DrumBeat: August 11, 2007
Posted by Leanan on August 11, 2007 - 9:35am
Topic: Miscellaneous
I've been watching and waiting for these signs for about five years now: Not just high prices and declining exports, but the slowing of commerce, interstate trucking and air travel, food shortages and similar indications.But the actual feeling of peak oil didn't really hit me until this week, as I perused a page on Jim Kingsdale's excellent Energy Investment Strategies site, listing countries that are currently experiencing serious fuel shortages and grid blackouts.
Here in the first world, we still have the luxury of armchair theorizing about peak oil, and paying a bit more for gasoline, but the third world is actually feeling the pain of peak oil today. Rising oil prices are acting as a regressive worldwide tax, pricing poorer countries right out of the market.
Capitalism is a very efficient system of energy extraction, but it provides no incentive to reconcentrate and restore energy to offset entropy. Capitalists have no economic incentive to invest in energy renewal for the benefit of those of future generations. Capitalists reduce waste and pollution or reuse resources only when it is profitable to do so, meaning only when it is in their individual self-interest to do so. Capitalists have incentives to use renewable energy to support current consumption, but not to re-storing energy for future generations. Capitalism inevitably tends toward physical entropy.
Argentina Cuts Natural-Gas Shipments to Chile, Utilities Say
Argentina cut shipments of natural gas to Chile, worsening an energy shortage, according to two Chilean utilities.Argentina suspended exports by three suppliers of the fuel, Chilean utilities Electroandina SA and Empresa Electrica del Norte Grande SA said in statements posted last night on the Chilean securities regulator's Web site.
The utilities supply power to cities and copper mines in northern Chile. The nation is the world's largest supplier of copper.
Cold snap prompts Chile to seek gas deal with old foe Bolivia
A South American cold snap is causing Chileans to pay up to four times more for heat and electricity, and could spur the government to speed reconciliation with its bitter – but gas-rich – foe, Bolivia, observers say.
Get ready for food-price spike
Donald Coxe has a useful tip for investors. The global portfolio strategist for BMO Financial Group calls it the "Rule of Page Sixteen": Never invest on the basis of a story on Page One of the newspaper, but the one on Page 16 that is destined for page one.The Page One story of this week was turbulence in the stock markets over concerns about exposure of banks to subprime mortgages and the global credit crunch that led central banks to flood markets with money.
The Page 16 story? Turn to last Wednesday's Wall Street Journal, page C6 actually. Buried inside an earnings round-up is one sentence about Dean Foods Co., the largest milk processor in the United States. Second-quarter profit fell 1.6% due to higher raw milk prices, the story said. What it failed to add was that CEO Greg Engles said Dean is "being challenged by the most stubbornly inflationary dairy markets in history," a global phenomenon that "feels like a perfect storm, and it isn't over."
Oberstar's gas tax may hit some political potholes
Republican Sen. Norm Coleman suggested that addressing the nation's infrastructure is not a question of money, but of making it a priority. "I'm not yet prepared to accept a gas tax increase as the solution," he said.Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a Democrat, suggested other remedies first. "We should look at closing lucrative loopholes for the big oil companies and rolling back the Bush tax cuts for people making over $336,000 per year before adding another burden on the middle class," she said.
Bart Anderson on The Reality Report (podcast)
Bart Anderson of Energy Bulletin recaps recent news related to resource depletion, climate change and more.
A flurry of good intentions: Congress tries to green America's power supply
WHEN in doubt about energy policy, build more windmills. That, in short, was the thrust of the energy bill approved by the House of Representatives on August 4th. The legislators disagreed about a proposal to reduce the fuel-thirst of American cars. Surprisingly, they also passed up the opportunity to lavish more subsidies on ethanol. They did not even bother to consider a carbon tax or a cap-and-trade scheme for greenhouse gases. But they did give the nod to an amendment that would require utilities to generate 15% of their power from clean sources, such as windmills and solar panels, by 2020.
Africa keeps going despite high oil prices
Record high global oil prices have so far had a muted effect on sub-Saharan Africa, with exporters reaping rewards and importers less badly hit than many had feared.
