Sunday open thread
Posted by Yankee on September 18, 2005 - 11:39am
Topic: Miscellaneous
For your threading pleasure.
12 comments on Sunday open thread
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
| Show without comments | PDF version
12 comments on Sunday open thread
Comments can no longer be added to this story.
| Show without comments | PDF version
Search The Oil Drum with Google
Support The Oil Drum
Recently on TOD:World
TOD:Campfire
TOD:Europe
- Oilwatch Monthly November 2009
- Some predictions on the forthcoming Russian-Ukrainian gas 'crisis'
- The US stimulus and "green jobs" for wind energy
TOD:Canada
- In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
- The Round-Up: October 24, 2008
- Compressed Air Energy Storage - How viable is it?
TOD:Australia/NZ
- Australian Senate: Peak Oil motion defeated 31:6
- The Bullroarer - Friday 20th November 2009
- The Bullroarer - Friday 13th November 2009
TOD:Net Energy
Blogroll
Energy Sites
- The Coming Global Oil Crisis
- Die Off
- Dry Dipstick
- Energy Bulletin
- From the Wilderness
- Life After the Oil Crash
- Peak Oil Crisis
- Peak Oil News and Message Boards
- Powerswitch
- Rigzone
- Matthew Simmons
- Wolf at the Door
Environment & Sustainability Sites
- The Daily Green
- EcoGeek
- Eco Street
- Green Car Congress
- Green Options
- green.alltop.com
- Gristmill
- RealClimate
- Sustainablog
- Treehugger
- WorldChanging
Blogs
- The Big Picture
- Casaubon's Book
- Cleantech Blog
- Clusterf
k Nation (Jim Kunstler) - The Cost of Energy
- David Strahan
- The Energy Blog
- Entropy Production
- European Tribune
- GraphOilology
- Health After Oil
- jeffvail.net
- Mobjectivist
- Peak Energy (Australia)
- Peak Energy (USA)
- R-Squared
- Resource Insights
Finance & Economics Blogs
- Calculated Risk
- The Crash Course
- Ecological Economics
- Econbrowser
- Environmental Economics
- Infectious Greed
- The Mess That Greenspan Made
- Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
Organizations
Peak Oil Primers
Beware email scams!
Beware email scams claiming to be from this site. We do not have any job openings. If anyone contacts you about a job at The Oil Drum, do not reply to them, and definitely do not give them any personal information or send them money. Read more here.
“Considering the many productive uses of petroleum, burning it for fuel is like burning a Picasso for heat.”
—Big Oil Executive
User login
Contact
- Content: editors at theoildrum dot com
- Tech support: support at theoildrum dot com
Personnel
- Editors: Nate Hagens, Gail the Actuary, Prof. Goose
- DrumBeat Editor: Leanan
- Contributors: ace, Engineer-Poet, Heading Out, jeffvail, JoulesBurn, Sam Foucher, Robert Rapier
- TOD:Campfire: Glenn, Jason Bradford
- TOD:Europe: Chris Vernon, Euan Mearns, Francois Cellier, Jerome a Paris, Luís de Sousa, Rembrandt, Rune Likvern, Ugo Bardi
- TOD:Canada: benk, Libelle
- TOD:ANZ: Big Gav, Phil Hart, aeldric
- Emeritus: Stuart Staniford
- Technician: Super G
License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.










GAIA Host Collective
Expect GOM production to be shut in again in just another day or so, with repair crews leaving unfinished the damage left by Katrina.
If Rita goes anywhere near New Orleans, I expect that area to be evacuated again fairly quickly - due to very few usable roadways remaining to get people out.
Projected path:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT18/refresh/AL1805W5_sm2+gif/144728W_sm.gif
There are two dangerous aspects to this storm.
- It may not follow its expected trajectory due west but may turn northward (to the northwest)
- High sea surface temperatures (SSTs) in the Gulf may strengthen the storm as it passes -- this happened with Katrina
Let's hope neither of these things happen.What if Rita, which I expect the mainstream media to get wind of Monday, blows into Corpus Christi as some are saying, as a CAT4?
www.easternuswx.com
The GOM shut in production would increase sizeably - I expect that is why oil futures are up in night session. But, more broadly, is this an externality that the world will have to deal with? warmer weather hurricanes disrupting our energy buffet? One bad one does not a trend make,but stay tuned...
Love the web.. here's the links:
Summary: http://www.ems.org/climate/exec_pentagon_climatechange.pdf
Full report: http://www.ems.org/climate/pentagon_climatechange.pdf
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/18/nchill18.xml
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/editorial/outlook/3358391
Learsy's thesis is that if, hypothetically, a food OPEC were formed, everybody would come down on it like a ton of bricks. Correct. However, some sort of unclear logic eventually leads him to conclude that we ought to cope with the actual oil OPEC by cutting back on oil use by fiat: "We can no longer permit the unfettered consumption of oil. Our national honor and security depend on it."
So let's take his analogy seriously and alter the proposition to fit: "We can no longer permit the unfettered consumption of food. Our national honor and security depend on it."
Now, everybody who thinks most folks in the real world would meekly submit to an actually effective food OPEC for an indefinite time, please raise your hand.
And everybody who thinks an effective and persistent food OPEC would eventually lead to conflict, war, and ultimately the conquest of one or more of the withholding food producers, please raise your hand.
So I wonder what Learsy is trying to tell us?
US Calls Nuclear Statement by Iranian President 'Very Aggressive'
Iran threatens to use oil as weapon
Unless somebody backs down in a hurry, it could be interesting watching the oil price tomorrow.
I had a chance to speak with my neighbor and ask her how things were going in life. Just a pleasant little conversation.. During the conversation I ask her if she was aware that natural gas prices for her heating bills were going to be about 40-70% higher than last winter.. She said no.. That about floored me but then I wondered how many other people are just not aware of the price increase thats coming with this winter's heating bill and what a big surprise its going to be to them.
And today prices are up at insane levels. A new contract breakout in Natural Gas - price hasn't been this high in... perhaps ever. And NEVER in the summer, before now.
CL - up 5.5+%
NG - up 10.5+%
Gasoline - up 11+%
Heating oil up 9%
and these are the gains just today. Clearly traders are deciding better to be long than do what they did pre Katrina.
Will it last... only the aftermath will tell...
They're looking for oil. This is part of the crisis that is looming in the horizon. You should know that the U.S., I already said this, 5% of the world population lives in this country and you consume 25% of the energy. That this consumption is partially rational, I am convinced that the U.S. people will wake up to the reality of things. Yesterday morning, we were coming from the airport for instance, it was the traffic jam time, it was very packed in the highway coming from the airport here. I talked to the people in my car, looked outside, looked at the cars surrounding us. Out of a hundred cars, ninety-nine were occupied by a single person, the driver only. Cars occupying the highways, and burning fuel, how many gallons of fuel were burned yesterday morning, polluting the environment? That's the extreme of individualism.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/19/1336214
Its too bad that common sense often gets painted as extremism. I suspect there is much about Chavez that I would not like and could not support, but he is right about this subject... we are an arrogant species, humans, by and large but no where more arrogant than in the civilized west where we have believed that technology and innovation can beat nature and common sense.