Tuesday open thread
Posted by Yankee on February 14, 2006 - 12:37pm
Topic: Miscellaneous
(Here's a link in case you need any fodder...)
Update [2006-2-14 13:59:43 by Yankee]: And yet more fodder: U.S. Has Royalty Plan to Give Windfall to Oil Companies
WASHINGTON, Feb. 13 — The federal government is on the verge of one of the biggest giveaways of oil and gas in American history, worth an estimated $7 billion over five years.New projections, buried in the Interior Department's just-published budget plan, anticipate that the government will let companies pump about $65 billion worth of oil and natural gas from federal territory over the next five years without paying any royalties to the government.
Based on the administration figures, the government will give up more than $7 billion in payments between now and 2011. The companies are expected to get the largess, known as royalty relief, even though the administration assumes that oil prices will remain above $50 a barrel throughout that period.



Andrew Weissman took looked real closely at the implications (financially) of a massive LNG strategy
The potential 2025 contribution of LNG imports to the U.S balance of payments deficit is potentially 1 to 2 X the current total U.S. balance of trade deficit, which is at an all time record level (viz., $ 58.3 billion for January of 2005, the most recent month for which data is available). Even for a country with a $ 13 trillion per year Gross Domestic Product (GDP), these are staggering figures.
Over the 20 to 25 year life of these new supply projects, the required payments by U.S. purchasers are likely to total more than the budget for the entire federal government (with over 2.5 million employees) in any one year.
Or the liklihood that supplies will materialize as anticipated
Despite the overall strength of the U.S. economy, the U.S. could be at a significant disadvantage in competing
for these supplies.
We are running the largest trade deficit in U.S. history - and the largest trade deficit of any country in the
world. In part as a direct result, the value of the dollar is expected to continue to decline sharply over the next
several years.
Further, because of our location, for every current producer other than Trinidad, the amount of time a tanker
must travel in order to complete a delivery to the U.S. and therefore the cost of shipping LNG to the U.S.
market is significantly greater than for any other potential customer except Mexico. With tankers potentially
costing up to $ 250 million each, this is a significant disincentive to sell into the U.S. market.
It also means that, by definition, a U.S. manufacturer using LNG will be at a competitive disadvantage to almost
every other manufacturer worldwide, since (due to the shipping cost differential) the cost of LNG delivered to
the U.S. market inevitably will be higher than in any other market in the world.
Or the susceptibility to interruptions this would place us in.
If we rely heavily on LNG imports from West Africa or the Middle East, therefore, and the government in a
host country is overthrown, a strike temporarily shuts down production or, in the case of a Middle East
producer, shipments through the Strait of Hormuz are temporarily blocked, there may be a very real risk that
we'll not be able to keep homes warm in the middle of the winter or that the lights will go out in the summer.
Even if shortages never occur, however, from a pricing standpoint, the potential consequences of a supply
disruption in the LNG market, even for a short period, could also be severe - even if it involves only a single
major LNG project supplying the U.S. market.
THe article is a good read. LNG really makes no sense as a solution, except to the LNG distributers.
http://www.physics.unc.edu/about/robertsonseminars/weissmanlng.pdf
But my idea for a poll is this? What is your view of the net result of Peak Oil. 5 categories ranging from no effect to stone age by 2025. Then what time frame do you envision the net result happening. 5 categories of time frames for that. Then make a nice little matrix of the two.
I just think it would be interesting to see where everyone falls out in the matrix. What's everyone think?
As for timing, by 2025 I expect no more than "the greatest depression" - whereas I hold out hope that by 2100 we will have made it to the new stone age.
He said:
At least thats the catastrophic theorist's viewpoint... all those hidden stresses building up for a break to a new attractor (temporary equilibrium) point.
For Immediate Release
Date of Release: Feb. 14, 2006
From: Willits Economic LocaLization (WELL)
Contact: Spring Senerchia, 707-459-1256; spring@redinet.org
Subject: Regional Localization Networking Conference
Improving and coordinating the efforts of groups working towards sustainable, localized economies is the focus of a conference to be held in Willits, CA from April 7-9, 2006.
The conference aims to share best practices on group organization and activities, develop consistent messages for the public, politicians and business leaders, and foster on-going communication among localization practitioners. A Saturday evening presentation by David A. Schaller, Sustainable Development Coordinator of the US Environmental Protection Agency is included in the weekend activities.
