Emergency preparedness

This morning, Atrios had an entry about emergency preparedness in this country (original link at Josh Marshall). The author of the question that Atrios posted wasn't talking about the fact that perhaps the low-lying lands in the Gulf of Mexico are unsustainable, or even that the levees were only built to withstand Category 3 storms when it was known that eventually a Category 4 or 5 would come through the region. He was talking about the mess that is the relief effort—the military not being sent in until today, the evacuation having to be suspended because shots were fired, FEMA suspending operations because it's violent in New Orleans. (Oh, and the US is currently blocking help from Canada.)
This Washington Post article talks about how FEMA has been gutted in the past several years in order to prioritize "the war on terror".
This year it was announced that FEMA is to "officially" lose the disaster preparedness function that it has had since its creation. The move is a death blow to an agency that was already on life support. In fact, FEMA employees have been directed not to become involved in disaster preparedness functions, since a new directorate (yet to be established) will have that mission.

I know that this post isn't directly related to the energy issues that Katrina has raised, but there is something important here. To take a more oil-related example: what if a coordinated attack on our oil infrastructure were carried out (as in the Oil Shockwave simulations)? What if 50% or more of our gasoline deliveries were affected? People would surely go into chaos-mode. And what we see from Katrina is that our government is not prepared to handle it.

Oddly enough, it's Emergency Preparedness Month. Did you know? According to the Dept. of Homeland Security:

National Preparedness Month is a nationwide coordinated effort held each September to encourage Americans to take simple steps to prepare for emergencies in their homes, businesses and schools. National Preparedness Month 2005 is being co-sponsored by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the American Red Cross.

But nothing on how the government is working toward greater emergency preparednes at a national level. It seems as though this would be important, because if you don't have a home, or a business, or a school, you're going to end up relying on something other than your own preparations.

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FEMA has been hammered for decades, and Homeland Security has attempted to subsune as much authority and power as it possibly can. This has resulted in Federal chaos in terms of who actually has jurisdiction, and who makes decisions. Thus Federal authorities are basically paralyzed for days after any emergency.

I do note, with a lot of "attaboys" and hope, that the state, parish and municipal authorities responded very quickly. However, with the state National Guard unable to respond with any kind of head count (Iraq), they have been overwhelmed. The Coast Guard also gets "attaboys" - they went into high gear, knew their mission, and never looked back.

I do think the problem lies with Federal agencies, which didn't have shit to say of consequence until TWO DAYS after this disaster. The president couldn't be bothered, and he should have his ass kicked for not being all over this and providing leadership. The current administration has so mucked up inter-agency lines and cooperation that it actually requires the friggin president to make anything happen.

Homeland Security should have their butts kicked too for knowing about exactly what could happen and having NO PLAN WHATSOEVER to deal with reality.

The New Orleans Levee Board should all be taken out and hung for letting their city be ruined and for allowing uncounted numbers of people to be killed. The fault for the flooding lies squarely on their corrupt shoulders in the end. New Orleaneans know this, and they share responsibility for allowing the Levee Board to become a rewarding political tub of graft and corruption.

Well, I might get flamed for this, but here goes.

(1) The current administration simply does not care for domestic spending of any stripe.

(2) The administration is peopled with operatives who are highly skilled at building electoral coalitions like Karl Rove, or at political infighting (Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld). I don't know of anyone at the top level of the administration who actually cares about the actual nuts and bolts of governing.

I am exaggerating here, but not much: regarding "FEMA," Ianqui, you have an administration that thinks that all agencies with acronyms are a boring waste of money. Not to mention a sinkhole of administrative time that buys no votes in the Republican base.

You might remember that after 9/11 the EPA flagged over 7,000 chemical plants (in a later report the number was reduced to around 5,500) that could be terrorist targets. Under pressure from the chemical industry, that did not want the expense, the administration did not push to make the plants secure. Besides, that's the kind of boring, mundane task you can't sell in  a soundbite. I mean, "emergency preparedness" is just not a phrase that grabs you when you hear it on the evening news, and Karl Rove knows that.

