Gasoline Prices Part II: Long-Term Factors

Introduction

In Part I, I discussed the short term factors that have resulted in the recent, rapid increase in the price of gasoline. But there are a number of underlying, long-term issues that have been major contributors. I will attempt to address them and answer a number of related questions, such as: Why have no new refineries been built in the past 30 years? Are U.S. refineries breaking down more than normal? Are oil companies purposely withholding supplies to keep prices high? Have environmental regulations played a role? Does the use of ethanol influence gasoline demand growth? The answers to some of these questions may surprise you.

Please note that my essays should not be confused with financial advice. Following Part I, I received a number of e-mails requesting financial advice. While there are often potential financial implications, I am not a financial planner. If you choose to make investment decisions based on what you read here, you are on your own.

Further note that it is not my contention that refiners are not benefiting from higher prices. They are. But my contention is that prices aren't higher because they have increased margins. Margins have increased because prices are higher.

U.S. Refinery Capacity

The problem, I have read on many occasions, is that we aren't building any new refineries, and that "limiting refinery capacity seems to make more money for oil companies than expanding it." Claims like the following from the Foundation for Consumer and Taxpayer Rights - are quite common:

America's big oil companies figured out long ago that they could make more money by making less gasoline. That's why the industry hasn't built a new refinery in 30 years. Since deregulation of the refinery business in 1982, oil consumption has increased 33% but oil companies have kept refining capacity near what it was 25 years ago. Why not? They know that the scarcer the product, the bigger the profit.

Even members of the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources seem to believe this, with New Jersey Senator Robert Menendez recently commenting in a Senate hearing on gas prices:

Senator Menendez: Isn't there a reality that we are paying for some industry decisions that actually reduced refining capacity in this country? I mean there was a time that we had greater refining capacity, and the industry reduced that refining capacity, and as a result of making that decision, consumers today find themselves with exactly the consequences that you have described in your testimony before.

There are elements of fact and elements of fiction in the preceding statements. So, what's the scoop? Are oil companies cutting refinery capacity in order to boost profits?

In the past 10 years, refining capacity in the U.S. has increased by about 2 million barrels per day, which is equivalent to about 10 good-sized refineries. Capacity expansions equivalent to 8 more new refineries have been announced for the next 4 years (although some refiners have recently suggested that some expansions may be put on hold as a result of the stated goal of reducing gasoline consumption by 20% in 10 years - in order to avoid an oversupply situation). So while it is true that new refineries aren't being built, it is certainly not true that capacity is stagnant. There are several reasons for expanding existing refineries as opposed to building new ones.

First, it is less expensive per barrel to expand an existing refinery than to build a new one. The estimates I have seen suggest that existing refineries can be expanded at 60% of the per barrel cost of building a new refinery. Second, the permitting process for building a new refinery is onerous. A group in Arizona has been trying to build a new refinery, and it took them 7 years just to get the permit. If they proceed and build the refinery, it will have taken 13 years from the time they started the process. (Even as I was working on this essay, they have announced a further 1 year delay). Finally, while everyone seems to want more refining capacity, nobody seems to want a refinery in their community. This makes building a new refinery next to impossible. As Investor's Business Daily recently asked Senator Chuck Schumer: "Just where in New York state would you like a new refinery to be built...?"

However, the critics are correct on one point. Starting in the early 80's, U.S. refining capacity did drop significantly, before beginning to climb back up in the 90's. The reason for this is quite simple: There was far more refining capacity than was warranted by the demand. The result was that gasoline was $1.00 a gallon, and many oil companies were losing money. Many refineries shut down. Some oil companies went out of business. Property values in "oil towns" like Houston plummeted. Yet many view oil companies as if they are public utilities. But the majority are owned by shareholders, who expect a return on their investment. Billions of dollars of capital are risked in this business, and if the rewards are poor (or negative), the risks won't be taken.

No industry can be expected to maintain high production levels in the face of poor or even negative margins. If milk producers make too much milk, prices fall and some producers go out of business. When that happens, supply is reduced and prices go up. The same is true for any other business. Yet people don't accept this very well in the case of oil companies, because many have come to view cheap gas as an entitlement.

