Market Assessments
Posted by Prof. Goose on August 30, 2005 - 1:44pm
Topic: Economics/Finance
From NYMEX:
CLV5 (crude) 69.81 up 2.61
HOU5 (H.O.) 2.0759 up 0.1671
NGV5 (NG) 11.659 up 0.52
Gasoline: 2.4745
Also, please make sure to go check out econbrowser's assessment of the oil markets.
Update [2005-8-30 15:59:7 by Prof. Goose]:95% of all gulf oil production "shut-in" today.
Remember that's a little worse than the GOMEX models predicted.
Here's some questions: why did the market not spike as much as thought today, except for gasoline? Is it because we do not have a complete damage assessment of supply as of yet? What will more information do? how will the market react if the GOMEX numbers are confirmed? Isn't the nightmare scenario that 10% of production will be down for more than 90 days?
So, it's possible energy prices will move higher. One analyst suggested that if 10% of the oil production from the Gulf of Mexico doesn't come back online for, say, three to four weeks, look for crude oil to hit $100 a barrel. Among other things, CNBC's Rob Reynolds said this afternoon, consumer spending would "seize up like a rusty boat engine." Technorati Tags: peak oil, oil, Katrina, Port Fourchon, weather, hurricane.




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The on-land experience of Katrina is much worse than in the past; remains to be seen what on-sea and under-sea damage looks like.
As for the broader stock market -- I believe its in danger of a more significant drop in the near term should it become obvious that more than a few hundred thousand barrels a day or more are off line for a longer period of time, or if gasoline "appears" to be in shortage (via price hikes).
Its rather remarkable that so far the market is taking this all in stride. Had this happened last year - crude likely would have shot from 40 to 60 and that movement would most certainly have killed the stock market off for a month or more, in my opinion. Higher prices have become a fixture and to some degree market participants are expecting this now.
What isn't yet fully priced in is the impact to the economy from inevitable price hikes in energy / petrochemical dependent products, nor is a move to much higher prices that "stick".
Nor is another bad weather event in the area...
Trader logic/rationale seems to be an oxymoron.
CLV5 (crude) 69.81 up 2.61
HOU5 (H.O.) 2.0759 up 0.1671
NGV5 (NG) 11.659 up 0.52
Gasoline is same as yours except for missing 2 (should be 2.4745)
What matters most is whether price closed up or down, and whether it broke a two day high or low. Its more complicated than that in some ways but that's the bottom line to determining whether its in an up swing or down swing. The big deal right now: does the "breakout" above the prior range of consolidation hold or not. If so... price is headed higher in the fairly near term.
The problem with this event is people wont associate it with peak oil it will just be weather related shutdowns that cause a spike then we will return to "normal".
This winter is going to be very interesting
Price doesn't spike like this in the summer; some of this spike is as a result of the natural price alignment with oil; but there is, or will be, an appreciation of the 'scarcity' value of natural gas by the market one of these days.
http://www.trendvue.com/charts/2005/08/tv20050830-28.gif
As I note on the chart above... is this a spike or what traders call a "breakout" to new and ultimately much higher prices.
http://www.trendvue.com/charts/2005/08/tv20050830-29.gif
On the shorter term daily chart this is a classic breakout through and above a consolidation zone in a very strong trend. So strong a trend that under "normal" situations, experienced technical traders would be looking for a significant market reversal.
During last weeks CL and NG sell off I felt the market was, in my judgement, acting too quickly on the technical signs suggesting a potential big reversal in CL/NG and dismissing to readily the potential for Katrina. I held and added to my positions on the dip.
Now... post breakout, especially on a breakout which was facilitated by a big news event, there is still greater than 50/50 chance price will pull back significantly here, but the breakout level will be first tested to see if it acts as new support.
Unless the news coming out of the GOM is very, very good, we can expect that level to hold, if it indeed is even tested.
Finally, I will draw your attention to the gap up on the daily chart - gaps are found, more often than not, near swing turns. They are very often a sign of unsustainable (at least in the short-intermediate term) price movement. You need more buyers to step in to keep prices going up, and often a gap up creates a natural lull in buying as market participants judge a stock or market as having climbed too far away to consider jumping on board.
Quite often such gaps mark a swing high, sometimes even a major top, depending on where price is in the market's cycle. This market has been running up strong for a very long time, so by conventional rules and history, some technical traders will have been expecting a significant pull back if not even a reversal in the trend from up to down.
Now that we are clear on what frequently follows a news or event driven gap... sometimes the follow on is quite different indeed.
When a gap forms because of a change in fundamentals - where the story has changed for the intermediate to long term - such a gap can mark a point in time where price, often after pausing for a day or two, never returns (never being relative as in weeks or months or sometimes years and occasionally never).
