Energy Policy Issue Rankings and Bush's Presidential Approval Numbers

I found a very interesting poll by Pew yesterday, (hat tip: Payton Chung over at Gristmill) that I thought I should bring you.

Pew was doing a piece on the impacts of An Inconvenient Truth on the global warming attitudes--a major focus of the poll, but there's some things to chew on in there regarding energy policy attitudes as well. I discuss some of the findings and implications under the fold.

Once you skip down past the global warming focused questions in the Pew Report, you get down to issue rankings (ranked percentages of people ranking those issues as "very" important).

The difference between the global warming issue importance and the energy policy issue importance surprised me a bit. I suppose that it probably shouldn't with gas prices so high, but I thought the two would be more closely ranked than they are.

Global warming is the least important (19th) issue among self-identified Republicans (23%), while energy policy is the tenth most important issue (56%).

Global warming is only the 13th most important issue among self-identified Democrats (56%), while energy policy is the tenth most important issue (66%).

For energy policy, there isn't much of a partisan pattern, which is a little surprising--or should it be?

Among independents though, global warming is the 13th most important issue (49%), while energy policy is the seventh most important issue (67%). I found that interesting as well.

The first thing this tells me there's more political hay to be made amongst swing voters with regard to energy policy than partisans. Of course, that doesn't always mean doing the right thing; it means appearing to do something.

The issues that politicians will be addressing, with the Republicans attempting to maintain their majorities in both houses of Congress and Democrats attempting to make gains, are going to be the issues that Independents--the folks who are less likely to vote along party lines and whose preferences/behavior are more malleable--think are important, which after you get past the "big three" that are always present (education, health care, and the economy), means a focus on terrorism, Iraq, and Social Security. Energy policy might get a little play, especially if there is a oil price spike, etc., but it won't be a major focus unless world events get even worse, at least not with politicians seeing this data.

Remember, as I have said many times, politicians are rational and pragmatic, they do whatever they can to keep their job. That means they watch these polls and put out the biggest fires, hoping that the little fires don't grow and catch them off-guard. Energy policy could be the fuel for one of those fires. (Yeesh, did I just say that? Heh.)

Next up, further down in the report, when we look at Bush job approval on certain issue areas, the numbers are more closely tied together between the climate change and energy policy issues. On global warming and energy policy, Bush received a 26% approval rating, while receiving a 56% disapproval rating on energy policy (44% on global warming).

(What I would like to see is a study on how much people parse these issues. How many people think of climate change and energy policy as inherently tied together?)

Sure, there's no doubt a lot of these approval numbers are tied to increasing gas prices (which to the Bush administration seems to mean increasing supply by whatever means possible, even if that means growing more corn or pushing fuel cells even harder).

However, it seems to me, and I am going to do some digging on this, that the salience of energy policy is increasing--not really going out a limb there, am I? (though I am efforting some data to back that up, see below). While it doesn't mean people are learning about peak oil per se, it does mean that they are thinking about where they get their energy more and more.

The numbers on energy compiled at Polling Report (I'll work on putting a plot of these together over time--but the questions are asked so differently by the organizations, it's tough to do a valid time series comparison) would seem to indicate an increased salience as well, but it's a tough conclusion to draw from the data.

So, anyway, that's enough for now. Enjoy!

Since we're discussing politics here, thought I would point out that the University of Iowa's political futures market opened again last month. These markets tend to be very accurate, better than polls, especially far out from the elections.

House:
http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_House06.cfm

Senate:
http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Senate06.cfm

We may be looking at another 2 years of GOP rule.

I use these in my classes PS.  The data are indeed quite good.  They have a wonderful time series of event driven data all the way back to 1988 or some such, that, if I ever get the time, I am going to play with like a geek on crack.
I think it's also very important to note that the House is the most likely to change hands.  If I were betting on it right now, I'd agree with the odds of 3:2 that it won't turn-over.  Way too many seats with non-competitive races.  
thanks in no small part to Delay style completely bogus gerrymandering of the districts...
while I would agree with that to a point, it's important to note that the Constitution puts the power to redraw districts in the hands of state legislatures.  Republicans control a lot of state legislatures.  Ergo, if you want the districts to be drawn in your favor, win elections.  Democrats in the states where they have control of the state  legislatures are just as bad about drawing districts in their favor as Republicans though.

There's a great book on the history and technology of gerrymandering by Mark Monmonier called Bushmanders and Bullwinkles.  Quite good.