U.S. Senator Ron Wyden has spent quite a bit of time investigating these issues, and his view is probably typical with respect to the evolution of refining capacity:

The Oil Industry, Gas Supply and Refinery Capacity: More Than Meets the Eye

In this report, Senator Wyden presents a number of "smoking guns", such as this internal Texaco document from 1996:

“As observed over the last few years and as projected well into the future, the most critical factor facing the refining industry on the West Coast is the surplus refining capacity, and the surplus gasoline production capacity. The same situation exists for the entire U.S. refining industry. Supply significantly exceeds demand year-round. This results in very poor refinery margins, and very poor refinery financial results. Significant events need to occur to assist in reducing supplies and/or increasing the demand for gasoline.”

Senator Wyden skipped right past the part about poor margins and poor financial results, and focused on the "smoking gun", that either supplies needed to be reduced or demand for gasoline increased. He then gives a list of the refineries that have closed since the mid-90's, apparently failing to connect these events with "poor refining margins." Here are the refineries he lists that closed in 1995:

Indian Refining Lawrenceville, IL
Cyril Petrochemical Corp. Cyril, OK
Powerine Oil Co. Sante Fe Springs, CA
Sunland Refining Corp. Bakersfield, CA
Caribbean Petroleum Corp. San Juan, Puerto Rico

Do you recognize any of those names? Probably not, because most of the companies that shut down did so because they went out of business. Margins were too poor to remain in business for some. For others, it was failure to comply with environmental regulations (some of the closed refineries are now Superfund sites). Yet Senator Wyden presents a picture in which it was a systematic and cooperative effort between oil companies to reduce refining capacity - and that refinery capacity should have been maintained at any cost (as long as oil company shareholders are the ones to bear those costs). Somehow "the industry" is culpable for the closure of a number of marginal producers - many of whom went completely out of business. But it was years of poor returns in this cyclical business that drove down refining capacity.

Even in the past 10 years, refinery margins have turned negative on numerous occasions. The problem is that many people take a snapshot of the current view and believe this is normal. See the data that the IEA has accumulated (XLS download warning). Shall we expect that those who are calling for measures to be taken to address the current refinery margin situation will be calling for the government to extend a helping hand the next time margins go negative? Somehow, I doubt it. (Incidentally, for those who think oil companies have boosted their margins by raising prices, how do you explain the incredible variability from month to month? How do you explain negative margins?)

Paul Sankey, an analyst with Deutsche Bank, testified on May 15th before the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources. He pointed out the long-term factors that have resulted in the refinery capacity we have today:

The reason for the massive recent run up in prices can be traced back to the last significant period of high prices, in the late 1970s, which forced lower gasoline demand, then more efficient cars, which led to excess refining capacity, which led to years of poor returns in refining (and cheap gasoline prices), which disincentivised investment in refining and encouraged demand, and which has ultimately led to today’s intense market tightness.

The bottom line on the refinery capacity issue is that yes, refining capacity has been reduced at times. And there were perfectly valid reasons that this happened. It is also true that capacity is short at the moment - if the objective is to maintain sub-$3 gasoline prices. But, reduced investment in refining capacity is indeed a key factor behind the current gasoline price spike. If some want to level the charge that refiners failed to accurately anticipate demand growth, then that charge is accurate. But like the rest of us, refiners don't have crystal balls.

Are Oil Companies Purposely Withholding Supplies?

This charge has been repeated quite a bit lately. Oil companies are either accused of withholding supplies ala OPEC, or they are accused of stretching out their maintenance in order to keep supplies low. Let's address that.

In a very tight market, events that take supply off of the market are likely to drive prices higher. In light of that, would it be a wise business practice if BP, for instance, purposely slowed down the maintenance at their Whiting, Indiana refinery that is partially closed due to a fire? Not a chance. When BP has supply off the market, it benefits everyone BUT BP. They are foregoing money every day they have that capacity offline. The refinery manager at Whiting will have part of his performance graded based on the financial returns of his refinery. The longer the supply is offline, the worse that grade will be.

