Local Scientist Splits Water, Saves World, Gets On TV
Posted by JoulesBurn on August 7, 2008 - 9:00am
Topic: Alternative energy
Tags: electrolysis, hydrogen, original, solar power [list all tags]
What the Report Reportedly Reports
Massachussets Institute of Technology chemistry professor Daniel Nocera and a postdoctoral fellow (who will remain blameless here) have published a report in Sciencepress, a rapid online publication channel for the journal Science, entitled In Situ Formation of an Oxygen-Evolving Catalyst in Neutral Water Containing Phosphate and Co2+ (link). The report itself does not make outrageous claims, but when supercharged by misleading statements and exaggerated claims from Nocera to the media as well as by an apparent MIT public relations blitz, these modest research findings have been transformed into a calming salve for the public's current angst over high energy prices. A sampling:
- Why Oil Really Fell Today—and Could Keep Falling, US News and World Report
- MIT Scientists Unlock 'Nirvana' of Solar Power Storage PC Magazine
- 'Major discovery' from MIT primed to unleash solar revolution From MIT (of course)
- Hydrogen Power on the Cheap--Or at Least, Cheaper Scientific American
- Sunny Forecast For Fuel Cells Chemical and Engineering News
- MIT develops way to bank solar energy at home Reuters
- Solar-Power Breakthrough ABC News
So what is really in the report? Nocera et. al. are working to improve the economics of hydrogen production via electrolysis by reducing the cost and improving the efficiency of electrolyzers used to split water into the component gases. Shown below is a simplified diagram showing the basics of water electrolysis.
The red and blue wires protruding into solution are the cathode and anode respectively. (Note that the configurations of real electrodes are more complicated). When sufficient voltage is applied across the electrodes, current will flow and oxygen gas (O2) will form at the anode and hydrogen gas (H2) at the cathode. The needed voltage, from thermodynamics, is termed the Standard Potential for the overall reaction and is equal to 1.23 volts at 25C. In reality, more voltage than the Standard Potential must be applied to get appreciable water splitting and gas production, for reasons discussed below. This means that the electrolyzer is less than 100% efficient in converting electric power to power theoretically available by recombining the gases in a fuel cell. Remember that power is current times volts. For example, if double the Standard Potential (i.e. 2.46) volts is applied, only half of the power goes into splitting water and the rest is wasted -- giving an efficiency of 50%.
Making A Better Electrode
Why is this extra voltage needed? Part is needed to overcome the resistance of the solution. For this reason, electrolytes are added to make the liquid more conductive. The more vexing problem has to do with the nature of the electrodes upon which the reactions take place. The rate of a reaction at an electrode, known as the kinetics, limits how fast hydrogen can be generated and turns out to be very dependent on what the electrode is made of. Precious metals such as platinum and palladium generally make good electrodes, but they are of course expensive. The reaction can be "overdriven" by applying a larger voltage than the minimum required, but this reduces the efficiency. For water splitting, the oxygen-evolving anode is the larger contributor to the problem, requiring a larger "overpotential". The goal of the Nocera et. al. research is to build a better (smaller overpotential) and cheaper anode.
They fabricated their anode by electrodepositing a thin film containing cobalt, phosphorous, potassium, and oxygen onto an inert (but conductive) surface. They fully analyzed the film to determine its composition and to verify that it was indeed producing oxygen when a voltage was placed between it and a cathode. They then measured how much current flowed (i.e. how much hydrogen could be produced) vs. how much voltage had to be applied.
The Early Returns
Cheaper? Perhaps. but it depends on what you compare it to. It's eye-opening to contrast the price of cobalt with that of platinum, but commercial anodes aren't made of platinum. It is difficult to get information on commercial electrolysis anodes, but most today are probably made of a nickel alloy. Nocera makes much of the fact of having his cell at neutral pH and open to air (where the nickel wouldn't function as well), but the cell has to be enclosed anyway to collect the hydrogen.
