Great essay Kurt. I usually learn a lot from reading your stuff.

My recent thoughts about the subject of effective outreach and promotion of social change ties into the current economic decline (relevance), and responses that improve both individual lives and the wider problems we face (effectiveness).

I think my message works best for people who are upset by lack of freedom in areas such as work or the debt trap they are in. Part of their anxiety has to do also with lack of competence in tasks outside of their specialty so that they need both professional services of others AND money to survive. The economic decline reveals their vulnerability.

By contrast, those who have cut back on unnecessary consumption, increased practical skills, and have spent time cultivating an informal economy are much better off and resilient right now. By the way...doing this aligns with necessary ecological debt repayment.

I will post something about it soon.

"By contrast, those who have cut back on unnecessary consumption, increased practical skills, and have spent time cultivating an informal economy are much better off and resilient right now."

Jason,

This is a much better description of what I might call genuine autonomy keeping in mind that autonomy doesn't mean being isolated and alone, but rather "self-governing," that is, having a large say in how your life will be structured. This is a far cry from what I call the illusion of autonomy from which so many suffer. Fossil fuels have made us feel powerful and omnipotent, but do they really make us more autonomous? That is, do they under our current system actually give us more power over our own lives or do they simply give others more power to shape how we live? I started to explore some of this in a piece I wrote two years ago entitled "The Illusion of Autonomy in the Fossil Fuel Age."

Thanks for the essay, Kurt.

The cartoon image of 'self-governance' that I've long wanted to put onto a t-shirt was a scene I saw in NYC, where a dog and owner walking down the street together were obeying the NYC leash law, but the dog trotted along, both wearing the leash on his neck AND holding its end in its mouth.

It might sound like an attempt to be cute and ironic, but the image was really a positive one to me. There is always a greater force (the 'owner') that is nearby and ready to impel us in directions we can't control.. we are left with the option to control ourselves, and keep our eyes open on the world..

It's the serenity prayer again.. 'Grant me the strength to change (control?) what I can, the patience to accept what I cannot change, and the wisdom to know the difference'

Bob

There is no coherent civilization that does not demand the exchange of personal freedom for community. In *that* sense, I find this essay another example of a lot of intellectualizing to make the simple complex. I'm left thinking, "And?" How far beyond living with other people requires compromise and living in society involves compromise do we need to go?

I say this not in terms of the value of scholarship in, and of, itself, but in terms of the audience: I wonder what much of this intellectualizing does to help reach people who are not either academics or intrinsically motivated wrt these issues?

To address the question:

The above said, I think the ecovillage (intentional communities), transition movements and relocalization-type movements are examples of possible future directions for balancing autonomies - at least for the people within that group, and as a group.

The ecovillage (or any intentional community) as community is a strange animal in that personal freedom is high but very strong conditions are imposed for group membership. In that sense, no different than typical modern societies, except that it can be strangely more so. One cannot be voted out of one's town, but might be voted out of an intentional community, e.g. However, that there is a focus on the commons at the organizing principle may overcome some of the fear of loss of autonomy. Safety for freedom.

Transition and relocation movements might be better examples as they tend to not demand such high degrees of adherence to the group communication/personal behavior ethos while still being centered around an ethical structure that puts a premium on the commons.

Further, they include gov't participation, but emphasize individual action in a cooperative framework. This might ultimately return to the people some of the autonomy we have voted ourselves out of over time.

Or whatever.

Cheers

People see themselves as maximizing consumers first, and citizens with duties to a greater society second.

My recent thoughts about the subject of effective outreach and promotion of social change ties into the current economic decline (relevance), and responses that improve both individual lives and the wider problems we face (effectiveness).

I'm not entirely convinced that people do see their role first as consumers and then as citizens. There is so little they can do as citizens, after all: select which of the candidates will help them consume more? Vote with their dollars in the marketplace? Time and time again I find people upset, wanting to do more, but forced by the economic strictures to spend time at work - working to make things worse. And they are often more than a little aware of that.

Much of this, I feel, is tied to the destruction of the commons. We privatize the commons to create profit, people then must work in the profit based economy, but the profit based economy must continue to privatize and destroy the commonwealth. So we destroy more and more. There is no more "head west, young man", no more frontier. Via TAE, "Someday son, none of this will be yours.".

That economic freedom is intimately tied to our political and spiritual freedom. There will be no women's rights, no gay rights, no human rights, no rights of any kind (and fugedabout rights of the environment) unless we humans have economic rights.

Most people haven't had much in the way of economic rights ever, but there was the frontier and there was growth - the rising tide floats lifts all boats. Now that both of those are no longer available, we are engaged in a negative sum economic picture - where profits can only be maintained for the few at the top by stripping what little is left of the commonwealth for the rest of us. I keep harping on the proposed salt-water fishing licenses here in Maine as a good example. The factory boats will vacuum the sea, but the guy on the dock will have to get a license to pull out a few blues.

That ties together the political and economic spheres. If you don't have "legal presence" in Maine - meaning proof-of-innocence and proof-of-citizenship - you don't get driver's license. Means no car, no insurance. It's soon to mean no bank account, no health care, no student loans (probably no go-to-school-at-all), so forth and so on. Ultimately, one will not be able to buy a little milk and day old bread without being swiped for "legal presence". So, ultimately, one's role as a consumer and a citizen are knitted together. No more Thoreaus - only Alpha, Beta, Gammas and Deltas. It's all more efficient, of course. And safer, because those unseen watchers will watch out for you. It moves politics from liberalism into authoritarianism and totalitarianism.