The "relocalization" movement is especially active in Northern California and Oregon (see: http://postcarbon.org/_tmp_maps/NorthAmericaOutpostsImageMap.html), and while anyone is welcome to register, preference is given to attendees from this region. Each local group is encouraged to send one application form with a list of delegates to the conference. These forms are available at: http://www.willitseconomiclocalization.org/RLNC.pdf
Willits Economic LocaLization (WELL) sponsors this event. WELL's mission is to foster the creation of a sustainable economy based on local resources. (See: www.willitseconomiclocalization.org).
I find it interesting that there hasn't been a thread yet on James Lovelock's dire prediction about climate change, as published in the Independent on Jan. 16 (unless I missed it?):
Posted on Energy Bulletin - "The world has already passed the point of no return for climate change, and civilisation as we know it is now unlikely to survive, according to James Lovelock"
http://www.energybulletin.net/12126.html
His book Revenge of Gaia is not due for publication in N. America for a month or two, so I suppose that has something to do with it. Still, his views have huge implications for a post-peak-oil society - especially since some think we're going to have to rely on coal for a myriad of uses for a time. Imagine the additional environmental havoc! Anyone read the above article yet? Thoughts? It's brought back that acute sinking feeling in my heart and stomach that I carried around after I found out about PO...I guess I got used to it. My brother has 3 little kids and it gives me shivers to think about what their adulthood will be like. What my "golden years" will be like...
Civilisation a century will be very different than now just like civilisation now is very different than 1906. Life for the average person could be much better than now.
http://www.emagazine.com/view/?3066
Well, except maybe the chickens. Bird flu, y'know. ;-)
Seriously, it seems like a reasonable way to cover your bets, without spending too much money. If the energy crunch doesn't start to bite for 50 years, you haven't given up your job, etc. If the zombie hoards are roaming within five years, well, at least you have neighbors to help you defend your vegetable patch. :-/
Having actually kept chickens for a few years, they seem to react in enclosed spaces much like rats and humans-- they start tearing at each other's feathers and generally exhibit stress due to crowding. Our chickens, (circa 1997-2000), were free range during the day, were absolutely healthy and produced eggs too large to fit in a carton. Our rooster seemed to keep them all safe in a habitat that included dogs, coyotes, feral cats and snakes. (They also all had names and distinct personalities).
OTOH...all the avian flu sites I keep up with report today of confirmed cases as far north in the EU as the Baltic Sea. I have no idea if the vaccine that the Asian countries are using is effective or not, at this point, but I would think that sooner or later federal action/local hysteria would demand that you cull. I think it's pretty iffy right now.
Mexican oil output could drop sharply - report
I ask Shaw's question. Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?
Bingo! The basic model of how the market works, esp. in terms of the role played by inventories, is changing as we (s)peak, and the commodities traders haven't noticed yet.
With the news that Iran has begun centrifuging uranium, plus all the oil and natural gas stats everyone here can cite ad infinitum, one would expect the market prices of oil and NG to be significantly higher.
It will happen, eventually, but the sooner the prices start to rise before there are supply disruptions, the better.
People are just trading on trends and perception. I am more convinced than ever that only a shock, due to scarcity, will wake people up to how fragile our supply is. People just expect energy to be there, no matter what the cost. And if there is any surplus in storage than the price has to go down due to over supply. No thoughts at all about our need 1,2 or 3 months ahead.
At this point I truly do not think most people can comprehend scarcity. It might get expensive but if I borrow the money in winter "they" will deliver my gas or oil. I will pay for it later. If everybody has this mindset, price is not going to do much in the short run to prevent scarcity when demand finally overtakes supply.
We have been lucky this winter. What about next winter when supply will be even tighter? I worry about the herd mentality. Everything is just fine now but could turn to panic very quickly with a shock.
A handful, at most, in a century.
We are driven to understand the "breaks" but "continuity" remains both the norm, and the statistical answer.
Those coworkers on the "budget plan" aren't thinking about scarcity at all. They figure on "pay them and it will come"! This with "budget plans" or any other creative financing should be outlawed so you pay as you go per month, just like your car and the dreaded gas pump. As we know here, NG is not exempt from peaking and scarcity.
