The critiques I posted of the last two articles apply again here, since the assumptions and conclusions of those two feed into those of this one. I'm sure others will repeat themselves.

The analysis needs some comparative figures. For example,

  • the cost of getting the same energy entirely from fossil fuels over the time period envisaged for the conversion to renewables
  • the cost in disruptions to economy and society of simply letting the fossil fuels run short and replacing them with nothing

A lack of comparison is the most serious weakness of this paper. For example,

The figure quoted only represents the major energy production plant required. In parallel with this will be a similar cost associated with the changes made by energy users (i.e. electric vehicles, mining and manufacturing equipment, rail lines, power transmission, metal smelters etc. etc....)

You've not given a clear time period for the conversion to renewables. However, it seems fair to assume you're thinking of more than a generation (30 years). Even if coal fell like manna from the heavens and the Earth had a creamy nougat center of oil, over those 30 years much of our vehicles, mining and manufacturing equipment, rail lines, power transmission, metal smelters and the like would be replaced anyway.

So if we have a petrol-burning car now in 2009, and are going to have to replace it in 2020 at the latest, whether we're replacing it with a $10,000 petrol-burning car or a $10,000 electric car doesn't matter economically. It only matters if one is $10,000 and the other $15,000 or $5,000.

Your figures are absolute rather than relative. It's like someone saying to us, "buying your house will cost you $300,000 over 20 years!" Yes, it will. But if we didn't buy the house, we'd have to pay rent anyway, so the question must be what extra cost we have because of our choice.

Just as whether we own or rent, we're not going to let ourselves be homeless over the next 20 years, so too will we as a society not let ourselves be without electricity, transport and so on.

Whatever we do, we're going to spend shitloads of cash on building stuff. The only questions are:

  • what will we build?
  • how much more will it cost than building something else?
  • is it worth it?

Your paper doesn't look at extra costs, only absolute costs. It thus vastly overstates the magnitude of the problem in economic terms. Presumably the aim is to raise the alarm. That's a good thing to do. But when you overstate the problem, people find excuses to dismiss what you say. Between crying wolf! and moderating everything into meaningless bland bureaucratese there's a sensible middle ground where you present the problem and its solutions in a reasonable and fair manner.

This ain't it.

I agree completely. I'm very pleased with how sensible and polite the posts have been on this article! Hopefully it doesn't devolve into namecalling anytime soon =)

Your paper doesn't look at extra costs, only absolute costs. It thus vastly overstates the magnitude of the problem in economic terms.Presumably the aim is to raise the alarm. That's a good thing to do. But when you overstate the problem, people find excuses to dismiss what you say. Between crying wolf! and moderating everything into meaningless bland bureaucratese there's a sensible middle ground where you present the problem and its solutions in a reasonable and fair manner.

It may overstate the problem in economic terms, but may understate the problems connected with peak oil (and peak gas). It are the diminishing oil-exports (because of geology, problably starting the next decade)in combination with lower EROEI that will cause a lot of problems. You are right that 'crying wolf' closes most people ears, but at the same time there is a reason for panic because the governments will wait too long as they believe EIA, CERA, etc who don't see declining oilproduction before 2030 or so. If oilproduction declines with a few procent/year, oil-exports will drop faster mainly because of ELM.

The current model of the national energy grid is designed for maximum consumption. The model of the national energy grid is not sustainable for a national climate change strategy. We already see the repeating of past mistakes of investments by picking pet projects and having power carried across long distances with geothermal in Queensland. The current business practices of the national grid stakeholders will easily want to make the existing systems more efficient and effective when government policy has designed the system to maximise energy output.
Coupled with these problems of the national energy grid of high levels of distribution inefficiencies is how Renewable Energy Certificates (RECs) and Green Power both of which seemed to be designed for large economic players to benefit from. With Green Power it is lot clear what it is purchases and for RECs how it is counted.
Another level of complexity there seems to be little interest in a distributed energy system from the managers of the energy industry. Added to this is the executive management culture of the Australian power industry that is based on status quo management where the game is to maximise their sunk costs and their myopic strategic thinking.
Hence we do not see much roll out of Renewable Energy like large-scale wind farms.

http://www.scu.edu.au/staffdirectory/person_detail.php?person_id=13328

Michael,
"Hence we do not see much roll out of Renewable Energy like large-scale wind farms."

Not true, how about the 680MW of installed capacity in 2008(60% growth rate), and just a few days ago the Silverton Wind Farm near Broken Hill, 500MW capacity.
Infigen(IFN) is also completing 140 MW near Canberra due to be opened late 2009. About 550MW under construction before the Silverton project.
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2009/06/planning-ap...

That's a substantial roll out of wind farms in my opinion.