1) I have a small amount of gold just as a kind of "insurance". I've heard that after the war in Europe it was helpful to have some. I started out with it to trade it, but then once I had it- it seemed just wrong to sell it. We have some stockpiles of food and water in event of a hurricane but I haven't taken the step yet of stockpiling for a sustained shortage of basic goods. I don't know what I am waiting for, it just seems like abandoning all hope to take that step.
2) This is playing out now by opening new areas to oil drilling. IMO areas not being drilled now should be held in reserve for future generations. And for anyone with children it is easy to care about the long term. Granted that 100 years is several generations, but do we really want to be remembered by our descendents for our greed?
3) I just read an article the other day where they cut the calories of Rhesus monkeys by a third and showed that the health benefits were phenomenal. So yes, I certainly think that cutting back is a viable strategy. We have installed better insulation and solar water heat in our house and I drive a small 4-cylinder car that is certified as an ULEV. I think this is actually the better strategy because this sets an example that others might be willing to follow. There is so much waste in everything right now, how much improvement would there be in our situation if everyone became more frugal? We could at least buy some time.
4) What you are going to have in this discussion are those who think you have to go it alone and those like me who think survivable is not feasible without a community effort. I think preparation should consist of learning how to be a leader, or at least how to gain some amount of influence. Those of us who have knowledge of the problems facing us should have knowledge of possible solutions and the capability to influence people around us if we want to make a difference.
Your remark about leaving resources for later generations triggered the thought that we would be leaving the least accessible ones that require the most expense [in both energy and investment] and sophisticated technology to retrieve and use.
This seems to me to have the unconscious bias of assuming that the level of economic structures and technology will be functional in the future that we would be bequething these resources to.
Far better than lauding ourselves for some moral restraint, it makes sense for us to use the resources lightly and then just kiss them goodby as stranded resources forever.
That's a good point you make about the leaving the least accessible resources. I haven't really developed my thought on this subject too much but discussing it will help.
I think we may agree more than you than you realize. When I speak of leaving untapped oil reserves for our children I really mean the generation growing up now. I have no idea what the situation will be 100 years down the road but I think you're right that drilling for oil two miles below the ocean surface may be beyond them.
The way I feel is that untapped resources should be off-limits until people start to appreciate their scarcity and use them sparingly. So I agree that it does make sense for us to use resources lightly.
My hope with this would be to buy time to adapt to different energy sources and mitigate the transition to a lower-energy lifestyle. Maybe there was some desire on my part for this generation to have some moral restraint, but chances for that are not too good anyway from the look of things.
In case you ever try the Rhesus monkey thing, voluntarily or not, their diets were very carefully controlled. Caloric restriction is about calories, not nutrients, so just be careful :)
Hi Nate,
I have some time so I will answer your questions.
1) I have a small amount of gold just as a kind of "insurance". I've heard that after the war in Europe it was helpful to have some. I started out with it to trade it, but then once I had it- it seemed just wrong to sell it. We have some stockpiles of food and water in event of a hurricane but I haven't taken the step yet of stockpiling for a sustained shortage of basic goods. I don't know what I am waiting for, it just seems like abandoning all hope to take that step.
2) This is playing out now by opening new areas to oil drilling. IMO areas not being drilled now should be held in reserve for future generations. And for anyone with children it is easy to care about the long term. Granted that 100 years is several generations, but do we really want to be remembered by our descendents for our greed?
3) I just read an article the other day where they cut the calories of Rhesus monkeys by a third and showed that the health benefits were phenomenal. So yes, I certainly think that cutting back is a viable strategy. We have installed better insulation and solar water heat in our house and I drive a small 4-cylinder car that is certified as an ULEV. I think this is actually the better strategy because this sets an example that others might be willing to follow. There is so much waste in everything right now, how much improvement would there be in our situation if everyone became more frugal? We could at least buy some time.
4) What you are going to have in this discussion are those who think you have to go it alone and those like me who think survivable is not feasible without a community effort. I think preparation should consist of learning how to be a leader, or at least how to gain some amount of influence. Those of us who have knowledge of the problems facing us should have knowledge of possible solutions and the capability to influence people around us if we want to make a difference.
Clint
Your remark about leaving resources for later generations triggered the thought that we would be leaving the least accessible ones that require the most expense [in both energy and investment] and sophisticated technology to retrieve and use.
This seems to me to have the unconscious bias of assuming that the level of economic structures and technology will be functional in the future that we would be bequething these resources to.
Far better than lauding ourselves for some moral restraint, it makes sense for us to use the resources lightly and then just kiss them goodby as stranded resources forever.
Vicky
That's a good point you make about the leaving the least accessible resources. I haven't really developed my thought on this subject too much but discussing it will help.
I think we may agree more than you than you realize. When I speak of leaving untapped oil reserves for our children I really mean the generation growing up now. I have no idea what the situation will be 100 years down the road but I think you're right that drilling for oil two miles below the ocean surface may be beyond them.
The way I feel is that untapped resources should be off-limits until people start to appreciate their scarcity and use them sparingly. So I agree that it does make sense for us to use resources lightly.
My hope with this would be to buy time to adapt to different energy sources and mitigate the transition to a lower-energy lifestyle. Maybe there was some desire on my part for this generation to have some moral restraint, but chances for that are not too good anyway from the look of things.
Hey Clint,
In case you ever try the Rhesus monkey thing, voluntarily or not, their diets were very carefully controlled. Caloric restriction is about calories, not nutrients, so just be careful :)