Is this also true about politicians in general? Absolutely, but not to this degree. Nor am I, believe it or not, slamming Republicans in general. Under Reagan and Bush I, there was always someone who read the boring bureaucratic reports and made sure that vital tasks were carried out, even if some of them weren't obvious vote getters. I can't imagine Bush I starving FEMA, especially after 9/11. I could imagine Reagan not caring about it -- but delegating the matter to someone like Michael Deaver who would keep him out of trouble on the issue. In this administration, I have come to the chilling conclusion that they simply don't care.

I won't blast above posts and want to respond in a similar vein.

I heard last night on NPR (sorry don't have the link to the spot) that National guard troops from the Gulf States have and are rotating back in from Iraq but their equipment stays, to be used by fresh troops.  

These guard troops are being used for emergency response to Katrina but most of their motorized equipment, tents, command centers, etc. are back in Iraq.  We now have a need for organized troops and equipment on our shores (the reason the Guard exists) but we have spent the last few years moving it all overseas and not replacing it here because IT COSTS TOO MUCH!

Doing things on the cheap and not asking people to pay for it up front will catch up to you eventually.

I agree with posts above.  The current administration people are not good thinkers.  All tactical and not enough long term strategy for the whole country.  Leave the mess for the next group in power.  Well they are getting caught short this time.

Its easy to criticize from afar, so I am not going to; and this isn't meant as a critique in a backhanded way but I sure the heck hope my local government(s) are better able to address serious crisis.

Official response seems lacking in so many ways, except for the Coast Guard, who just know how to save lives -- they do it all the time.

Agreed with respect to coast guard.

And lest anyone thinks I'm dissing the troops from my previous post.  The people on the ground in GOM and Mideast are working their butts off.  The problem is not with people operating aircraft, ships and trucks.  The problem is the people coordinating them from afar.

By the way, the Urban Search and Rescue team from Vancouver are very experienced; they've helped in many international disasters in the past and have a lot of experience with trapped persons rescue. The DART group I'm sure the US military has something similar - desalination plants etc.

Cafferty on CNBC asked rhetorically - "why can't they even get sandwitches" into the area for people.

call me on this one if it is off topic but

i am a little more interested in Pres. Bush's speech preparedness.  I envision a room of his top aides with Rove and whole gang saying 'talk slow so no one gets scared' and 'be sure to show confidence like you knew this would happen and you are totatlly prepared' and 'don't mention the national guard' and 'we are going to save lives not "hunt down" or "bring to justice"' and 'do not call katrina a weapon of mass destruction or a terrorist'

i hope this did not muddy the waters of this site

this is the best site on the net and i am bored at work

(admin: feel free to delete this post)

Good clean hit, imho.
I think everybody needs to realize that the entire area is overrun with storm refugees. Sandwiches? It's hard to keep grocery shelves stocked in Baton Rouge, from what I have heard. Every single hotel for HUNDREDS of miles in any direction is full!! The restaraunts and groceries are straining to keep up, and there is difficulty getting gasoline in some spots. Then you have thousands of volunteers all over trying to help people. Hospitals all around the area are crowded...

Guys, this is a very big problem. These refugees are going to run out of money soon, staying in hotels and being forced to eat out. They have no income, as their jobs are gone. They run up credit card debt trying to survive, and cannot pay it. They can't file for unemployment, can they? What about food stamps? And how many middle class people actually THINK along these lines?

So how long before THIS starts to simmer and boil, resulting in another crisis? Already local people in some areas are angry because refugees have taken first priority in the job market... there are BIG ramifications to this mess.

I think the point is... there was no immediate "disaster" relief of substance other than rooftop rescues.

