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darwinsdog on June 30, 2009 - 2:03pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Without hope all is darkness and depression with usually fatal results for the hopeless.

And the results aren't likewise fatal for the hopeful?

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r4ndom on June 30, 2009 - 3:05pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

DOOOM! DOOOM!

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darwinsdog on June 30, 2009 - 3:33pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Do you hope for a "solution" to the "problem" of peak oil? Do you hope for a return to "happy motoring" and BAU? Do you hope to live forever? I would contend that such pollyannaism serves as an irrational ego defense against intense fear of change and of personal mortality. You ARE "DOOOM"ed, you know, as are we all. Good luck on "making a difference at all." By all means feel free to knock yourself out trying...

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Prof. Goose on June 30, 2009 - 3:55pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

"Who Wants to Live Forever?" - Queen (Brian May), A Kind of Magic (1986)

There's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams
Yet slips away from us

There's no chance for us
It's all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment
Set aside for us

Who wants to live forever?
Who wants to live forever.....?

(excerpted...)

http://bestballads.narod.ru/wma/Queen_-_Who_Wants_To_Live_Forever.wma

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pbogdonoff on June 30, 2009 - 4:42pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

As a friend who worked at the State Department for 30 years used to toast: "To our hopeless cause!"

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jokuhl on June 30, 2009 - 4:48pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

'Every man dies.. but not every man really lives.' Mel the Bruce

or

'After the game, the king and pawn go in the same box' .. what do you choose to make your life until then?

Angry or Dismissive doomerism can be a mental defense mechanism, too. Often seems that it is..

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darwinsdog on June 30, 2009 - 5:06pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Angry or Dismissive doomerism

I prefer the term "ahedonistic nihilism." It has a more pleasingly pretentious ring to it.. :)

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r4ndom on June 30, 2009 - 5:44pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Yep, we all die.

But before I die I plan on living a bit more.

You can wallow in all the self pity you like, but the abyss won't get any deeper or blacker if you choose to look away from it every once in a while.

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darwinsdog on June 30, 2009 - 5:48pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Nor will deciding to ignore the abyss make it any less deep and black when you stumble into it.

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r4ndom on June 30, 2009 - 6:01pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

There's a long distance between obsessing on the abyss and ignoring it completely.

It seems that the people stuck at either end can't see the path between.

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darwinsdog on June 30, 2009 - 6:05pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Comments top

Good point! ;)

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