I agree with your analysis--
Any ideas on how to accomplish this, other than setting up even more of an oppressive police state?
Urban areas in the US are often scary, and I have spent quite a bit of time in Bogota Columbia.

On the "bright" side, suburban crime is increasing as the housing crisis worsens. So maybe people will move to cities simply because suburban crime is just as bad or worse. :-/

legalize drugs:

The USA lost the war on drugs decades ago.

Anyone have an ERoEI for the war on drugs?

No they didn't. They just weren't on the side you thought they were.

But, agreed wrt legalization.

Blondie,

You are so right it hurts.

Unfortunately we seldom do what is right but rather what is politically expedient and we have too many cops,lawyers,judges,and politicians depending on the war on drugs for things to change in this respect until thirty or forty million older voterswho know in thier hearts about the devil weed are replaced by younger ones.

It is patently ridiculous to lock up somebody for smoking pot when he copuld be paying a couple of thousend bucks a year in taxes on his smoke-and still getting it cheaper than black market.

Legalizing drug take would do away with 99 percent of drug related crime,and allow society to focus on treatment rather than punishment.

True conservatives and liberterians adhere to this pov,as well as younger folks who detest the republican establishment.

It's time for a little political bridge building.

Don't hold your breath for legalization (unless they are waterboarding you) http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=7800340

trekker -- If it's that oppressive where you live now you might consider moving to Houston. Currently here the individual is primarily responsible for their protection. This isn’t a shot our cops. They do their best. But the best they can do is work on solving crimes already committed and writing speeding tickets. Don’t drive over the speed limit or commit a crime and you can live here 30 years without even meeting a cop let alone be oppressed by one. For a major city Houston may not be as bad as many when it comes to crime. But the rules here have been very clear for a long time: you are responsible for preventing a crime against you and yours…not the police. Unfortunately that requires a bit of self-induced paranoia to make yourself watch your back though.

Don’t drive over the speed limit or commit a crime and you can live here 30 years without even meeting a cop let alone be oppressed by one.

That's news to Robbie Tolan.

Thanks Leanan. I hadn't heard abut that shooting. But it does emphasize my point...a little. He was shot because the cop had thought he stole the car. Poor policing for sure. But it was a shooting while investigating a possible crime...not trying to prevent one. And knowing the Bellaire cops being black was the guy's first mistake. I wasn't kidding about an almost complete lack of crime prevention by the establishment here. I'm not sure we're much different then other big towns. But I can tell you the attitude of many here when listening to a victem's story: why did you allow yourself to be in the situation in the first place? It's not exactly the old west here but most folks expect you to be armed and able to defend yourself. And that does make you cautious when approaching someone in a dark parking lot. They might not be one of the bad guys but they might think you are.

p.s. Been in Houston oveer 30 years and never met an HPD cop. Probably never been within 100' of one. But I was once handcuffed in the back seat of a county deputy sheriff's car once...way to long a story for TOD but he did let me go when the confusion was cleared.

It's a very sad case. Made national news, because Robbie Tolan's dad was a fairly well-known baseball player. Otherwise, I doubt anyone would have cared. The kid's baseball career may be over, because of the shooting.

They suspected him of stealing the car, apparently because he was young and dark-skinned. The car was his parent's. It wasn't a particularly expensive car, either. But apparently, they thought it was too nice for a guy like him to drive, and so they ran the plate number. They mistyped the number, though - that's why it came back as stolen.

They forced him down in his driveway. His mom came out of the house, and freaked. They started shoving her around, and he started to get up. To protect her, I guess. That's when they shot him.

And what will happen to that cop?

What could be done that would be 'justice'?

*shakes head*
*finds a bottle of booze and drinks away the sad*

How in the heck can you live in Houston and not have heard of this case???!!! I am living here again and it was big news for a while -- all the TV stations, in the Chronicle, etc.

Strange.

BTW, did you hear of Hurricane Ike?

I actually live in Baytown displaced. Not that we're that far from Houston but I pay little attention to local news outside of the politics of Baytown or the state. I probably haven't bought the Chronicle in 10 years and have no reason to watch local stations. It's a big world out there with many aspects that will affect me and mine. Outside of politics and road work local events don't impact me. Growing up in S La. 40+ years ago where being black automaticly makes you suspect has probably desensatized me to a degree about such abuses. Also, I'm as far away from being a sports fan as one can get so that angle wouldn't have garnered a second look.

Rockman,

You are dead on regarding crime and self defense.We do suffer the occasional bank robbery around here,but even guys dumb enough to rob a bank know that bank clerks aren't allowed to bring a gun to work.

Such burglars as we have are extremely careful to make sure thier victims are not home,and home invasions are so rare that most folks don't know what the words mean.

Convenience store robberies are rare ,even though most of the chain stores have a no waepon policy.Ya just can't be sure a redneck store clerk cares more about his job than his life,ya see,and rednecks are notorious for hauling out thier piece when threatened. THEREFORE store robberies are rare.You don't go to jail in Va or the Carolinas for defending yourself.
Physical violence is limited mostly to the wife abuse category.

We do lose an occasional citizen to a jealous husband with a pistol or a careless drunk,but as I see it,jealous husbands and drunks can and do kill with golf clubs and automobiles.

We lose thousands of lives every year to accidents and untreated disease.The people so hot to collect our weapons don't seem to be very excited about this preventable loss of life,thus leaving me wondering about thier true motives.

Now if somebody like Bernie Madoff stole my life savings,or my parents life savings,his life wouldn't be worth a wooden nickel-if he lived around here.I find it HARD to understand why SOMEBODY of the many who have been robbed by such white collar criminals doesn't just shoot one of them ONCE in a while.

I'm sure a few such incidences would have a salutary effect on the incidence of big time white collar crime.

Call me an unreconstructed redneck if you like,but I AM rational.Mostly.

I'm really sorry about the kid the cops shot.

THe ones involved should be busted to clerks with no possibility of ever carrying a firearm on business again,at least.

Thier superiors should busted to privates and never be promoted again.

This policy works keeping the armed forces leadership on thier toes.

Remember that I'm just a crabby old farmer and not to be taken too seriously-unless the subject is ag.