phones or photovoltaic cells on a cottage industry scale - this fairly obvious. But the same highly complex manufacturing processes are in place for making even simple essential tools.

In our imagined subsistence farming future we will need saws for pruning trees. Almost all saws are made by computer-controlled production lines - wonderfully sharp, wonderfully cheap, hard-point steel teeth which are discarded when blunt. Our houses will need windows (made of wood). How will we fell the trees, process the timber, do the joinery? We will need spades and mattocks to work the soil. We will need boxes and buckets to carry and store things. How will they be made? And when our work is done we might want to make some nice non-electric music on violins and guitars. Where will we buy our strings? And if we visit neighbours on our bicycles, where will we buy replacement tyres, chains, gears?

Perhaps we think we can re-invent long lost 18th or 19th or 20th century techniques? Olduvai beckons, I fear, the period of transition involving scavenging stuff from the present era, prior to eventual disappearance of technology.

Remember that night,that starry night
Banana moon up there
Atlas shrugged when we all came unplugged
The day that the power went down, down down.

Empty bars, abandoned cars.
You'll never drive again
No more trains, no more planes
No more ways to get away.

The streets are bare, there's no sodium glare
When the sun goes down it's dark
Gaia laughed in that cool cool draught
The day that the power went down, down down

We make hay, but there's no pay
It's either work or starve
No PC's no Macs, no income tax
No paperwork these days

(guitar solo if you have strings)

She loved the shops now she works till she drops
With a mattock out in the fields
Push that hoe, sweetheart, weed that row
Ever since the power went down, down down.

Old jaw bone, cold flint stone
The new neolithic age
Boy and girl in the new stoneage world
Ever since the power went down, down down

Perhaps we think we can re-invent long lost 18th or 19th or 20th century techniques?

We do not need to re-invent.

So long as some documentation exists of the techniques of 1700's/1800's/1900's the humans that remain will use 'em.

Screw, spinning wheel, metal making, electricity. All possible.

The cell phones cited in the article show humans need for communication and willingness to do such. It just won't be the HD streaming video richness of today on the backside. It'll be small devices with ARM processors running text based UNIX and UUCP level.

Bang path mailers Bay-bee!

I think Ndege's article is seriously over-optimistic. As is Gail's concluding scenarios page. And Eric's comment here.

Human groups rarely handle contraction at all well. The world's supposed elites are already doing a pretty abysmal job of handling merely the end of growth, let alone the downslope to come. The probability of "developed" societies getting down that unfamiliar icy slope without slipping into catastrophe I would rate as negligible.

Others above here have rightly identified one difference from Kenya - that we in the "developed" world have become severely impoverished in the most basic skills for survival and low-energy happiness.

Eric's notion that there's no problem because we do not need to invent is also seriously misconceived. Just because there are a few books in libraries and a possible handful of people have some of the skills and tools does not mean that that basic expertise can be suddenly scaled up once the corporate system collapses (even if slowly).

Documentation of the techniques of the 1700s-1900s? Show me a single cobbler alive in the UK. How does one promptly extract such skill from "documentation" (wherever that may be)? I am talking about a most basic human requirement, for wearable shoes once we have to get everywhere by foot and shoes no are longer shipped over from China. The cobbler of Nuremberg was already moaning about the complaints of his uncomfortable customers back then (in Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg, 1867), so look forward to some whopping corns in the bright future folks.

Blacksmithing is a living art, even is it is practiced by relatively few in developed countries. Had a nice seminar locally from a Kenyan blacksmith a few years ago, they are using some very interesting techniques that European smiths generally ignore.

Cobblers exist in the US still, I'd be shocked if the foot-friendlier UK didn't have more than you think.

On the way down, the folks keeping these skills alive will at worst be hiring trainable assistants.

And one extracts skill from documentation the old fashioned way: by working with it.

Show me a single cobbler alive in the UK.

http://www.taylormadeshoes.co.uk/index.htm

And a snip at only 1500 pounds for your first pair from them :)