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18 comments on EuroElections 2009 : EPP-ED

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RalphW on May 11, 2009 - 7:03am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

There is a poll of voting intentions at our OK peak oil website

http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11287

Needless to say we are not representative of the UK as a whole. The UK will vote conservative by a landslide, just as they would in a UK national election if it was held today. (of course, turnout will be very low, maybe 30%)

That said, being a proportional voting system will help the green party, who will get zero seats in the national elections which are first past the post. I think UK has two green EU MPs at present.

Unfortunately it will also help the BNP.

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Antius on May 11, 2009 - 7:33am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

I don't consider it unfortunate at all. The party is surprisingly energy literate when you meet its members face to face. They understand the problem of peak oil better than any other party and have exactly the 'localist' sentiment that will be needed to allow the UK to survive in a post oil world.

They will be getting my vote.

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RalphW on May 11, 2009 - 8:29am Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The BNP and the greens are both energy literate. They both know about PO and many of its implications.

However, that is all they have in common.

The BNP has openly racist party with policies which includes 'repatriating' non-white second generation UK citizens to countries they have never seen. Many of the the membership are little more than racist illiterate thugs.

Don't be taken in by their public front. They are to be avoided.

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jmullee on May 11, 2009 - 5:21pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

a) being Irish, in england I would be considered by many BNP voters as a target for rough stuff.
Having said that, there's a brutal logic to thier thinking - the UK has something like 3 times the population they have land to grow food for. My living in a small neighboring underpopulated agrarian country makes me nervous ;)

b) The greens aren't all that energy literate - I bumped into a candidate for a local council at a screening of The Age of Stupid, I asked what he'd change - he said he'd push for higher density urban housing (at present here in dublin it's extremely sprawled) - which makes sense from a services-provision point of view, but - where will they grow thier food??
Inquiring minds want to know .. ;)

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bill h on May 11, 2009 - 11:54pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

The British National Party's expressions of concern about over-population might have rather more credibility if they weren't so keen on publicising the fact that their leader, Nick Griffin, has sired five children. For them the imperative is population reduction of those of the wrong skin hues or "cultures", according to whatever whimsical definition of "culture" the BNP might choose , and if that doesn't work, then competitive breeding by "whites" and "our sort" to prevent the subjugation of "us" to "them" - this, NOT peak oil, is their over-riding anxiety.

As for the Greens' policy on high density housing, what's the problem, Jmullee? Surely if this policy were implemented then it would free up urban land for food production?

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