Could we be there? Very possible. What to do about it?
Well if one is a trader and is not already long the market, such a person carefully monitors the multi day high and piles on there, or on any suitable retracement or useful pattern that occurs within the range formed above the gap, and looks to hold if price clears the recent highs anew, ultimately moving up protective stops to break even once price has cleared "noise".
A market that runs away higher than such a gap -- at a time when price is already at historic highs -- would soon draw in more participants and create a melt up, or a siuation not unlike 1999 - 2000 or GOOG where price just keeps on growing higher and people keep piling on in fear that they've missed it forever.
Ultimately, peak oil or not, such a move simply can not sustain itself, and price will pull back, often sharply, for a while - but it may not come back to the breakout levels but instead create a new range of consolidation at much higher prices.
An ideal time for that... if Katrina impact is very long... will be next spring.
PS: One thing to watch for in the energy sector stocks (producers) is any talk about revaluation --- changing the traditional metrics by which such stocks are historically priced. Once upon a time price : cashflow ratios would be in the low single digits. Some are talking that perhaps high single digits would be more appropriate, implying 50 - 100% gains in some energy sector stocks.
PSPS: I didn't intend for this to turn into a little analysis lecture, and reading this I see that lack of intent showing up as an incomplete effort, but I have my other work to attend to so will leave this as an installment which may or may not be useful to anyone.
http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/
This behavior by N.O. cops will shock anyone who has never lived there before:
"Even a cop joins in the looting
Mike Perlstein and Brian Thevenot
Staff writers
Law enforcement efforts to contain the emergency left by Katrina
slipped into chaos in parts of New Orleans Tuesday with some police officers
and firefighters joining looters in picking stores clean..."
and firefighters joining looters in picking stores clean.
I can certainly seem them looting if its to serve the public; the darker scenario is, being first responders on the scene and knowing more than all of us do about the situation, they've all concluded the situation is utterly hopeless.
and how much is flooded ? how much could flood?
how much will the river rise with the rainfall?
(sorry if you guys already covered this)
~ Reuters
One of those What th f.... moments
The governor of Louisiana says the thousands of New Orleans residents who are huddled in the Superdome and other rescue centers will have to be evacuated. --Associated Press"
http://www.wdsu.com/weather/4913354/detail.html
Until we can look back and say with conviction - June 200x was the peak, markets will jam up and down all the time.
However, I will completely disagree with his premise - that its high only because of speculation. That most certainly is not true.
And even if price does come down to 35, 40, 50 - so what... that won't be a "crash" in the true sense, as the longer term floor will remain much higher than in the past. Crude won't drop down to 10, 15, 20, 25, unless literally the world is once again awash in the stuff (unless there literally are millions of bbl/day in provable spare capacity, not the phantom stuff we are treated to by OPEC) and that certainly is not on the horizon.
- recession does not reduce total world wide GDP output, only slow its growth
- unless total world wide GDP output drops and for an extended period of time, more crude will continue to be needed.
- IF GDP output drops for an extended period of time, that is, my friends, a depression, not a recession.
There is also a chicken and egg thing happening here - surging prices might well cause a recession and reduction in demand growth (not total demand), but they have to rise first. We are there now... and rising.Some other economies are going to fail first. Note the Phillipines, some Asian economies -- high oil prices are causing them currency problems and the potential for a repeat of the Asian Contaigion... currency crisis and short or intermediate term melt down.
It may be that's what it takes, and it would not be the brilliance of Government that causes (or stops) this from happening.
http://money.inq7.net/topstories/view_topstories.php?yyyy=2005&mon=08&dd=31&file=1
Note in the Phillipines where energy costs are a much bigger component of GDP and personal income, they are seeing demand drop. We aren't there yet, here in the "first world".
will decline while the rich countries' demand
continues to grow.
the rich get richer and the poor get poorer
but on a country scale. the rich countries will
continue to extract whatever they want from the
poor countries. and the poloarization will get
uglier and uglier
For example:
Imperial Oil Raises Edmonton Par Crude By C$20 Cu. Meter
08-30-05 05:00 PM EST
CALGARY -(Dow Jones)- Imperial Oil Ltd. (IMO) raised its purchase price for benchmark 40-degree gravity light crude oil at Edmonton by C$20 a cubic meter to C$530 a cubic meter, effective Tuesday.
In terms of barrels, the company is now offering C$84.27 a barrel, up from C$ 81.09. The new purchase price indicates an export price delivered to Chicago of about US$72.08 a barrel after considering transportation and import charges and foreign exchange rates.
Actual export prices are confidential but are believed to be closely related to the posted levels.