Exactly. Gerrymandering is a real cancer on our body politic -- there was a book out last year (forgot the name) that basically argued that the polarization we're seeing in America isn't reflected in the poll data -- thus suggesting gerrymandering is what's causing it.

I think a real argument can be made that the US House of Representatives, as an institution, has simply ceased working as it is supposed to. The House was supposed to be the body most representative of the people because it was theoretically 'closer' to them -- but the gerrymandered districts means the median voter that is in effect represented by legislators in these gerrymandered districts are far more partisan than voters as a whole.

Don't blame the Republicans for this because gerrymandering has been going on since the beginning of the United States. The problem is in how we create districts, not who creates them. Either party can and will (and has the historical record to prove it) manipulate the existing system to their own ends. Fixing the problem is not just throwing the Republicans out and letting the Democrats gerrymander their way instead. Fixing the problem means changing the flaws in the system of how districts are drawn.
I believe you're referring to Fiorina's Culture War book.  It's an interesting read, but it's been discussed by a lot of people.

Here's an interesting piece here that addresses it:

http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2006/06/polarized_partisans_probably.php

That's the book. Thanks for the link that provides a nice rebuttal -- that polarization has been increasing since 1970 is a strong counter-argument to be sure.

However, I don't think one can argue either-or positions here -- clearly the US political system is a complex system with numerous feedback loops. No doubt the increasing polarization that began in the 1970s has led to partisan redistricting which is causing additional polarization.  

Gerrymandering is a traditional practice with Chicago and the political machine. Too bad you can't take a political machine and get it to make useful machanical work. If you could, the Daley Machine alone could power the whole electrical grid including electrified rail and trolley buses!
The question of whether or not we are "ruled" by Republicans for the next two years will not be decided by the voters.  Our elections are clearly rigged.  It's probably because the Republicans have the system in place to pull it off.  The "decision" about who will run Congress after November may simply be a question of whose operatives are the best. Or is it all decided in corporate boardrooms?
And, anyway, who cares??  Senators and Comgressman don't even read the bills they pass into law.  And after the laws are passed, they are changed anyway (huh?).  And it has been proven that we now have secret laws - pretty tough to obey a secret law, isn't it?  As a citizen - not a comsumer, a citizen, dammit! - I demand the right to see all legislation before it is voted on so I can give my gov't representative my opinion.  However, this is not possible.

Has it always been this way?  Maybe.  Probably.

The only decisions voters make is "R" or "D". (David Putty: "Gotta support the team")

Sadly, I will not be voting this November...

I'm disgusted with the dismal leadership our politicians provide also. I think writing in a candidate will be a better way to communicate  disgust with politicians of both parties than not voting at all though.
I think I'll write my sons name in,,he's only 5 but he says whats on his mind and is not shy to voice an unpopular opinion.
ie. (as he went up the stairs to bed the other night)Mom,,your butt's big
Gunga2006:  

Was he telling the truth?

no,,her butt is perfect..
Was she looking over your shoulder as you typed that ;)
Yeah,,but she's gone now..  the kid calls it like he sees it
Same here, disgusted with the leadership in congress and senate, they seem to be interested in keeping their position than choosing the "right thing " to do.

Suggest everyone watch the special on George Washington, The Warrior on the History channel. He did it right. he hated the job, and was glad to leave. and never returned to public service!

I for one will VOTE, and i will vote any and every incumbent OUT!
As i am reminded that our soldiers fight for our right to participate in a democratic election.  

The congressional THUGS who sang God Bless America after 9/11 on TV are the same thugs who can't seem to deal with any important issues. And are selling us down the river with immigration? The Senate is no better, maybe worse! They are all out of touch with the common man!

Suddenly, gay marriage, steroids and flag burning are more important than immigration and energy? I don't think so. I will VOTE!
I encourage every one else to VOTE, as long as you VOTE!

 

You forgot Abortion. If only we could abort our whole system and start afresh. Wait... Peak Oil IS going to abort the system! Along with the proverbial bath water.
In my opinion, a vote for a Democrat or a Republican is a wasted vote.  I vote my conscience and my principles, and have voted Green for many years.  The California Green Party has 59 Greens holding local office.  We have a full slate running for statewide offices, including Peter Camejo for governor.  Don't waste your vote.  Vote Peace.  Vote Green.
I'm pretty disgusted too. The last election (Y2K4)was such that I purposely grabbed a GOP ballot in the primary and wrote in Osama bin Laden for president! In previous cases I wrote myself in where both candidates for an office were repugnant. I would love to be able to type in this:

C:\ format /s political_system

Better watch it, Max.  The government is listening...
as i recall, in Brazil they were so disgusted with their choices for president, they wtote in Monkey!
The Pew polls have had a tarnished history of either being "push" polls or asking leading questions to obtain politically newsworthy results.  I always look deeper into the polling  specifics before attributing any merit to polls.

