As a Sydney resident who went the PV cell route I was interested in your analysis. I did my sums before we decided and we quickly realised that at current rates we would never get our investment back. However, as we both had strong environmental philosophies we decided that for the sake of the environment alone it would be a good thing to do for basically the cost of a 2-3 week overseas holiday.
Our 1.8kW system after rebates and REC's cost us $10,440. The meter installation was $275 only, no further costs.
Our normal electricity consumption is around 2500 kWh/pa, water heating is solar and gas is not installed. In the 3 months since it was installed, the excess generated from the PV system has averaged around 2kWh per day and so each quarter we get a cheque from our electricity supplier. I would expect in summer the difference between what we use and what we generate to be greater and therefore this average should be higher on an annual basis.
The benefit: The psychological impact that the PV system has had on us surprised us both - the feel good factor is amazingly strong. Being very environmental citizens we have donated reasonable sums over time for various causes but you never new how effective that money was but with this installation you can see it delivering clean electricity every day.
Finally what I didn't really think much about was future electricity price increases. They have just announced that electricity prices in NSW will be increasing by around 20% in July - without never having to have an electricity bill again this sort of news also increases also has a nice sound to it!
This was one direct way we could do something about global warming - we long ago gave up on Governments doing anything significant about it.
Thanks for the numbers, C3827, actual experience beats the theory any day!
It's as I said: everyone has to weigh things up for themselves. From what you say, what I called "vanity" and "environment" were the biggest motivations, and they trumped the finances.
In our case, as I said, our vanity was already satisfied by other things, and we buy renewable energy from our retailer anyway, so the environmental part was already dealt with.
However, the vanity effect and the social considerations - wanting to make the radical seem ordinary and thus help effect positive change, combined with expecting electricity prices to rise in the future, these came very close to pushing over the financial issue. Perhaps if the $8,000 rebate were extended past June 30 we might have done it, the feeling of being rushed made our natural caution jump up.
I've done much the same analysis as C3827 and found rooftop PV to be personally more expensive (vastly so when I first did the anaysis back in the 90s) so I just go with 100% Greenpower to avoid any coal-black CO2 guilt, and invest in energy-saving measures inside the house.
Politically, I'd much rather see our taxpayer dollars going into subsidising the installation of the most efficient forms of alternative energy, and rooftop PV is not one of those forms.
Finally what I didn't really think much about was future electricity price increases. They have just announced that electricity prices in NSW will be increasing by around 20% in July - without never having to have an electricity bill again this sort of news also increases also has a nice sound to it!
An added bonus for you is that every time retail Grid prices increase, so does your cheque (provided the NFIT increases with Grid Prices). ;)
As a Sydney resident who went the PV cell route I was interested in your analysis. I did my sums before we decided and we quickly realised that at current rates we would never get our investment back. However, as we both had strong environmental philosophies we decided that for the sake of the environment alone it would be a good thing to do for basically the cost of a 2-3 week overseas holiday.
Our 1.8kW system after rebates and REC's cost us $10,440. The meter installation was $275 only, no further costs.
Our normal electricity consumption is around 2500 kWh/pa, water heating is solar and gas is not installed. In the 3 months since it was installed, the excess generated from the PV system has averaged around 2kWh per day and so each quarter we get a cheque from our electricity supplier. I would expect in summer the difference between what we use and what we generate to be greater and therefore this average should be higher on an annual basis.
The benefit: The psychological impact that the PV system has had on us surprised us both - the feel good factor is amazingly strong. Being very environmental citizens we have donated reasonable sums over time for various causes but you never new how effective that money was but with this installation you can see it delivering clean electricity every day.
Finally what I didn't really think much about was future electricity price increases. They have just announced that electricity prices in NSW will be increasing by around 20% in July - without never having to have an electricity bill again this sort of news also increases also has a nice sound to it!
This was one direct way we could do something about global warming - we long ago gave up on Governments doing anything significant about it.
Thanks for the numbers, C3827, actual experience beats the theory any day!
It's as I said: everyone has to weigh things up for themselves. From what you say, what I called "vanity" and "environment" were the biggest motivations, and they trumped the finances.
In our case, as I said, our vanity was already satisfied by other things, and we buy renewable energy from our retailer anyway, so the environmental part was already dealt with.
However, the vanity effect and the social considerations - wanting to make the radical seem ordinary and thus help effect positive change, combined with expecting electricity prices to rise in the future, these came very close to pushing over the financial issue. Perhaps if the $8,000 rebate were extended past June 30 we might have done it, the feeling of being rushed made our natural caution jump up.
I've done much the same analysis as C3827 and found rooftop PV to be personally more expensive (vastly so when I first did the anaysis back in the 90s) so I just go with 100% Greenpower to avoid any coal-black CO2 guilt, and invest in energy-saving measures inside the house.
Politically, I'd much rather see our taxpayer dollars going into subsidising the installation of the most efficient forms of alternative energy, and rooftop PV is not one of those forms.
An added bonus for you is that every time retail Grid prices increase, so does your cheque (provided the NFIT increases with Grid Prices). ;)