Ironic... I was just going to post a link that clearly fortold of the danger, before the storm hit and just now heard Cafferty on CNN quoting someone, not sure which lamebrain official it was:

"nobody was clairavoyant enough to see this coming"

WRONG
On August 28th the Nat. Hurr. Center warned what it would be like:

http://kamala.cod.edu/offs/KLIX/0508281550.wwus74.html

A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED  
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.   check

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT  
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL  
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY  
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.  CHECK

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.  
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD  
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE  
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME  
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.  CHECK

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A  
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.  CHECK, on windows at least

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH  
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY  
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. CHECK THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE  
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE  
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.  CHECK, we can assume

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN  
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. CHECK, to be borne out in time here WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING  INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.  CHECK

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. CHECK ONLY  THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW  
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE  KILLED.  
 

Good call by the NHC. I'm glad you pointed this out.

Where was FEMA? George Junior? Homeland Security? Dick "Dick" Cheney?

Earth to the Feds, Earth to the Feds.... this is NOLA calling, this is NOLA calling....
This incident has shown just how poorly we are prepared to cope with such an emergency.  The same way 9/11 showed how poorly we understood the intent and abilities of various militants.

People who lived in the area still talked of Camille like it was yesterday.  These people KNEW the power of a hurricane to change lives.  Now we are all witnessing it thanks to 24/7 news and internet coverage.

Okay, now that this has happened, not only do we need to clean up and deal with the current mess, but we need to prepare for the next time.  The fact that killer storms don't happen on any kind of schedule makes it easy to pretend they don't happen, or won't happen in your state.  

But clearly, in spite of several years of the NHC warning that there will be "more major storms" and talk of "possible catastrophe since the gulf coast is overbuilt and difficult to evacuate quickly," we weren't paying attention.  Maybe now we will.  With a little luck, mama nature won't hit us again this season, or at least not quite so hard, so we have a chance to get back on our feet.

oops!!  BIG SOCIETAL RAMIFICATIONS to this....
I'll be Mr. Heartless for a while.  I am finding it difficult to be anything except very angry.  

(1) I think it's fitting that the country that was least interested in global warming, and where in the papers you could read that "low lying countries like Bangladesh" would be affected by it (via sea level rise), is suddenly the very country most affected by it.  Fitting also that we are experiencing the same kind of mass administrative confusion we disparage in third-world countries; that the kind of pain we assumed would be felt "elsewhere" is being felt at home.  I only hope that other people besides the poor get to suffer from this enough so we'll pay attention.  
(2) We knew this disaster would happen just as clearly as we knew 9/11 would happen.  And I recall Dick Cheney's comment during the last campaign, that if the wrong people got elected, there was a danger that we'd go back to a pre-9/11 mentality which would be very dangerous for the country.  Well, guess what?  This administration did just that - it's in a pre-9/11 mentality about everything, it seems, except 9/11.  What will they be unready for next?  Probably some epidemic we don't yet know about.
On 9/12/2001 the local free transit paper The Metro carried the burning towers on page 1 but carried warnings of environmental and health concerns on inside pages.  The message (to me) was: By what will we be blind-sided next?  
(3) Preparedness means paying attention to the world around us.  This administration is not preparing for everything, but is living on its own private planet.  In the famous remark by a Bush aide to author Ron Suskind, "we create our own reality".  They are so busy with their own agenda they seem unable to see "systems blinking red" whether it's terrorism or the environment.

In response to item 2: Try this.
And with respect to item 1, look at this.
Not heartless to me. But to be pragmatic about things, the problem lies at the Federal doorstep because they have gutted and hamstrung the states financially. States cooperate daily on issues with each other, and often band together to force the Feds to do things they feel must be done.

IMO, if the states had more authority and money to deal with these disasters, then the response would be much more effective. But the Federal government has ALL the money, and doles it out so the states will do what the Feds want them to...