More Efficient? Not based on the data they presented. For example, they reported a current density of 1 milliampere per square centimeter (mA/cm^2) with an overpotential of 410 millivolts. In comparison, this patent from 1979 reports better performance (e.g. 1mA/cm^2 at < 200 mV overpotential) for nickel anodes. Remember, the goal is to minimize the overpotential for a given current density. There have also been many recent reports of better performance for a variety of anode compositions, including alloys or oxides containing cobalt.
Anything? Hello?
If the Nocera electrode material isn't more efficient, then we are back to cheaper. This remains to be seen in the context of a working electrolyzer, but there might be some advantages to a neutral pH and the simplicity of fabrication. Thus, this is research worth doing. But what has been communicated to the outside world is that hydrogen will soon be flowing from our pores because of this research. Let's look at some of the more amazing claims.
Deconstructing the Media
I will chastise MIT first, since (although they are not a disinterested party) they should know better. Here is one bold claim:
Until now, solar power has been a daytime-only energy source, because storing extra solar energy for later use is prohibitively expensive and grossly inefficient. With today's announcement, MIT researchers have hit upon a simple, inexpensive, highly efficient process for storing solar energy.No, they've made an anode which may or may not be cheaper and is not more efficient. And according to this report, capital costs (of which the anode cost is only a part) account for less than half of the overall cost of producing hydrogen -- the largest being the cost of the electricity. And for smaller systems, since the amount of electrode material scales directly with capacity, more of the capital cost is incurred by other equipment such as control electronics and gas handling and compression hardware.
Inspired by the photosynthesis performed by plants, Nocera and [the other guy], a postdoctoral fellow in Nocera's lab, have developed an unprecedented process that will allow the sun's energy to be used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen gases.Inspiration from leaves aside, there are decades of precedence for the electrolysis of water. Nocera doesn't reference any of it, but you can easily find it with Google.
From EETimes we have this thermodynamically challenged claim:
A liquid catalyst was added to water before electrolysis to achieve what the researchers claim is almost 100-percent efficiency.The MIT catalyst components are solids (salts) dissolved in water, but where would the 100% claim come from? Perhaps from quoting Nocera:
"The hard part of getting water to split is not the hydrogen -- platinum as a catalyst works fine for the hydrogen. But platinum works very poorly for oxygen, making you use much more energy," said MIT chemistry professor Daniel Nocera. "What we have done is made a catalyst work for the oxygen part without any extra energy. In fact, with our catalyst almost 100 percent of the current used for electrolysis goes into making oxygen and hydrogen."First, platinum isn't presently used for the anode anyway. But the last sentence should be rewritten as "exactly 100%", since where else is the current going to go? An electrochemical cell is a closed circuit. But that has nothing to do with efficiency, which is instead the amount of power effecting the chemical change relative to the total power input (see earlier discussion). Clearly, their anode is nowhere near 100% efficient.
From Reuters, we have:
Nocera's catalyst is made from cobalt, phosphate and an electrode that produces oxygen from water by using 90 percent less electricity than current methods, which use the costly metal platinum. ... "It's cheap, it's efficient, it's highly manufacturable, it's incredibly tolerant of impurity and it's from earth-abundant stuff," Nocera explained. ... "For the last six months, driving home, I've been looking at leaves, and saying, 'I own you guys now,'" Nocera said.It's not clear where the 90% figure comes from, since commercial anodes (which don't use platinum) do at least as well as Nocera's -- his claims are not supported by his report. As for as the abundance of cobalt, it is a first-row transition metal. But according to the Encyclopedia of Earth, the abundance in earth's crust of cobalt(25 mg/kg) is less than that of nickel (84 mg/kg). According to the U.S. Geological Survey, Mineral Commodity Summaries:
Periods of high prices and concern about availability have resulted in various efforts to conserve, reduce, or substitute for cobalt. In many applications, further substitution of cobalt would result in a loss in product performance. Potential substitutes include barium or strontium ferrites, neodymium-iron-boron, or nickel-iron alloys in magnets; nickel, cermets, or ceramics in cutting and wear-resistant materials; nickel base alloys or ceramics in jet engines; nickel in petroleum catalysts; rhodium in hydroformylation catalysts; nickel or manganese in batteries; and manganese, iron, cerium, or zirconium in paints.As for price, remember that soy oil was rather cheap before a new market (biodiesel) appeared for it.
