Stories tagged with "Charles Hall"
Annual Conference on Biophysical Economics
Posted by David Murphy on October 1, 2009 - 10:12am
Topic: Miscellaneous
Tags: biophysical, charles hall, conference, david murphy, economics, suny-esf [list all tags]

Following the ASPO conference in Denver, the State University of New York - College of Environmental Science and Forestry will host the 2nd annual conference on Biophysical Economics. Joseph Tainter is this year's plenary speaker, and will discuss biophysical economics and the collapse of complex societies. Other speakers include Gail the Actuary and David Murphy from The Oil Drum, as well as the host, Dr. Charles Hall. The link to the Biophysical Economics website can be accessed here, where additional information, including the itinerary, can be found.
REVIEW: A Preliminary Investigation of Energy Return on Energy Investment for Global Oil and Gas Production
Posted by David Murphy on July 28, 2009 - 9:20am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Geology/Exploration
Tags: charles hall, eroi, extraction, lysle brinker, nate gagnon, natural gas, net energy, oil [list all tags]
This post reviews a paper by Nate Gagnon, Charles Hall and Lysle Brinker titled: “A Preliminary Investigation of Energy Return on Energy Investment for Global Oil and Gas Production,” published recently in the peer-reviewed journal Energies. The lead author was my colleague for two years at SUNY-ESF and the second author is currently my Ph.D. advisor and has published numerous guest posts here on The Oil Drum. See here for a list of previous posts relating to work by Dr. Charles Hall, and here to download a full-text PDF of this paper.
EROI of Global Oil and Gas Production

Limits to Growth Model Worth Another Look
Posted by David Murphy on April 25, 2009 - 9:55am
Topic: Miscellaneous
Tags: charles hall, john day, limits to growth, original [list all tags]
This post relates to an article written by my advisor Charles Hall and a close friend of his. The article is available from American Scientist (paywall) or from Professor Hall's web site.
There are only finite resources in the world, but population continues to grow. How will this situation resolve itself? This was a question a group of scientists (Meadows et al), commissioned by the "Club of Rome," attempted to answer back in 1972, in a book called Limits to Growth. The model they presented predicted growing resource scarcity, increasing pollution, and eventual population decline, all prior to 2100.
Charles A. S. Hall and John W. Day revisit these predictions in an article published this month in American Scientist called Revisiting the Limits to Growth After Peak Oil. Their analysis indicates that the predictions from 1972 were surprisingly accurate, considering how long ago they were made:

According to Hall and Day, "The values predicted by the limits-to-growth model and actual data for 2008 are very close."
Implications of Energy Return on Investment, Peak Oil and the Concept of “Best First”
Posted by David Murphy on January 2, 2009 - 11:23am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Miscellaneous
Tags: best first, charles hall, david ricardo, depletion, eroei, eroi, eroi guy, natural gas, peak oil [list all tags]
The following is a post by both Dr. Charles Hall and EROI Guy. Most of the material comes from a recently published book chapter titled “Peak oil, EROI, investments and the economy in an uncertain future.” The book can be found here. Dr. Charles Hall is a professor of Systems Ecology at the College of Environmental Science and Forestry in Syracuse, New York, and has written about energy issues many times on The Oil Drum, found here.
Welcome to The Oil Drum: EROI
Posted by David Murphy on December 28, 2008 - 6:17pm in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Site news
Tags: charles hall, eroi, eroi guy, introduction, net energy [list all tags]
We welcome all readers to the newest TOD sub-domain: "The Oil Drum: EROI" – or Energy Return on Investment. This sub-domain will be administered by Professor Charles Hall and his Ph.D. Student, David Murphy (EROI Guy) as well as by many of the other editors and contributors from TOD that write about net energy analysis and biophysical economic concepts.
We have at our school (SUNY – College of Environmental Science and Forestry) an “EROI Institute” (web site is operational, but still undergoing development) which is basically three offices, two relatively large, and a bunch of books and computers. There are roughly 8 graduate students at any one time and usually about half a dozen undergraduates hanging around. We all work on sweating out various analyses related to energy. We have only quite minimal funding and work on a shoestring although many students are supported by NSF fellowships, teaching assistantships or funding that we do have for tropical research. So with that introduction, let us turn our attention briefly to describing why we think EROI is important.
The IEA WEO 2008 from the Perspective of Biophysical Economics
Posted by David Murphy on November 14, 2008 - 10:26am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Economics/Finance
Tags: biophysical economics, charles hall, charlie maxwell, energy intensity, eroi, iea, neoclassical economics, ponzi scheme, upstream costs, weo 2008, world energy outlook [list all tags]
Editor's note: the following post is by Dr. Charles Hall and his Phd student David Murphy (EROI Guy), and is part of our on-going series reviewing the World Energy Outlook 2008, recently published by the IEA. It is also the first post of a new 'channel' on The Oil Drum: TOD:EROI, where we will be posting essays, papers, and analysis on the biophysical aspects of energy. Our intent is to be a real time central clearinghouse for biophysical/net energy research and ideas. We have debated on calling it EROEI - Energy Return on Energy Invested, but have decided to keep it consistent with the acronym from the energy literature. The post below critiques the neoclassical economic assumptions underpinning the IEA report and proposes future 'energy watchdog' reports utilize an alternative approach grounded in biophysical concepts.
Report from 33d Intl. Geology Congress in Norway (By Charlie Hall)
Posted by Nate Hagens on August 25, 2008 - 11:00am
Topic: Geology/Exploration
Tags: charles hall, colin campbell, geology, ipcc, jean laherrère, original, peak oil [list all tags]
Below is an email sent by Professor Charles Hall from SUNY-Syracuse detailing his recent trip to an international Geology conference in Norway. Though written for his friends and colleagues, I thought the details and insights he shared from his trip to Norway would be worth sharing with the TOD readership, particularly the comments on peak oil and climate change. Charlie also tells me he has a new paper published next week on EROI economics which I will format and post here.
Should EROEI be the most important criterion our society uses to decide how it meets its energy needs?
Posted by Chris Vernon on August 20, 2008 - 11:07am in The Oil Drum: Europe
Topic: Supply/Production
Tags: charles hall, energy density, eroei, eroi, net energy, original [list all tags]
What is EROEI?
Energy returned on energy invested (EROEI or EROI) is a concept that mirrors the financial metric, return on investment (ROI). In order to make an energy gain or “profit”, energy or work must be consumed or exerted (Cleveland, C.J., 2001, p.11). The energy gain or profit often referred to as “net energy”. EROEI is usually expressed as a ratio, or occasionally as a percentage. EROEI can also be represented diagrammatically in simplified form (Fig. 1).