Consider a couple of examples. Say that you operate a 200,000 barrel a day refinery. Margins are quite good right now - let's say in your area they are $20 a barrel. So, when the refinery is running normally, you are grossing $4 million a day. Would it make good business sense to cut your capacity in half - to 100,000 barrels a day? While such action would probably cause the overall price of gasoline to rise, it is going to have a disproportionate effect on your refinery. If margins go up to $30 a barrel (although there is no way taking 100,000 barrels off the market would impact margins to that degree), you are still $1 million a day worse of than you were. You have given up $365 million a year in order to reduce your capacity. You would have made an incredibly stupid business decision. In fact, you would be much better off if you could boost capacity by 100,000 barrels a day. Sure, prices might slightly drop, but your overall profits will be higher, especially in such a tight market.

Furthermore, you don't know if Shell down the street might be able to make up the production shortfall, pocketing the money that would have been made by your refinery. (Contrary to popular opinion, oil companies do not consult each other on such issues). You also don't know if exporters from Europe will respond. If they respond by boosting exports to the U.S., now they are pocketing the money that your refinery is losing. In summary, this is not a rational way to conduct business - unless your margins are negative. You would be making a decision that will certainly cut the returns at your refinery, while not knowing how your competitors will respond to the supply shortfall.

For another example that many can relate to, consider that you wish to put your house on the market. Housing prices in your area have been outstanding, and you want to capitalize. However, you are afraid that by putting your house on the market, you may boost the supply in your area and cause prices to fall. So, you decide to be a charitable neighbor and keep your house off of the market in order to maintain prices for everyone else. You will sell some other time, even though the market may not be as good. If your primary objective is to capitalize on the good housing market, have you made a rational business decision? Of course not. The same is true regarding the charge that oil companies are deliberately prolonging maintenance. It just wouldn't make good business sense in this market.

Are Refineries Breaking Down More Than Normal?

It certainly seems each week brings several new refinery outages. While refineries still have not reached pre-Hurricane Katrina production levels, most of the outages that you read about are the kinds of things that happen every year. Practically all refineries have one or more unplanned outages each year. Most years, when the market is amply supplied, these sorts of events don't make the news. But this year, as we have seen, is very different.

As the afore-mentioned Paul Sankey testified:

The poor returns of the 1980s and 1990s have indirectly caused some additional external events that have played into the problems. The years of losing money caused companies to neglect refining investment, culminating in BP’s Texas City disaster. Texas City has now rightly caused other refiners to operate more cautiously – and so less capacity is available.

A second impact of years of reduced investment has been a lack of qualified engineering, procurement and construction staff. One vital issue here is that the tightness of US refining capacity at this time is not because companies are unwilling to invest in more capacity, it is that they are unable.

Refineries are complex. Heat is being added to flammable materials, and the entire chain of events depends on a steady supply of raw materials, equipment, and qualified people to keep things running smoothly. Equipment is going to break down. A refinery is much more complex than your car. Yet you would not be surprised if your 30-year old car had annual maintenance problems.

While this year's outages may be somewhat above average, similar outages happen every year. The only difference is that most years there is enough spare capacity that the outages go unnoticed by the media.

The Impact of Environmental Regulations

Let me make it clear that I am in favor of the environmental regulations we have in place. They have made our air and water cleaner. But there is a price to be paid for those regulations, and consumers should understand that, as they are the ones who will ultimately bear those costs.

There are several things that can happen when a new regulation is implemented. First, new regulations may redirect capital that might have gone into expanding refining facilities. Second, they may increase the costs of producing the fuel. Third, additional processing, as in the case of ultra-low sulfur diesel (ULSD) and gasoline - can reduce the overall product yield. Fourth, and perhaps of greatest importance, additional equipment will increase the complexity of the refinery.

Those are the consequences. The more complex the refineries are, the more unreliable they are going to be. With each additional complexity that is added, there are more ways for them to break down. There is more danger as the inventory of hazardous materials increases. Politicians who are quick to point fingers should understand that they make their own contribution to supply shortages. If they are going to hold hearings on gas prices, they needn't ponder "Gosh, I wonder why prices are going up?" Stricter environmental regulations - necessary as they may be - are one more piece of the puzzle. They have helped crimp supplies and add to costs.