BTW, I have thought of a way to ship natural gas with normal oil tankers. You make it into diesel. You can use the diesel to heat homes, use it in transport systems, etc. Some NG at origin point can be made into gasoline for cars. No need for going around with LNG as cold as liquid air. Time to re-nozzle home heating systems... again! Yes, you waste petroleum energy in converting NG to heavier hydrocarbons, but no need to waste energy again to heat a ridiculously cold liquid. And oil tankers aren't as tempting as LNG tankers.
What a waste. Energy to chill NG to cryoliquid, energy wasted keeping it cold, and energy wasted to reheat it. That's why we would be better off making the NG into room-temp liquid and load it onto existing tankers. If you need room-temp gas fuel, you could convert methane to ethane or propane which can be held liquid at room temp albeit pressurised. For "natural gas" users, ethane would work out best. Pump out the liquid from the bottom of the tanker, and let it reboil in the pipe. Doing that with a cryoliquid would create artificial permafrost!
Both would proably be commercially interested in any specific project you have in mind.
Landfill gas Over 1000 MWe of electricity are being generated today from landfill gas, referred to in the waste landfill trade as "LFG". It can readily fuel piston engines and turbine prime movers. Potential is for 3-5x this via better technology, which is coming into play at Yolo County CA and elsewhere. Thus the US potential for landfill gas is between 150,000 and 250,000 barrels oil equivalent (BOE) per day. Plus you are addressing global warming by more efficiently recovering methane that is tenfold the potency of carbon dioxide on a volume basis. The energy potential is large simply because of the large amount of waste > 150,000,000 tons of largely organic material that the US landfills each year. This much waste can make a lot of methane. Without getting into detail, I will just say that, in essence, there is still a lot of potential for more development and optimization of LFG technlogy. There are problems to be overcome--for example effects of gaseous silicon compounds (of all things) that leave deposits in combustion systems.
Sewage Methane from sewage is about 20% of the energy potential of methane from LFG. and use is very roughly 50'% of the amount collected
Manure The biggest developer of manure digesters in the western hemisphere has been RCM digesters and Mark 'Moser of Berkeley/Oakland, who we (IEM, Inc and Yolo County) talk to regularly. The exploitation of manure to methane is much less advanced than LFG, with the exploited potential of manure methane (or biogas) being under 5% , but the business today is booming, such that there is a large backlog for RCM and others installing digester systems. Manure solids and convertibility make the methane potential roughly 2x that of landfill gas
These biomethane sources are to date best suited to local use and primarily electricity genration, although a little bit of pipeline gas is made. In our big study for California Dairy farmers we document the use of biogas in fueling vehicles in the 'European Union. Google Westen United Regional Dairymen (WURD) and methane.
Steve Andrews of ASPO-USA has called these technlogies "silver bb's" which is a great term for energy resource that is smaller than a silver bullet.
Based on manure, sewage and solid waste solids available to make methane, I would give the net energy potential of these resources together at over 500,000 boe per day for the US. The climate benefit can be enormous because of methane's greenhouse potency. In addition atmospheric methane is also connected in a complex way to the Antarctic polar "ozone hole" (Blake and Rowland) and there are a lot of other angles to this.
This is why we need education about our energy situation and good public policy--to fight the natural tendency of people to focus on their immediate sitution and not extend their planning horizon.
Keynes never said the long run does not matter. He made a one-liner put-down quip.
Keynes thought that the long run mattered most and that in this long run the decisive elements were technological advances and exponential growth.
See his classic essay, widely republished, "Economic Possibilities for our Grandchildren."
JMK, where are you now that we need you?
http://macroblog.typepad.com/macroblog/2006/02/betting_on_ben_.html
and predict that the Fed, under new chairman Ben Bernanke, will continue to raise rates a quarter point at each of its next two meetings. This is a little more "hawkish" behavior than had previously been expected, when the Fed was thought likely to level off after maybe another raise.
JDH at Econbrowser is among those who fear that the Fed is going too far too fast, and that its inflation-fighting zeal is only going to succeed in sending the economy into recession. Supposedly though Bernanke means to quell worries that he will be too soft on inflation by putting on a show of toughness right off the bat.
If things go bad as JDH fears, a U.S. slowdown would likely impact the rest of the world as American imports are a major economic driver these days. This could lead to a scenario with a softening of oil demand and a drop in prices over the next couple of years.
As for oil prices a dollar appreciation will hurt oil importing countries and this will be another source of reduced demand. So, yes it is quite possible that we see a significant price drop - in the next few years supply capacity will probbaly remain flat, while demand will probably drop much faster. I don't see it as a good thing though.