That said, energy does seem to of active interest to many of the electorate.  I think people are realizing that it is time for decisions and actions.  Voters do take their responsiblities seriously most of the time.

Politicans have to differentiate themselves from their competitors in elections.  A politician who has voted against ANWR, against offshore drilling, and against nuclear power will be criticized by opponents.  What were once "nice to have" positions will probably be examined with a more critical eye by voters since energy policy is increasingly a both a pocketbook and a national security issue.

People realize that the Mideast would be a lot less important if we have other energy sources.  The Iraq War may not have been "all about the oil," but high energy prices and short supply empower people who wish us harm for religous reasons.

The pushback is NIMBYism.  Voters affected by local energy projects will have to make a decision as to what's more important - local issues or national ones.  At some point in an energy crisis, the NIMBYs lose anyway.

What will continue is "pie from the sky" promises - who can spend more of your money on solar and wind.  Any smart politican will keep promising but make sure the REAL energy keeps flowing.  Let Gray Davis be an example for Arnold and others.

If by REAL energy you mean fossil fuels, then thanks for kissing our butts goodbye.

Like the heat?

(If I am wrong about your meaning, sorry, and please clarify.)

"Pie in the sky".. sure, but that shouldn't read Solar and Wind..  They already work.  It'll just be a 'hard job' to install a signifigant amount.  Fusion could better be called 'PITS', or maybe Fuel Cells, Ethanol and Tar Sands, until they can actually prove themselves to be economically viable, technically feasible, or expandable to the degree we will need.

Someone mentioned the extreme envirom. disruptions of putting in all that solar and wind.. you don't need to clear forests to do it.  It should be roofing material, by and large, where it is closest to the consumption anyway, and so is the least affected by line-losses.  Wind can share space between planted fields across much of the country, and also be near at hand to  a hungry energy consumer, the farmers.  I wonder what options are out there for Electric Tractors?  I know there are small ones.

Electric tractors and combines? That idea gets me to conjure up images of wires hung across fields and the tractors with trolleys to get the electricity. Doable yes, but not exactly pretty-looking! :) As the windmill turns in the wind, the farmer drives the trolley combine underneath it.
Battery operated tractors seem feasible, but they would need a quick charge battery.  Not an easy engineering challenge though !  And might reduce farmer productivity by half.

Combines are time critical.  The best use of bio-fuels and remaining crude oil/tar sands might be to bring in the harvest !

Farmer productivity/2 = 2 * farmers to get the same work done

Those are jobs created, where's the problem? ;)

'Quick Charge Batteries'

Not necessarily. There could be a quick-change battery instead, where charging spots at the base of a turbine would be readily accessible to the fields.  Think of the batteries used in warehouse forklifts, etc..  I seem to recall that Tractors actually depend on their weight to give them traction, too.

There are certainly other vehicles and pieces of stationary equipment that would be able to use the current as well.  Not being a farmer (and I suspect I'm not alone in that), those who are could tell us more..

Of course, it might be possible to design some fields to be longer and somewhat narrower, with tracks along both sides, and the work once done by a variety of specialised tractors would be handled with a gantry-crane approach.  That movement should reduce the energy requirement by huge amounts, not having great wheels fighting through soft soils.. (Electrified Farming Rail systems.. got a ring to it, doesn't it?) Could also be oriented in a radial setup, like the Irrigation Wheels, perhaps..  Tools get attached out at the circumference, work the field like a record player..

Certainly some tasks are essential to be done with more portable, convenient fuels.  We have the opportunity to examine which can be reevaluated and revised.

Bob Fiske

What makes you think ANWR drilling is some sort of winning issue?  People who voted against drilling (usually Democrats) have been criticized by Republicans for years.  I really don't see ANWR and off shore oil drilling offering any sort of major political advantage.  Nuclear is still an issue that is a major political liability.  

I also don't see what the advantage of it outside of politics is either.  You can vote to drill in ANWR, off shore, build more nuclear plants, and in the end our energy policy still is pure shit.  Just drilling holes is not going to solve our problem.  Frankly, the argument can be made that our problems are so big that whether or not we drill in ANWR is entirely inconsequential.  