The Somali pirates may have the right answer - the necessary answer - to those vacuum cleaners and the dumpers of industrial toxics. It seems to me it has to get violent. Sorry. The alternative is to shut our eyes and tell ourselves this gas chamber really is a nice bathroom. What would Jefferson say?

Consider health care "reform". Mandated health care will mean no health care for those not "in system". And because it is mandated, unless you are "in system" you are illegal. Which brings us back to legal presence again. Resource depletion and the hierarchical controls (REAL ID) that society imposes will force the typical citizen/consumer to play a game she can only lose. In US that will function much as typical IMF and "free trade" agenda does in less developed country.

I wonder if this is not precisely what is playing out now. We have systematic looting and asset stripping at the top. Everyone else being set up to take the fall. Sure, there has always been corruption, but never at such a qualitative scale.

It still doesn't work, however, on a limited planet with a limited resource base. But it will work a little longer and esp for those in power, that is a good thing.

In this game of musical chairs, those in the chairs are shooting at those losing chairs. They might lend a chair to some poor slob at Blackwater (or whatever the new name is) as long as he helps. house slaves vs "terrorists".

Freedom is not a state. It is only for those who take it and the price will get increasingly high as there will be no place to stand apart - certainly not in one's own garden.

One last point now, the laws are not going to help. Rachel Carson's work did lead to more regulation and that worked in some places for a limited time. Anyone who thinks regulation works now is deluded. Every one of the regulatory agencies is now a licensing agency; they enable and do not prohibit. Law as an impartial rule is a function of liberalism; law is only a fig leaf in authoritarianism or totalitarian structures. Bush pointed out how the Constitution was only a piece of paper, Gonzales that it was "quaint", and now we have a self-proclaimed constitutional lawyer in the White House who continues the policies of the DOJ to subvert those laws. The rule of law - trust - has largely evaporated now that the only way to make money is the old-fashioned way, to steal it.

cfm, in his garden

Dyki,

Consider health care "reform". Mandated health care will mean no health care for those not "in system". And because it is mandated, unless you are "in system" you are illegal

Not necessarily. In most of Europe, you walk into an emergency room, get first class treatment and walk out. All of it is anonymous, you can say I'm John Dough and it won't matter and won't cost you a penny (obviously tax paid, etc ..). More broadly, you can have a state with large institutions and yet no ID and a universal healthcare. (of course the "system" has other tools to make you belong: debt, housing, consumerism, jobs, taxes, possible IDs, etc).

That is not a "mandated" system (as in Massachusetts and most likely in the Obama plan). What you describe is a universal system: one exists, one gets health care. But the path the US is going down is mandates. One will have to have "legal presence" to use it and if one doesn't have enough money, she will have to cough up a lien on everything she owns. And if unconscious or dead, some judge will do it. ID will be required; checkpoint society.

The ID adds a whole lot of complexity and police costs (as Peter Drucker would write) but in the big picture that is a feature, not a bug.

cfm

In the UK, the position is beginning to change.

If you are a non-UK national (or appear to be) you are likely to be asked to prove your entitlement to non-emergency treatment. If you are European, no trouble. If you are from the developing or third world, you may be asked to prove the ability to pay first.

In any system, there are grey areas, and they can spread. That is why the public in the UK are nervous of ID cards. They are too often used as a means of excluding those who were previously included. In the UK, it is becoming increasingly illegal to protest about anything. Carson would be thrown in goal if she was in the UK today.

Dryki: IF your analysis is correct, you ought to be able to look around the world a bit at countries where the process you fear is more advanced than in yours, and observe more progressed situations than your own. Do you see any? Do people need passports to purchase bread in Sweden? Is Canada imposing a new ID requirement on cross-border visits, or the US?

I think your analysis is too US-centric, and off the mark. And BTW, US citizens should just get over the stupidity of worrying about universal government health insurance. Its the only system which works if you have ANY social consience. Period.

My comments are US centric, yes. You and several others have mistaken what I wrote as being against universal health care. I must have written that badly, because it's not what I was arguing. The point I'm making has to do with freedom and control - that our entire economic lives [US centric] is coming under control.

Our financial transactions are being checked against various "terrorist" databases. We have federal Homeland Security Directors and state Commissioner of Public Safety boasting that no one will be able to get federal or state services, health care, educational assistance, etc... without legal presence. Nor mortgages, bank accounts, jobs. With the toggle of a few bytes they want to be able to exclude whatever groups they want administratively. Here in Maine they are setting up a system to track people from pre-K through job history to monitor results.

I'm not arguing against universal health care; I'm arguing against a system that will parcel it out according to your "results". Think about how that standard will be set and applied. That's what I see as one way freedom and resource depletion may play out; not enough to go around.

And as of Jun 1, aren't passports now required for US citizens to visit Mexico and Canada? One gets run through the databases on way out now. But nothing to worry about, "It Can't Happen Here".

"US citizens should just get over the stupidity of worrying about universal government health insurance. Its the only system which works if you have ANY social consience. Period."

Amen (and I don't think you have to be in the medical field to make such a claim ;-)