There is a very interesting article in the October 2001 issie of Scientific American titled "Drowning New Orleans"

http://www.sciam.com/print_version.cfm?articleID=00060286-CB58-1315-8B5883414B7F0000

The Refugee Crisis is a total snafu. There are NO assets to deal with the 1 million plus, let alone for those from the next storm--and there will be a next one. Not since the 1930s have so many people become refugees.

The key underlying critique everyone above has pointed to is the woeful leadership, both present and past. Such leadership is no where near what is required by our current and future challenges.

I had almost forgotten it, but one of my first summer jobs was driving all over Virginia for the Corps of Engineers, identifying which buildings could be used for shelter in case of disaster (nuclear attack, or whatever).  Most people weren't too happy with the idea, so we learned to be discreet.

That data should have been collected around the Katrina area, and should still exist somewhere.

There you go, Rajiv, thanks for the link. I started a related discussion here on another thread.
And here's yet another prescient warning about the inevitability of this catastrophe:

http://www.colorado.edu/hazards/o/nov04/nov04c.html

Another excellent link on lack of hurricane preparedness in NOLA and the Gulf Coast despite decades of very detailed knowledge about the problem.

Now I hear that our "leaders" may be realizing that the levee system down there required some maintenance and enhancement. Might as well close and secure the barn door now that that horses are already gone.
Among the hapless president's comments (in between playing guitar, using up jet fuel, and clearing brush; and I paraphrase): Try not to buy [and use] so much gasoline. It's a near-repeat of his performance after 9/11 (and I paraphrase again): Don't be afraid to travel and please go shopping.
His speech of Wednesday, in which he rattled off a laundry list of goodies being (ostensibly) being shipped to the disaster region, ended with a ludicrous platitude. We'll make America stronger, he declared.  I can't help but recall how President Carter reacted after the hostage crisis began. He stayed at the White House so as to (properly) tell Americans he was working to resolve the crisis.
This is truly pitiful. New Orleans government has always been corrupt, but this shows the truth of the depth. The state in general taxes every bbl. of oil and every mcf of gas that moves though it as well as every out of state worker that works there.

There is no excuse for levys failing and pumps that won't pump. There are ways to prevent this from happening.

I am still researching this but it appears to me, Captsteve, that responsibility for this miserable failure falls equally on the state and the federal government. As far as the corruption goes, I certainly believe that....
I do agree that blame should be shared, but with all the "extra" income the state gets from oil, casinos and lottery they should be in a position to pile dirt around thier city.(yes, Iknow levys aren't that simple)
Federal government wasn't ready for Katrina, disaster experts say
Both the New Orleans Times-Picayune newspaper and a local business magazine reported that the effects of the budget cuts at the Army Corps of Engineers were severe.

In 2004, the Corps essentially stopped major work on the now-breached levee system that had protected New Orleans from flooding. It was the first such stoppage in 37 years, the Times-Picayune reported.

"It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay," Jefferson Parish emergency management chief Walter Maestri told the newspaper. "Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

The Army Corps' New Orleans office, facing a $71 million cut, also eliminated funds to pay for a study on how to protect the Crescent City from a Category 5 storm, New Orleans City Business reported in June.

Being prepared for a disaster is basic emergency management, disaster experts say.

For example, in the 1990s, in planning for a New Orleans nightmare scenario, the federal government figured it would pre-deploy nearby ships with pumps to remove water from the below-sea-level city and have hospital ships nearby, said James Lee Witt, who was FEMA director under President Clinton.
Re: Emergency Preparedness, FEMA and Pat Robertson.

Please look at my open thread post here. Perhaps TOD should consider replacing that Red Cross donation box with another pointing to Operation Blessing.
You know guys, there's a great messageboard community called RunningOnEmpty in Yahoo groups. Some of the precepts are that certain lines of discussion, both blatantly partisan and religious, are not useful. It only divides when the solution of Peak Oil is going to need a lot of adopters.