Scientific American plays the platinum card as well:
Chemist Daniel Nocera, head of the M.I.T.'s Solar Revolution Project, focused on one side of the equation: splitting water into its constituent hydrogen and oxygen molecules. This can be done well, but it remains difficult to actually separate the molecules. But Nocera and postdoctoral fellow [the other guy] discovered it could be accomplished by simply adding the metals cobalt and phosphate to water and running a current through it. In contrast to platinum, cobalt and phosphate cost roughly $2.25 an ounce and $.05 an ounce, respectively.No, they haven't invented water electrolysis, doing it in a glass of water at RT and 1 atmosphere isn't important, "separating the molecules" isn't the problem, and phosphate isn't a metal (or even an element). Churning is for butter.
"We [have] figured out a way just using a glass of water at room temperature, under atmospheric pressure," Nocera says. "This thing [a thin film of cobalt and phosphate on an electrode] just churns away making [oxygen] from water."
The journalistic arms of scientific journals aren't much better. From the print edition of Science (1 AUGUST 2008 VOL 321):
The catalyst isn’t perfect. It still requires excess electricity to start the water-splitting reaction, energy that isn’t recovered and stored in the fuel. And for now, the catalyst can accept only low levels of electrical current. Nocera says he’s hopeful that both problems can be solved, and because the catalysts are so easy to make, he expects progress will be swift. Further work is also needed to reduce the cost of cathodes and to link the electrodes to solar cells to provide clean electricity. A final big push will be to see if the catalyst or others like it can operate in seawater. If so, future societies could use sunlight to generate hydrogen from seawater and then pipe it to large banks of fuel cells on shore that could convert it into electricity and fresh water, thereby using the sun and oceans to fill two of the world’s greatest needs.That's one (il)logical leap into the future.
Electrolysis in Context
Given that last vision, it's best to put the electrolysis of water to make hydrogen into the broader context of the prospects for alternative energy. Consider the following diagram:Moving to hydrogen as an end-use fuel presents many challenges, and the cost and efficiency of electrolysis are rather minor in the larger scope. Shifting from concentrated and easily transportable fuel sources (oil converted to gasoline/diesel) to diffuse sources (solar/wind/biomass) converted to a somewhat less concentrated and much less transportable fuel (hydrogen) will result in energy inefficiencies that cannot be overcome (entropy problem). In addition, substantial changes in infrastructure are needed, and in the context of higher energy costs in the near term, making these changes will be difficult. (See the Hirsch Report for a sobering assessment.) Both an articulation and an assessment of the real challenges are somehow absent in the excitement generated by the Nocera et. al. report. Hydrogen will have uses, particularly in energy storage, but solving a few problems (when they are actually solved) will not painlessly transition us to a new energy future.
Summary
- Despite the hype, it doesn't appear that Nocera et. al. have made any significant advances in water electrolysis.
- Even if the researchers drove the cost of the oxygen-evolving anode to zero and its efficiency close to 100%, we are still only marginally closer to being able to produce significant quantities of hydrogen from solar energy.
- Want to invest in cobalt futures? Too late.




Perhaps the most egregious media misstatement was from the US News link:
This report either doesn't understand energy timelines, futures markets, or neither. Futures markets are about current supply. Even were this not the case and something commercial were to come from this MIT development, to SCALE it would require MORE oil investment before we would see a pay off, requiring higher demand for oil in the coming years, not less, ergo higher futures prices.
Short term futures markets have been down because of commodity liquidations and producer hedging. News such as this had nothing at all to do with it..
I don't get this need to try and analyze daily fluctuations of these markets.