In any case, the road forward can't consist of more drilling.  That is a dead end alley.  Maybe if we plow forward stubbornly we can drive along for a few more blocks, but in the end we're going to run out of road and right into a brick wall.  Sooner or later, we have to turn off onto snother street if we want to achieve any sort of long term solution to this problem.  If wind and solar are just pie in the sky, then we'd better come up with some way to change that, or find some more viable alternatives quickly, because vainly drilling for more "REAL energy" is just not going to cut it.  

Two new paths.

Electrify our freight railroads amd force (via free market & gov't incentives) frieght off 18 wheelers and onto railroads.

Finance new Urban Rail like we did the Interstate Highways.  90% matching. No $ limit for for any decent project.  Build, build, build !!!

Of those disapproving of Bush's handling of global warming, only 52% say there's solid evidence for it and of those, 30% say it's due to natural patterns. Yet there is no explanation in the scientific community attributing the warming to natural variability. None, nada, zippo. Of the 20% approving, 37% of these people attribute the phenomenon to natural patterns.

So, we must ask ourselves where these people got this idea. One idea that the ExxonMobil propaganda effort has put out is that the world's climate is rebounding from the cooling of the "Little Ice Age". This explanation has no credibility among the scientists. Yet, I doubt that most of those citing natural variability have ever heard of it.

I wonder what good it does to tell me this. In fact, all it does is have a depressing affect on mood for those who know something. I wonder what they think at Pew Climate. Nice try, Al.

This depressed me too.

I suppose a strategy might be to link climate change and energy issues to what people do care about:  economy, terrorism, health care....gay sex, etc.

I've said for a number of years that it is not the technical aspects of the problems facing us that will defeat us. No, it will instead be the sociological and psychological aspects that bring us down. This poll is more evidence of that. Maybe now you understand why I don't worry about saving the world- it doesn't want to be saved. Just save whatever small piece you can for yourself and those around you.
These poll results, such as they are, reflect just how far scientists and academics have fallen in 'who counts' in the realm of American policy discourse. Academics used to be fairly respected -- but the construction of an entire alternative 'academy' in the form of right-wing think tanks has really undermined their credibility. Scholars need to wake up to see just how marginalized they've become in the political process.
When, as an academic, you teach a class, there are faces turned towards you, listening to each word, scribbling notes.  They read the books you assign, study hard, take tests you create.  This provides one with the sense that education changes people's minds.  For those who participate it probably does, but reaching the "masses" who are distracted by the media and their personal dramas seems like a quixotic mission, doesn't it?
Most of my college professors were die-hard liberals (Democrats) who injected their political viewpoints in the course lecture. I put very little faith in academics as they are not living in the real world where you and I operate on a daily basis. Only guest lecturers (i.e. businessmen, scientists in the field, etc.) are worth listening to as they have experience in their fields.
I hear this criticism a lot, but I don't see it as terribly valid. Academics are specialists in their particular field of study.

As for their politics...it depends where you go, but there are comparable institutions that are overwhelmingly conservative republican -- military officers or business elites, for instance.

I think you find differences in the hard sciences like physics, chemistry, and also agronomy and genetics. You find plenty of conservatives in those areas, although not necessarily creationist neocon types.
Because a business man's experience is somehow more relevant to everyone's life than an academic's?  It may be more relevant if you're running a business.  For the rest, there are many professions where you are technically "in business", but where the actual experience of the job has almost nothing to do with "business" at all.  I wouldn't say a businessman has much relevant knowledge about anything besides business, and even then maybe only the narrow business niche that he's in.  

Choosing to listen to businessmen over academics says more about your own personal biases than it does about the quality of information offered by either businessmen or academics.  Choosing to listen to someone because they say what you want to hear does not make them more credible.  Now, maybe I'm unfairly singling out businessmen as you mentioned scientists in the field as well.  

I guess, what it comes down to in my opinion, is most people live in a world of their own construction.  Few people are fully in touch with what's going on beyond their own tiny little sphere.  In the end you have to look at the facts yourself and come to your own conclusion about the broader picture.  I wouldn't necessarily say a businessman or scientist in the field can offer you valid information beyond that of his own tiny world either.  

most people live in a world of their own construction.

EVERYBODY live in a world of his/her own construction!
This is the very definition of individuality, assuming that there a "one and only" reality is the path to disaster!
Here I don't mean that there are not ultimate "hard facts" which are compelling to anybody but that the value of events and so called "facts" is entirely dependent of one's own idiosyncrasies even more than on one's apparent interests.

In the end you have to look at the facts yourself and come to your own conclusion about the broader picture.

That's sounds hollow to me, I guess everybody is doing this already.
May be you are just frustrated (as I am too...) that not so many are close to your own opinions.