Figure 1: EROEI
(Charles Hall, Pradeep Tharakan, John Hallock, Wei Wu and Jae-Young Ko, Advances in Energy Studies Conference, Porto Venere, Italy, September 2002)2
The energy referred to in EROEI can be energy to run technology, such as liquid fuels for transport or electricity for lighting. It can however refer to energy in a form that can be taken in directly by living organisms: food.
Charlie Hall: How much oil and gas will increased drilling provide? Geology's Answer: Not Much.
Posted by Nate Hagens on August 15, 2008 - 10:15am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Supply/Production
Tags: charles hall, drilling, eia, eroei, eroi, gas, oil, original, peak oil [list all tags]

Annual rates of total drilling for and production of oil and gas in the US, 1949-2005 (R2 of the two = 0.005; source: U.S. EIA and N. D. Gagnon). Since drilling and other exploration activities are energy intensive, other things being equal EROI is lower when drilling rates are high.
As oil prices increase and the presidential campaigns heat up there is a lot of discussion about increased drilling for oil. In economic theory higher prices will give market signals to increase exploration and exploitation of resources and hence deliver more to society, although at a higher price. Will this in fact occur with oil for the United States? Of course we will not know until we do it, but we can look to the past for hints. The enclosed figure represents the history of drilling and production for oil and gas in the United States. The answer seems inescapable: the rate of drilling for oil in the United States has been unrelated to finding or producing oil and gas, which is determined principally by geology. Mother nature, not market theory, determines resource availability, at least in this case and probably many more. (Source: Hall, Powers and Schoenberg (in press))
Wave/Geothermal - Energy Return on Investment (EROI) (Part 6 of 6)
Posted by Nate Hagens on May 14, 2008 - 10:00am in The Oil Drum: Net Energy
Topic: Alternative energy
Tags: charles hall, eroei, eroi, geothermal, geothermal energy, net energy, wave, wave energy [list all tags]
This is the final piece of a series on Energy Return on Investment from Professor Charles Hall's EROI Workshop at SUNY. Today's papers outline the energy technologies of wave and geothermal power, concluding a 5 part series that has looked at Why EROI Matters, Natural Gas and Imported Oil, Tar Sands and Shale Oil, Nuclear Power, and Passive Solar, Photovoltaic, Wind, and Hydro-electric. Previously, Professor Hall also wrote the thought provoking, At $100 Oil, What Can the Scientist Say to the Investor. Forget not about the simple 'balloon graph' below of EROI x Scale for fossil and renewable energy sources that this project is attempting to update with the help of theoildrum.com readership.



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