You might as well go to the track and bet on the ponies.
Its not that we are trying to predict these fluctuations to make money (though certainly many do). But there seems to be a continual flood of rationalizations of why oil has gone from $10 to $120 in under 9 years due to everything except the real reasons, i.e. that population and demand are increasing, and geology and flow rates are becoming limited. If people acknowledge this backdrop, then each day to day movement can have its own players and story while policymakers address the looming crises. But the day to day players seem to be telling policymakers what the story is, and that's not helping.
Everyone wants the good times to roll, again. HA!
I told a friend of mine on the west coast, "Gas has gone down a quarter, I guess the SUV's will make a roaring comeback ... "
Here's from the Financial Times, July 30; (Javier Blas): “After years of strong growth, liquidity in commodities futures markets, particularly crude oil, is falling abruptly as the credit crunch finally hits leveraging in the sector and contributes to a sharp increase in price volatility. The number of outstanding contracts - known as open interest in industry jargon - in key US commodities markets has fallen 5.5% since March and is now at its lowest level since January, according to Barclays… In oil, open interest has fallen to its lowest in more than a year and a half. Analysts and traders say the reduction in liquidity has been brought about by financial institutions deleveraging - particularly among cash-squeezed Wall Street banks…”
"Markets will fluctuate." J. P. Morgan.
Worse than that the same clowns who are shooting their wads in the energy commodities casinos are the ones who are supposedly investing in new energy technology.
Over the weekend I ran into a friend of a friend who had a supposedly decently viable tidal power company. I say had, because he's having to shut up shop just as he was trying to scale up to a commercial demonstrator because his venture capital firm decided it could get better ROI with the huge swings of the last few months on futures.
Once again I say: "The market didn't put a man on the moon - not while it could play the crack spread instead"
James Pethokoukis's oil price claims about the Nocera anode are little different from those of the Republican party regarding their offshore drilling rhetoric. Both can be explained by what B. F. Skinner discovered regarding superstitious behaviour in experiments on pigeons. A related experiment was conducted on humans by Derren Brown and absolutely no one suspected their behaviour had no bearing on the outcome.
Exactly. Any breakthroughs in energy efficiency would result in more productivity, increased GDP, increased incomes, etc. All these would drive the cost of oil through the roof. Jevon's Paradox will ensure that oil is going to be expensive proportionally to whatever technological breakthroughs we can come up with. Even if we had a zero point generator, oil demand would shoot through the roof because zero point generators would ignite a building spree unlike anything the world has ever seen. (Including China!) Even if we had free energy, we'd still need all the oil in the world just to build an infrastructure that could make use of free energy. That was a pretty grim realization for me...
All hail Jevons paradox ! And indeed, the Khazzoom-Brookes postulate !
I was thinking that this process might make the coal to liquids process more efficient, with less CO2 output. It would be a source of hydrogen without generating CO2
Very nice job, JB. This was much needed.
It was misleading claims like this - and the subsequent and predictable media feeding frenzy - that helped inspire me to start writing in the first place. One of the early examples I remember that ended up being way overhyped was thermal depolymerization. It made the cover of Discover, and was hyped all over the media as a cure to our oil dependence - but where are they now? Struggling to make a dime.
Tell me about it - I remember the TDP stuff myself, and for a while I even bought into it. I guess that's why I am so cynical about new developments right now. Especially journal articles from scientists - I used to work in that type of environment, and the competition for funding is intense so there is always a great temptation to make all kinds of exaggerated claims about what the potential of some development might have.
I remember sitting in a meeting once - in our field we were under increasing pressure to come up with useful devices and not just study stuff because we thought it was interesting. The first adaptation was that in virtually every talk there was a slide to talk about "device potential". Most of us knew it was all BS, but that was how the game was played.
That's not to say that some day there won't be a breakthrough of some sort someday, but you really need to put on the BS deflectors before you start reading these types of reports.
