Fast solar cars and slow oil
Posted by Heading Out on July 25, 2005 - 2:51am
Well as the solar cars race West along the Trans-Canada, travelling at the speed limit, there are a couple of struggles taking place including the leadership, that are fun to watch via the gps link. It is amazing to me that I can watch the race, almost in real time, from this far away. The lead car (Michigan may have passed Minnesota) reached Regina it appears about half an hour earlier than anticipated - what was that about keeping to the speed limit?
On the oil energy front today there is a different story. Ah, peak oil.
The United States is a relatively mature part of the world in terms of having seen a lot of the immediately available oil extracted. The oil that remains comes in many cases, from stripper wells, where the flow is small, but can remain steady for many years. Oil here has to be pumped out of the ground. The LA Times has a story on such an operation today on Cano Petroleum.
The story includes a comment that the company has yet to make a profit, and comments on the lack of experts in the area.
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On the oil energy front today there is a different story. Ah, peak oil.
The United States is a relatively mature part of the world in terms of having seen a lot of the immediately available oil extracted. The oil that remains comes in many cases, from stripper wells, where the flow is small, but can remain steady for many years. Oil here has to be pumped out of the ground. The LA Times has a story on such an operation today on Cano Petroleum.
Johnson laid down $8 million for the field (in central Texas), which covers more than 10,000 acres.The article goes on to describe how the company gets the oil out of the ground using an enhanced oil recovery (EOR) technique.
Today, Johnson's company is using enhanced recovery techniques to pull 80 barrels of oil a day from Desdemona's 60 wells, or about 1.3 barrels per well. These are known as stripper wells — wells that yield less than 10 barrels of oil a day — and Desdemona is riddled with them.
"Stripper wells are huge in this country," said Jeff Eshelman, spokesman for the Independent Producers Assn. of America. "They're the equivalent of what we import from Saudi Arabia each year."
In 2003, according to the most recent data available, the nation's 393,463 stripper wells produced 313 million barrels, or about 15% of domestic, onshore oil production in the contiguous 48 states. Most of the country's stripper wells are in Texas, Oklahoma and California, with half of California's 42,000 oil wells classified as strippers. In contrast to the stripper wells' output, many larger wells that are being worked over by the likes of Chevron Corp. yield more than 100 barrels a day, according to Iraj Ershaghi, director of the Center for Interactive Smart Oilfield Technology at USC.
Companies pump carbon dioxide, water or steam into old wells to push more oil out of the rock and up to the service. Sophisticated computer simulations can spot caches of oil hidden inside rock that can then be accessed by drilling out from a nearby well.The relative amounts of oil in the fluid (around 0.3%) makes the water cut in Saudi Arabia (about 30%) that have been the subject of some of Matt Simmons comments seem almost like pure oil.
Cano mostly relies on a process known as alkaline-surfactant-polymer, which is used to get the last 16%-25% of oil out of the rock.
First, the wells are flooded with water and then a soap-like chemical is pumped underground that loosens the oil molecules from the rock — like dishwashing soap prying greasy residue off a lasagna pan. Finally, the oil is separated from the water and sucked up out of the ground. Sometimes, engineers actually use an industrial-sized vacuum to pull the hard-to-get oil caches out.
Using this technique, Cano's 2,601-acre field in Nowata, Okla., is producing 77,000 barrels of fluid a day, out of which the company is pulling 250 barrels of oil daily. "This isn't thick and tarry oil," said John Lacik, Cano's production, safety, health and environmental coordinator. "It's real pretty, greenish-gold and real lightweight."
The story includes a comment that the company has yet to make a profit, and comments on the lack of experts in the area.
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Oklahoma is pretty windy. Makes you wonder if they're using wind power to run the pumps and whatnot.
Re: CO2 spurs Wyoming oil revival --- Peak Oil In A Nutshell
This is an AP article by Bob Moen working out of Wyoming. Really good stuff. CO2 enhanced oil recovery, etc. A lot of effort for not much oil. A great picture of the energy picture here in the Western states. Not a "stripper well" but still relevant.
J -- I'd like to hear your thoughts if you're reading.
No non-subscription version was available. I got this at the Boulder Daily Camera. Does anyone know what's up with current CO2 injection? the cost? where they get the CO2? how do they transport it?
There are some costs, which I will have to look up, for the CO2 injections in the North Sea that were published as part of a degree in Norway, as I recall. I am also going to have to go back and look at some of our earlier posts, since I seem to remember reading one of the studies that led up to this.
How much it costs is dependent on how it is made. You get industrial CO2 from power plant exhaust, usually using MEA or DEA washer columns to remove the nitrogen. The columns are driven by the heat of the exhaust gas so the cost is in the equipment investment. The other method of separation used is to compress the gas mixture until the CO2 liquefies; the compression power usually makes this more expensive. If the gas is to be used for human consumption or welding, then further purification must be done (remove SO2, H2S, and NOx).
If there is no handy power plant or steel plant nearby, then you can buy CO2 generators, which are essentially burners with purification units. Breweries also produce a lot of excess CO2.