Investor's Business Daily recently touched on this:

Our refineries are doing more than ever, but their numbers are dwindling and no new ones are being built. The reason is not greed, but cost and regulations. From 1994 to 2003, the refining industry spent $47.4 billion, not to build new refineries, but to bring existing ones into compliance with ever new and stringent environmental rules. That's where those allegedly excessive profits go.

I think most people are willing to pay higher prices for a cleaner environment, but it is important that they understand that this is a component of fuel prices.

The Ethanol Factor

It is a fact that ethanol only contains about 65% of the energy content of gasoline on a volumetric basis. Therefore, to displace the gross energy content of 1 gallon of gasoline requires 1/0.65, or 1.5 gallons of ethanol. What this means is that as ethanol is put into the gasoline pool, demand will go up simply because the pool now contains less energy. Is this enough to explain why motor gasoline demand (which includes blended ethanol) is at a record high?

In March of 2007, ethanol contributed 539 million gallons to the gasoline pool, according to the Renewable Fuels Association (RFA). This is almost 50% greater than the 365 million gallon ethanol demand in March of 2006. Gasoline demand in March, according to the Energy Information Administration, averaged 9.266 million barrels per day (up from 9.076 a year earlier). Total gasoline demand in March was then 9.266 million * 31 days * 42 gallons/bbl, or 12.06 billion gallons. The breakdown would have then been 11.52 billion gallons of gasoline and 0.54 billion gallons of ethanol. (Ethanol imports have been omitted as their impact would have been pretty small).

The energy content, however, of the 12.1 billion gallons would have been equivalent to 11.52 gallons of gasoline plus 0.54 billion gallons of ethanol * 0.65 (factoring the lower energy content), or 11.87 billion gallons of gasoline equivalent fuel. Therefore, our perceived gasoline demand is 1.9% (12.06/11.87) higher than it would be without ethanol in the pool.

In other words, part of the record high gasoline demand we are currently experiencing is due to the fact that ethanol is scaling up rapidly, and it is being counted in the finished motor gasoline pool. Even if demand was constant on a BTU basis, increasing the fraction of ethanol in the pool will increase the volume demand.

Conclusions

While the immediate cause of skyrocketing gas prices is a combination of record demand and low gasoline inventories in the U.S., several longer-term factors have contributed. Following years of poor returns and expensive new environmental regulations, investments into expanding existing refineries dried up. Many refineries closed their doors permanently, as a number of smaller producers went completely out of business in the 80's and 90's. The cumulative effect was that refining capacity fell starting in the early 80's, but has recently been climbing back as margins have improved. Just as we were in an oversupply situation in the 80's, we are now in an undersupply situation if the goal is to keep gasoline below $3.00/gallon. However, refining capacity has increased significantly in the past 10 years, and looks to continue this trend in the foreseeable future. But demand growth has remained robust in the face of higher prices, so an oversupply situation in which gasoline returns to $2/gal does not appear likely in the foreseeable future.

Good points Robert, but reminds me of a comment my father used to quote. " Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up!" Good luck with the agenda driven Congress and the clueless motoring public.

Hey everyone, don't forget Reddit and Digg!

During the OPEC oil embargo, there were all sorts of claims about oil companies holding tankers off the US Coasts and oil storage tanks practically overflowing.

As a young engineer, I took this with a grain of salt, but it also served to show that anything that directly affects lifestyle where it is the lifestyle that causes large demands on supply margins are things that Americans may not readily wish to accept.

I worked for a engineering firm that was big into 'gasohol' in the early 1980's, but many of my coworkers took off for Texas (and other locations) to work for the oil companies. A few years later, the were back doing something else. In my own company, we were fortuante to have bought ourselves away from the parent engineering firm because 5 months after that sale was complete, that parent engineering firm filed bankruptcy and went out of business.

Just as it has taken a long time (and many tortuous paths) to get to where we are today, it will take informed choices to develop the silver BBs we need now and in the future. As one person in the federal government asked me, "what will it take to get people to understand?"