I propose a rule of thumb, or if you like, a reliable component of my bullshit detector. If anybody claims to have improved the efficiency of a well-established industrial process by more than 2 percentage points, you should check their claims, if they claim an improvement of 5 percentage points or more, they're probably bullshitting.
This quote is also a red flag for me:
"For the last six months, driving home, I've been looking at leaves, and saying, 'I own you guys now,'" Nocera said.
Nocera sounds a bit manic.
I would also point out that the idea itself - using peak solar to produce hydrogen which could then be used at night - is not new. My friend Jerry Unruh suggested this to me - and I wrote about it here - almost two years ago:
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/12/19/164011/04
Nocera seems to be suggesting that he thought up the idea.
CSP can also be used to capture solar, store it for a few hours (in the form of heat), and then use the heat to generate electricity at night.
Yeah, I agree. I'm still struggling to see what is the connection between photosynthesis and electrolysis of water. This is beside the fact that he comes across as a total nut with a statement like that.
What TDP ran into was two fold. First there was somebody else who out bid them for their feedstock. The other shoe to drop was no refinery would buy their product. I fear algae oil projects will run up against similar problems in particular no one will refine their product into fuels the market wants. There is a $140 million algae project that will be built near Marshall MO which the local governments co-signed the loan. If they don't have a purchase agreement for their products we could be seeing a multi-hundred acre white elephant.
A lot more went wrong with TDP than just that:
http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2007/04/tdp-what-went-wrong.html
More is learned from failures than from success. Biofuel projects face the same challenges as TDP did. Making sure the capital equipment is high quality means having supervising engineers are on site. Going for the lowest bid from contractors means accepting the lowest quality work. Not offending the neighbors with bad odors or too much truck traffic is a challenge that may add to costs. An unexpected rise in the feedstock or other inputs like enzymes or catalysts can be a killer. The rise in corn prices has stopped some ethanol projects. The rise in nat gas price is also a game changer. Biodiesel projects are subject to the costs for methanol and lye as well as feedstock cost. On the other end is having a product the market wants. The ethanol mandate has created a dubious demand. Big solar and wind projects can get power purchase agreements before construction begins but if it weren't for government involvement I wonder how many PPAs would be signed. I'm not saying that government involvement is a bad thing since almost every industry benefits from the way the government twists market forces. What I see for the biofuel industry is a need for either a guaranteed customer or they should create a vertically integrated system including growing the feedstock, extracting the oils, converting those oils into what the public uses, and creating a chain of retail outlets.
I don't have a chemistry background, so I can't offer comment on efficiency issues. Science is one of the most prestigious scientific publications and they think there is something in Nocera's work. They generally don't publish trivial stuff.
However, some additional points:
Firstly, I think it's possible that in their haste to debunk Daniel Nocera, people are missing his main point.
Here's a quotation from Nocera:
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/07/reverse-fuel-ce.html
So we can't focus narrowly on energy efficiency as if the question will be decided on those grounds alone. We are going to have to look at the total costs of competing solutions.
Several TOD writers (Gail the Actuary for one) have advanced the view that the grid is in shambles and will be very difficult to maintain going forward and cannot sustain the tens of millions of electric cars that are proposed. For both Gail and Nocera, the grid is problematic.
However, we have to make a choice here. How can we have it both ways? If the grid's vast mind-boggling complexity is, on the contrary, actually quite easy to maintain then Gail is wrong and so is Nocera. There is no point in getting rid of that gigantic infrastructure and the expensive expertise to run it because the grid does its job well with little cost.
But what if we take Gail and Nocera to be correct? Then we have to consider the entire cost of the grid when making a comparison between Nocera's vision and a competing grid-based solution.
Secondly, setting Nocera's vision of the future aside for a moment, we need to consider the potential impact of reduced hydrogen prices assuming for a moment this advance will lead to them.