SUV plant doesn't offer the job security it once did
Michigan Truck is down to one shift and has about 1,400 hourly employees, producing about half of the 1,000 SUVs it made daily back in the good times. Ford has fared about the same, borrowing billions to restructure as gas prices rose and consumers shifted from its SUVs and trucks to more fuel efficient models.
The cost of imported goods rose in July more than expected
Higher crude oil prices were to blame for the rise in the price of goods imported into the United States in July, which suggests inflation may not be in check. July's increase marked the largest gain in the cost of imported goods since March, rising 1.5 percent in July compared to the 0.9 percent increase the prior month.
Nuclear renaissance will deliver challenges
If the "nuclear renaissance" emerges as many energy experts predict, finding the raw materials, components and skills necessary to meet Ontario's nuclear needs could prove tricky, and more expensive than authorities are banking on.On top of cost, completing such projects on schedule is shaping up to be a logistical nightmare. All Ontario coal plants are scheduled for shutdown by 2014. A number of existing nuclear reactors must be refurbished or replaced over the coming 15 years. Bringing one power plant or reactor online while another goes offline will be a delicate balancing act, made more complicated by the international rush for scarce and increasingly costly resources.
Oil search plans fuel tensions on Cyprus
Tensions on the ethnically partitioned island of Cyprus could come to a head next week with Nicosia's plans to proceed with oil and gas exploration in the eastern Mediterranean. The internationally-recognized Greek Cypriot government plans to accept applications from interested parties for oil exploration permits for a 70,000-square-kilometre sea area south and south-west of the island until August 16.
Sinopec seeking to build $5bn refinery
Sinopec is in negotiations with Royal Dutch Shell, Kuwait Petroleum and Dow Chemical to build a refinery and petrochemical plant in south China worth at least $5 billion.
Time to move forward to meet India’s energy crunch?
It might appear to be rather too simple a solution to the energy crisis. Could a mere tweak of the hands of the clock, setting it forward by half an hour, significantly lower evening peak electricity demand to save India Rs. 1,000 crore annually?By setting Indian Standard Time forward six hours ahead of Universal Coordinated Time (now it is five and a half), as much as 16 per cent of the evening peak energy demand would be saved, concludes a research paper published in Current Science.
Dropped out, tuned in and still switched on
A one-time professional hippy now has his own green energy company, an OBE, ambitious plans - and some critics unimpressed by his claims.
McHenry thinks bikes, unlike sexual harassment, voter fraud, and war with Iran, are worth condemning
The energy bill just passed by the House contains a provision that would offer a $20 monthly tax rebate to bicycle commuters. When Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) found out, he took to the floor of the House to deliver this speech...
Fuel inequity: Is your tank taking you for a ride?
Floridians get shorted: Our warm gas packs less punch -- but costs no less than in colder states.
In January, for example, UW received 95 truckloads, each carrying 40 tons of Montana coal. Thus, UW has been susceptible to the price increases for diesel fuel used to transport that coal.
Renewable energy to an Icelander is what sleek automotive luxury is to a German: a given. Electricity and water bills are embarrassingly minimal (though it seems only fair that some necessities are cheap when food prices are so high) and that is all thanks to the immense geothermal power plants dotted along the country side.
IEA: Tighter Global Oil Market Awaits if OPEC Sits Tight
The International Energy Agency on Friday kept up its drumbeat for OPEC to lift oil output next month when it meets, warning that world oil demand is likely to outpace supply this winter and that this gap will only widen if the producer group decides not to raise crude production.The warning by the IEA, in its monthly oil market report, implies that consumers could see higher energy prices if global economic growth continues apace and the U.S., Europe and Asia see normal winter weather,as expected.
The Paris-based IEA,which monitors energy markets on behalf of the world's 26 most industrialized nations, said inadequate oil supplies amid steady oil demand posed unwanted risks to the world economy at a time of volatile swings in global equity and bond markets caused by investor concerns over the fallout of the U.S. credit downturn.
"The last thing the global economy needs is higher oil prices. Undersupplying the market in this context could bear considerable risks," the IEA said.