"A terrible shock," I replied, "with attention getting properties of the Anna Nicole Smith death or Paris Hilton going to jail, that will shake us to our cores." As some of the Congressional investigations seem to imply, people want a cheap simple fix so that they can go on with what's really important in their lives.

The Whiting refinery is down, there was the Imperial refinery fire in Canada, and other problems as well.

With Iran stating it wanted to build five refineries in Asia in addition to other refinery projects planned for Asia it seems the higher consumption rate of some non-OECD countries will divert new crude supplies away from the US. Numerous currencies were strengthening compared to the dollar, thus oil was becoming more affordable for them. The preemptive war is taking its toll on America.

I have read rumors on the board that the refineries cannot get the type of crude they want. If this is true, you get builds in heavy sour and draw downs in light sweet. I cannot prove it.

Worldwide car sales seem to be outpacing supply thus we have $3.00 + gasoline in the shoulder season without a hurricane and no major build in supplies ahead of hurricane season and the winter.

Here is a good question for everyone!

World gdp=45 trillion

us gdp maybe >3 trillion?

North American GDP maybe 4 trillion max.

now do you sell oil to 4 trillion worth of people, or 40?

I'd sell to 40 after fleecing the 4. (this ignores that canada and mexico are USA's #1,#2 oil suppliers)

You're only off a few trillion.

IMF figures:

World GDP: 48.1 trillion
North American GDP: 15.3 trillion

That's 1/3rd of the world, not 1/10th

whoops!

i guess i was thinking about the US federal government tax, and not the country as a whole. My mistake!

please continue selling oil to 1/3rd of the worlds gpd.

If you want a good visual of GDP, check out the first map on this link.

http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/

Best regards from Western Canada,

Mose in Midland

I think the ethanol has a double impact for raising summer prices:

1. The lower BTU impact you talk about.
2. Required adjustments to the gasoline base (RBOB) to which it is added which tend to reduce the amount of gasoline produced in the summer months.

The relatively lower amount of gasoline produced from a barrel of crude also has an adverse impact on prices. Since ethanol is now used primarily in the summer months, this is basically a summer-months issue, and helps to drive up prices in the summer. This issue may actually help gasoline supplies (and prices!) in the winter, if the fractions that must be removed when ethanol is added can be added back in outside of the summer months.

I tried to explain this a little more here.

Speaking of the ethanol impact, I have noticed in my neck of the woods that the higher grades which use ethanol are now higher than in the past. Used to see them stay at ten cents higher for each grade, 87 89 91. now they are 12 or sometimes 15 cents higher per grade.

I can only quess its because of the ethanol costs, but maybe not.

Quid Clarius Astris
Ubi Bene ibi patria

In Minnesota E-85 sells at forty cents per gallon less than 87 octane regular. We are, of course, a pro-ethanol state.

Don
I'm curious if you know if it sells at that price differential. Assuming gas is selling for $3/gal in Minnesota, that would make the BTU content equal to about $2.10/gal for E85. At 2.60, I wouldn't think anyone would buy it. I've been told by a rural Nebraska supplier that he stopped carrying E85, because even in the middle of the corn growers, they wouldn't buy it because it wasn't economical for their big pickups and Suburbans, etc. (Don't know what the price differential was at the time.) A vehicle that gets 17mpg on regular, gets 12mpg on E85. Of course, I think our state vehicles are mandated to use it. Maybe your state has additional mandated vehicles running on it. One way they can "cheat", is that E85 can contain between 15-30% gasoline. Since it doesn't work well in cold, this is the time of year Minnesota sales of it should be high if they are going to use it at all!
Thanks for the article, RR.

The costs at the pump and these numbers make me wonder. why the cost of the extra octane at the pump is 20 cents or more a gallon higher that regular.

How much ethanol is needed (whats the octane of the Ethanol
rating in Minn at at the pump.

Seems to me if you are running a high octane vehicle it would be worth your while to drop in a gallon of ethanol or so (you could figure it out to be close) with 19 gallons of reg. and save some decent money.