One of the big factors to look at when trying to determine whether one technology wins out over another is to compare total costs of ownership for both systems. Consider for instance the following scenario: What if, with increased demand, lithium and other battery-making materials become very expensive while electricity from renewable sources becomes fairly cheap as technology improves? On efficiency grounds, battery tech enjoys a clear theoretical efficiency advantage over hydrogen-based solutions. But we can't be sure that would translate into a cost advantage. (Bosselites take note)
Thirdly there are common applications for which we have no battery powered solution: heavy vehicles for instance like 18-wheel trucks, other transport trucks, buses, and large SUVs. Hydrogen internal combustion engines (H2 ICE) were shown to be viable in light trucks years ago and there is no reason why larger engines could not be built. Fuel cells can do the job, too. That's currently not the case with battery powered vehicles. To quote GM's R&D chief:
http://www.designnews.com/article/47485-General_Motors_R_D_Chief_Larry_B...
Fourthly, in some ways H2 ICE is a here-now technology. Though it can't compete head to head with cheap gas because of range issues and lack of fueling stations and fuel costs, it is not a hugely expensive technology like fuel cells. You don't hear much about H2 ICE because fuel cells are much more efficient and pollute even less. But unlike fuel cells, there is no technological barrier preventing the the mass production of affordable H2 ICE's. If market conditions drive the cost of gasoline substantially and permanently above H2 or an invention pushes H2 costs down below gas, the game changes. First with fleets of locally used commercial vehicles which all use a single fueling station and then potentially with other vehicles.
BMW and Ford both have fleets of H2 ICE vehicles (not just prototypes).
There is a fleet of H2 ICE buses in service at Orlando airport.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/03/18/hydrogen.buses/
There is a recent review (July 20) of the BMW here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/automobiles/autosreviews/20AUTO.html?_...
You can see a video of it being refueled here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykl2PH2B-tM
(Ouch, take a look at the 8 euro/kg fuel cost! 1kg of hydrogen is roughly equal to a gallon of gas)
My own view is that H2 ICE vehicles probably don't have much of a future as cheaper/better fuel cells will come sooner than many projections.
Nissan announced substantial advances today:
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/08/nissan-previews.html
EDIT:
It's not easy getting data on H2 prices. There are some statements about industry prices in this press release.
http://www.newswiretoday.com/news/37455/
I don't have a chemistry background,
Yet Don Lancaster (8,000 + hits for Don Lancaster and sci.energy.hydrogen)
http://www.tinaja.com/h2gas01.asp
and Ulf Bossel: There is no future to a hydrogen economy because it is much too wasteful.
http://www.thewatt.com/node/78
who DO have the understanding you lack and THEY say your position is bunk.
Perhaps the works of David Dunning and Justin Kruger explain why you, lacking actual knowledge, thinks you have a better handle than Don or Dr. Bossel.
http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
Science is one of the most prestigious scientific publications and they think there is something in Nocera's work. They generally don't publish trivial stuff.
Appeal to authority argument. You accept them it seems.
I've given links above to two authorities who say you are wrong.
So refute them.
Electricity is dirt cheap but storage is expensive AND IS NECESSARY.
To be fair you need to include the price of batteries in as well as the cost of electricity.
Nocera is making hydrogen which can be stored very cheaply at a very high efficiency because there is very little waste heat. It brings down the cost of hydrogen.
For example, a typical 400 AH LA car battery stores the energy equivalent of .2 gallons of gasoline which is equivalent to 1.8 gallons of 350 bar hydrogen gas( which is equal to .2 kg of H2).
To make hydrogen gas and pressurize it to 350 bar takes about 190 MJ per kg(170 for electrolysis and 20 for adiabtic compression) ~60 kwh per kg. If electricity costs 10 cents per kwh from the grid, that's $6.0 dollars
per kg.
The Tesla sport electric with $20000 worth of Li-ion batteries(53 kwh) has a 200 mile range(optimistically, they had to reduce their initial estimate of 250 miles per charge); to fill it costs $5.3. If the car has a life of 200000 miles that cost would amount to $5300. So fuel plus batteries = $25300 (assuming the initial change of batteries would last 200000 miles).