For transport you got liquid trucks, which IIRC hold about 9000 gal of CO2 liquid, or pipelines. You could probably do single wells with vaporized liquid, but otherwise you're talking a pipeline. In the middle of nowhere a pipeline could run $5-$10 per diameter in-ft, in an urban area this could run up to $100 per diameter in ft. To this you have to add compressor investment and power.
We posted on CO2 and EOR back here
theoildrum.blogspot.com/2005/05/there-is-some-good-news.html
theoildrum.blogspot.com/2005/05/cleaning-up-after-elephants-or-more-on.html
theoildrum.blogspot.com/2005/04/monday-night-conversation-part-two.html
I tried to pick up the OGJ story since it lists a number of places where the technique could be tried, but it requires a higher level subscription than I currently have.
The Chinese experiment that was referred to could be valuable, since they were using flue gases with much less clean-up and were getting a good return. I need to chase that up, one of these days.
Dave: Compressed CO2 would be a drug on the mart if most coal-fired powerplants were converted to oxygen-blown IGCC; the gasifiers operate at ~400 PSI, and roughly half the carbon is converted to CO2 which is largely removed during the step which strips hydrogen sulfide from the syngas.
On top of this, even the early IGCC systems were 40% efficient compared to coal-steam's ~33%; they'd get 20% more energy out of that ton of coal. Shipping half the carbon off to go underground again would be a huge win for the atmosphere.
The biggest problem with CO2 flooding is that it requires a specific type of reservoir where all the field is basically conitguous. Any compartmentalization increases cost by requiring seondary injections points, and basically a "project within a project" type deal.
My biggest concern is that by injecting CO2 into the ground we might be leaving time bombs all over the place. Oil and gas migrate, and reervoirs are not static. If a fault slips and allows the CO2 to migrate to a zone that can allow it to reach surface, it will. But if there is a leaki around the cement and casing in one of these wells after they have been plugged and abandoned, the CO2 will silently slip out and vent to atmosphere.
But it really does a good job in the right reservoir - Exxon upgraded their CO2 facilities about 5 years ago, and nobody knew why they were building such a huge plant. It is obvious they were getting ready for this in hindsight - they are good at making a buck.
In the mid '70's I worked for a drilling firm in the CO2 fields of NE New Mexico. The Bravo Dome formation there is one of the largest naturally occurring deposits of CO2 known to exist. Originally tapped in the 1930's to supply dry ice for refrigerating California produce on its way east, many of the pumping stations were shut down in the 1960's as mechanical a/c supplanted the old reefer cars. When the value of CO2 in tertiary extraction was demonstrated in the Permian Basin oil fields, plans were made to build a pipeline to this area. The outfit I worked for drilled a lot of wells and refurbished an old compressor station in anticipation of the coming bonanza. It never happened. I drove through the area last week for the first time in 25 years and everything we built has been abandoned. Sic transit gloria mundi.
-Treefrog
Engineer-Poet
I drove through Oklahoma last week and noticed a large wind farm going in around McAlester in the west central part of the state.
-Treefrog
J's comment helps explain "... whether CO2 injection can work depends on geology, well patterns and a host of other factors."
Re: EP's post on IGCC, this recent CNN article Power Plant Builders See Profit In Turning Coal To Gas notes that it "hasn't been widely adopted because of reliability and cost concerns". In addition, " The DOE projects 16 gigawatts of IGCC generating capacity will be built by 2025, about one-fifth of the new coal-fired capacity that will be built in that time".
I have difficulty seeing why IGCC is still difficult. Details like slag handling seem to be relatively straightforward extensions of what's already done in atmospheric combustion. I've read the progress reports on projects like Wabash River; if they had big expensive problems, they didn't say much.
People have been complaining about the money in the energy bill for clean coal. It looks to me like this money might be exactly what's needed.
I would say that the reliaibility and cost concerns for IGCC as compared to a coal-fired power plant stem mostly from the fact that there's 2 times as much equipment in the cycle. There's the oxygen plant, the gasifiers, gas cleanup, the shift reactors, the CO2 removal, the gas turbine, the steam turbine, and the waste heat boiler vs a boiler, a steam turbine, and maybe some exhaust gas cleanup. More stuff means more cost and more things to fail.
Good old negative entropy means that complex systems are more prone to failure. They ALWAYS cost more, and in development wind up becoming a very delicate balancing act between the various working components (my experience speaking here).
This is why in the oil patch we opt for KISS engineering principles rather than complex systems whenever possible. It is why we adapt new technology carefully and incrementally. Going whole-hog with multi-million dollar, complex systems usually results in a budget buster. Ramping it up piecemeal lets you work out the kinks and quirks that are inevitable when moving from the lab or drawing board to real working systems.
IGCC is difficult BECAUSE it is complex, and everything has to gin together for it to work correctly. And you also have to sell management - get their buy-in - for the more expensive initial capital outlay. This is never an easy thing to do when corporate management wants to see profit ASAP!
There's one way to make management see dollar signs in IGCC. It's spelled "carbon tax".