Quid Clarius Astris
Ubi Bene ibi patria

My reliable sources tell me that for driving a flexfuel Ford Taurus that there is no difference in cost between driving on E-85 and regular 87 octane. I think that is because the engine has been optimized for driving at higher octane than 87, and of course, ethanol boosts octane rating.

Were any mtbe needed to boost the gasoline to 87, or is ethanol added to the blend of all grades, is ethanol in 87. Robert seemed to be surprised that 87 was the standard octane in many states. I have never seen 85, except maybe in Denver, I don't think I saw it in LA.

What is the octane rating from the refined "gasoline" and where do they start adding ethanol to up the octane.

Quid Clarius Astris
Ubi Bene ibi patria

In Minnesota ethanol at 10% is added to all grades of gasoline with few exceptions. You can get pure gasoline with no ethanol in it, but in the seven county Metro area you have to pay hyper premium prices to get it at very very few gas stations.

Great key post, Robert! I enjoy your writing-its concise, easily understood and very balanced. One suggestion, when the trolls show up, and you are their favorite target, don't respond immediately. Allow them any response and they are gratified. I know its contrary to the Aggie way, but its the best response. Immediate attention only fuels their refinery fire.

Regarding quality of the keypost, agree 100%. Very good stuff Robert.

Lets see we go from how hard it is to raise new capacity, because of course REGULATION, to we've actually added 2 millions barrels of new capacity, but no distinction as to what type of capacity gasoline vrs everything else. And while FCTR is taken to task for saying no new capacity, Investor Business Daily is quoted later in piece and agreed by the author with saying the same thing, because why, it's regulation not the oil industries.

But best,

It is a fact that ethanol only contains about 65% of the energy content of gasoline on a volumetric basis. Therefore, to displace the gross energy content of 1 gallon of gasoline requires 1/0.65, or 1.5 gallons of ethanol. What this means is that as ethanol is put into the gasoline pool, demand will go up simply because the pool now contains less energy.

Which as the new oil industry mantra goes, less ethanol equals higher gasoline prices, more ethanol means higher gasoline prices, and again this is an equation from the top of the industry which doesn't include any recognition of peak.

Bend over the and grab your ankles, the oil industry is driving.

Really good post, very informative.

Even if demand was constant on a BTU basis, increasing the fraction of ethanol in the pool will increase the volume demand.

IMO, it's a very important observation. we don't consume barrels but BTU (i.e. energy). The share of low energy density fuels (NGPL, ethanol, etc.) has increased greatly on a volume basis since 2010 but strong growth in volume does not imply necessarily that the demand growth for BTUs has been satisfied.

I'm not sure that I understand ". . . does not imply necessarily that the demand growth for BTUs has been satisfied." As Robert has stated on numerous occasions, whenever an oil or refinery company wants to buy some crude, it can (although at a high price).

In my opinion, this evidence that Robert has presented (and to the best of my knowledge nobody has questioned) is very persuasive on the side of the debate which says that we probably have not reached peak liquids yet in terms of BTUs.

As Robert has stated on numerous occasions, whenever an oil or refinery company wants to buy some crude, it can (although at a high price).

I can buy a Rolls Royce at any time I want to (although at a high price), but why isn't everyone driving a Rolls Royce?

The question is, what about the refineries that can't afford to buy crude oil at these prices? Regarding adequate OECD crude oil inventories, check out a map of the areas of the world not covered by these statistics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:OECD-memberstates.png

Based on EIA (crude + condensate) data, the cumulative shortfall between what the world would have produced at the 5/05 rate and what we actually produced worldwide is on the order of 500 mb.

The average monthly Brent crude oil price in the 20 months prior to 5/05 was $38. The average monthly Brent crude oil price since 5/05 has been about $62, within a range of $54 to $74, and we are currently in the upper end of that range.

When we are at a geological peak, I would expect cases of refineries offering very high prices ($100+ per barrel) and being told that they amount they want to buy cannot be supplied from anywhere.

Granted, Robert's evidence is not conclusive, but I still find it highly persuasive.