The Honda FCX fuel cell sedan with a range of 270 miles would cost $34.2 per fill up. If this car had a life of 200000 miles the fuel would amount to $24000.
And what would you pay to go the last 70 miles or would you walk?
($34.2-5.3)/70=$.41 per mile?
An efficient hybrid car running on gasoline gets 500 miles on a tank costing $44 to fill with $4 per gal gas.
If this car had a life of 200000 miles, the fuel would cost $17777. If gasoline rises above $6 per gallon(+$200 a barrel oil), the Honda fuel cell car would be cheaper to fuel assume electricity costs didn't rise.
The world supply of lithium is limited(13.4 million tons proven) per Chris Rhodes
http://ergobalance.blogspot.com/2008/05/world-lithium-supplies.html
and the world supply of
petroleum is set to decline.
From that viewpoint hydrogen in fuel cell cars start to look quite practical.
Whats even more practical is reacting hydrogen with CO2 to make DME, gasoline, or diesel fuel. Its not much harder and its a hell of a lot more valuable, safe, and convenient.
DME = dioxymethane?
dimethyl ether
Thanks for your clarification of what the letters mean but it poses another question. DME has twice as many carbons as oxygens. Whereas CO2 has twice as many oxygen as carbon. So logically it looks like some sort of "dioxymethane" would be the expected outcome (though I guess a person competent in chemistry could explain why not!).
Wouldn't producing DME produce a load of surplus oxygen, just waiting to burn the whole lot up straight away?
expected outcome of what?
...of combining hydrogen with carbon dioxide. (Merely on the basis of a simplistic consideration of the c/o ratios, rather than any sound knowledge or some profound analysis of chemistry).
I don't think there's any such animal as "dioxymethane". Formic acid maybe? But any combination of two oxygens and a methane that I can think of would fall apart into simpler things like CO2 and H2... or maybe formaldehyde and H2O... tricky thing, organic chemistry. Just because you can assemble the ball and stick model for it doesn't mean you can synthesize it :)
Ooooh - but... maybe all these people are publishing research into a non-existent pseudoscience molecule:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dioxymethane&btnG=Google+Search&m...
I'd take that as sufficient proof of existence. Except that I'm also aware of so much "research" into a mythical virus called hiv and a mythical disease called aids.
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/cjonow.htm
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/index.htm
http://failingsofhivaidstheory.homestead.com/
(And bear in mind my point elsewhere on this page about the repressive pseudoscience spirit of Lysenko being very much still alive in the land of the "free".)
So maybe not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_denialism
The AIDS denialism position is yet another popular tin-foil hat talking point that has no grounding whatsoever. Its right up there with abiotic oil in terms of credibility.
HIV causes AIDS.
That's a great piece of unreasoned unevidenced assertion you've put there. Anyone who bothers to actually study the facts rather than the "prestigiousness" can see that on the contrary it is the HIV-AIDS hoax that is right up there with abiotic oil.
And as for wiki, due to its obstinately flawed policies on "verification" it mindlessly apes the medical establishment in all its dogmas including this one.
As for being a "popular tin-foil hat" idea, it has distinguished profs such as Peter Duesberg supporting it. The fact that the medical establishment has to so consistently persecute its heretics should speak for itself to any objective person.
They even had to pretend that the great 2-Nobels Linus Pauling had somehow lost his marbles when he started publishing things about vit C that violated the rules of Pharmaceutical Correctness.
And just take a look at the filth the BMJ stored up for David Horrobin's obituary after he died so no longer able to sue for libel. http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/326/7394/885
Yes it exists. It is a di-radical transiently formed in the gas phase (perhaps in the upper atmosphere), but it is very unstable and reactive.
The two dots indicate unpaired electrons (hence di-radical).
Probably not transportable.
A di-radical, very unstable and reactive? Tact forbids me from returning the coded insult in like quantity.
I shall add two extra hydrogens to the top of your picture, and use that as the basis of a whole new genre of sci-fi under the pseudonym of, ermm, Jules Burnes-Jones.