Bottom line, both parties have done nothing but offer lip service up to now when it comes to alternative energies. With oil so inexpensive, it wasn't politically expedient.

That said, I've had a tough time taking this board seriously lately, as it seems like it's degenerated into an unintelligent rambling of "hate Bush speak" - not all of you, by any means, but a good number of posters.

There is a reason why RunningOnEmpty does so well, and that's because the discussion is geared towards what we can do to solve this problem together and not along the lines of pointing fingers every other post.

Just my honest opinion...

In general, we try very, very hard to be apolitical on TOD. I hope we return to that in the future. But right now, in the face of the visceral disaster, it's hard not vent and voice frustrations. Still, I don't think anyone wants this site to become overly political, and undoubtedly the commenters will voice their opinions on the issue when necessary.
Just one other thing I wanted to say. I know many commenters here don't agree with me, but I think that regarding issues of preparedness, the government IS going to have to play a significant role in helping the citizenry get used to the idea. I've said that before with respect to peak oil awareness. It follows, then, that I should be critical of the government if I think there's a failing in that respect. I try not to be partisan—if I found out that previous administrations had been neglectful, I would point that out too. I just don't think we can address the problem until we know where the shortcomings are.

Of course, if you don't agree with my basic premise that the government will inevitably be involved, than this whole point will be moot for you.

This is a thread about emergency preparedness. I have tried to confine my remarks on this thread to that.

With respect to that topic, as far as political issues go, if "the lights are on but nobody's home" in our current administration, then I'm afraid that's what I'm going to talk about.

I apologize to no one for being political right now as people die in New Orleans.
I agree with your premise that "both parties have done nothing but offer lip service up...". However, the Republicans and George W. Bush have been running this country (incompetently) for the last 5+ years. So, they are the target as things go down hill. Prior to that, the Clinton administration and the Reagan administration did nothing about Peak Oil -- they are equally responsible for our problems. Only Jimmy Carter, who got tossed out of office, had the foresight to understand the energy problems we now face.

Re: an earlier post, I have little faith that Pat Robertson and the 700 club can run a relief effort in NOLA and the Gulf Coast. I find it offensive that they are listed along with the Red Cross as charities that will help in this post-hurricane situation.

Inevitably, everything and I mean especially Peak Oil is a political problem. What policies do we adopt? Does the leadership acknowledge the problem? etc. So don't go talking about finger-pointing and all your other nonsense, skagen.
On thing I don't get about this whole emergency preparedness thing is that if there really are only about 20 to 40 thousand people waiting to be evacuated at the Superdome, then why can't there be 500 buses that can pick them up -

I know that is a crazy question but when we bus more than 40,000 school children per day in Mineapolis alone, I guess I am just having a little trouble figuring it out.  And we feed them -

Either I am missing something or what.

Shut down Houston schools for two weeks and send the buses and the food to New Orleans -

Am I missing something?

Am I missing something?

No, it's inexcusable.  The finger pointing has already begun.  Of course, it's more than just the poor souls in the Superdome, there are thousands of people in the area (90,000 square miles estimated) that are in a world of hurt.

The first bus full of refugees to arrive at the Astrodome was stolen.  Kinda fitting, it seems...

Seems like I anticipated the following by Dr. Paul Krugman in tomorrow's New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/opinion/02krugman.html

I've been wondering what the conservative response will be, and just got this from my dittohead mother:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4784

Donal -

Having lived there, I can readily agree with the points made in that article. The New Orleans Levee Board is perhaps the most corrupt entity in the metro area, and it is going to be hard for them to dodge the bullet.

But blame for the poor response and preparedness should be distributed just like the money is, because that is what it takes to make things happen. Thus it will eventually fall at the feet of the Federal government, because they collect more taxes from each of us than any other entity. The state and local officials must then lobby Washington for redistribution of THEIR OWN MONIES back to their area. He who lobbies best, wins.

I think J would say to follow the money, and that track leads to Congress and the Whitehouse...