I'm not sure that Robert is claiming that proximity to peak production has nothing to do with high gasoline prices...he explicitly stated that he was attempting to explain the "recent, rapid increase" only.
And while his evidence is persuasive, there are surely more factors responsible than those he lists here. For instance, while I agree that actual collusion is almost certainly not occurring, surely a case can be made that a reduction in the number of competitors, both at the refinery and retail level, must have some (upward) affect on prices.

The initial Lower 48 decline was quite gradual (less than 1% per year for the first two years), and we didn't have the benefit of nonconventional crude oil sources.

Worldwide, crude oil prices have traded in the highest sustained nominal trading range in history, and we saw a decline in crude oil production, in the most likely year for a decline, as predicted by Deffeyes.

Westexas,

Could this actually reflect how worthless the dollar is becoming?

Your ELM should be mainstream in the next couple of years.

Good point!

Much of the increase in U.S. gasoline prices has actually been due to the decline of the dollar vs. foreign currencies.

this article in finacialsense on < href="http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2007/0416.html"> the dow would seem to indicate that yes, it is not the dow that is up, but the American dollar that is down.

I wonder what a graph of how much gold 1 barrel of oil would get you would look like.

(graphs how much much gold and oil 1 'dow' would get you)

we probably have not reached peak liquids yet in terms of BTUs

Actually the picture looks worst when fuels are added on a BTU basis:





So NGPL and other liquids provide only 8.8% of total BTU's, but make up 13.3% of the total volume. Sort of like those potato chip bags that shrink once you open them...

Wow, I had no idea that NGPL had only 2/3 the BTU/barrel of crude oil. All those charts that show an impressive increase in NGPL volumes need to be discounted by 1/3 to show the true amount of energy provided. That's actually quite shocking to me! Just one more piece of data on top of all the others that show we have a problem brewing in fossil fuels.

But like the rest of us, refiners don't have crystal balls.

What kind of balls do they have?

Putting the aside the NIMBY issue with location, and the fact they will be initially competing with their existing capacity and therefore reducing current margins.

Could it be they just do not have the crystals to invest billion(s) in new capacity to increase their reliance on imported crude, with no real idea that the demand for the quantities of products produced will be there at the prices they will need to achieve to make the investment worth while.

Additional problems with refiners is that they have been conditioned to handling light sweet crude. As more and more of world production turns sour, especially KSA which is growing more sour by the day, refiners will have more and more problems.

Refineries are running full speed just to fight a losing battle against wear and tear on their components- The crude is too sour, and not enough refining capacity can handle sour crude. Refinery accidents/shutdowns will become more and more common, and as a result more public outcry will be heard against the oil companies.

Without the sour crude problem, which is a massive problem in and of itself, the fundamentals point to massive price rises in gasoline in the next few years. When you factor in the sour crude problem, and then the oil export problem there is just no way you can say nothing will happen. It will get 10 times worse, before it gets even a little bit better. We aint seen nothin' yet boys.

Wait until MTBE comes back, Then another oil exporter gets invaded, Then the hurricanes, then the failures to deliver from exporters, then the trade wars.

How can you ignore the coming landslide? Please, make youself useful if you don't believe in Hubbert or PO 'the fringe' movement and stand under the landslide. More for the rest of us when you're burried. Just to let you know its not personal though once you're burried, we would love to dig you out. If only we had the gas.

A Marathon refinery expansion approved (180,000 bod throughput):

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4200/is_20060303/ai_n16143887

Here is a planned Motiva Port Arthur expansion (325,000 bod throughput):

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/energywatch/oilandgas/features/articl...

Chevron files for permit to expand refinery:

http://www.chevron.com/news/press/2006/2006-11-13.asp

Reuters published a table of additional refinery expansion plans:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKN12EFINERY20070612

Refineries were being built all around the world.

The Venezuela revolutionaries seized foreign owned drilling rigs in Venezuela, upgraders & oil & gas field infrastructure. They made partial payment on some oilfield interests they seized.

http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=46357

I wouldnt over play the sweet sour issue... refineries are built to run heavy sour crudes...its all a question of economics.......