Iran, Iraq sign oil pipeline deal
Iran and Iraq signed an agreement to build pipelines for the transfer of Iraqi crude oil and oil products, the state-run Iran news network Saturday quoted the oil ministry as announcing.The 32-inch (81-centimetre) pipeline will bring crude from the southern Iraqi port of Basra to the southwestern Iranian port of Abadan. There will be a separately 16-inch one for oil products.
Nigerian President Removes Head of State Oil Co.
Nigerian president Umaru Yar'Adua has dismissed the managing director of state-owned oil company the Nigerian National Petroleum Corp. Nigerian national newspaper The Daily Sun reports Friday.Funso Kupolokun's responsibilities will be taken on by the next most senior executive in the organization, Abubakar Yar'Adua, no relation to the president, the paper writes.
The Daily Sun learned that Kupolokun had been under fire over a scam involving 71 recent contracts said to have been executed at the twilight of the Obasanjo regime.
Jeremy Leggett: Weapon of choice
We are mobilising for war against global warming and peak oil and we need to arm ourselves with photovoltaic technology.
Arctic sea ice 'lowest in recorded history': scientist
Sea ice in the northern hemisphere has plunged to the lowest levels ever measured, a US Arctic specialist said Friday, adding that it was likely part of the long-term trend of polar ice melt driven by global warming.



What is Fraud?
Ok, it's time for a little truth telling. We all know what the scam was. Interest rates were at their lowest ever. There was no place else for interest rates to go but up. Thus, the creation of Adjustable Rate Mortgages. How much you pay goes up with interest rates. Sold to consumers as good deals as, if interest rates go down, so does the amount you pay. No where down for interest rates to go, only up. Misrepresentation? You Bet'cha. Now lets spend billions on television advertising to not only sell loans to people looking to buy a house(a very small percentage), but lets talk everyone into refinancing, taking out second mortgages, move that fixed mortgage into an adjustable rate one, money to spend on anything. Let's even make it sound Hip and call it ReFi. Oh, let's not forget the credit cards, they can get in on the adjustable rate thing too. How many billions of 'preapproved' credit card applications were mailed out? Low starting rate, no interest for six months, ADJUSTABLE. Whenever, Wherever. Just read the fine print. Questionable business practice? You Bet'cha. You've noticed I've not said the word FRAUD yet. Oh, but this is only the beginning. Can't hold on to these loans, as soon as interest rates go up, they won't be able to pay. So, repackage them as financial instruments and sell them to pensions and hedge funds. Make a tidy profit and push these bad loans into someone else's lap. HIGH YIELD! Those Pension Funds were hurt bad last time around, barely standing on one leg. They need to recoup those losses. Suck(er) them in with promises of high return. Now add in synergy. If now everyone can afford to buy a house, real estate values go through the roof. People are paying prices far far higher than before all this started. Inflated valuations means booked assets are inflated, meaning more money can be borrowed against those assets. And the Bubble grows.
FRAUD
Definition
Intentional misrepresentation or concealment of information in order to deceive or mislead. It is illegal.
fraud (frôd)
n.
A deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain.
fraud
Intentionally deceiving another person and causing her to suffer a loss. Fraud includes lies and half-truths, such as selling a lemon and claiming "she runs like a dream."
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-fraud.htm
Fed Coughs Up Twice(actually 3 times) on Friday, IMF Shows Concern
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6941615.stm
FTSE 100 loses 75bn Pounds in 2 days - New Diet Craze
"Tom Hougaard, chief market strategist at City Index, said: "This is absolutely unprecedented. In the last 15 minutes of trading we dropped 50 points. That's serious 'Get me out, I don't want to be in this any more, I'm scared'."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/08/11/cnmark...
What "fundamentals" are they talking about? Ability of central banks to print money, the endless supply of natural resources worldwide, or billions of people willing to work for starvation wages?
Do we have convincing arguments linking the financial crisis to resource exhaustion (eg oil)? That would be Tainter's argument wouldn't it? Though it wouldn't apply only to sub-prime housing, but to infrastructure, military, education, industry, food and all other aspects of society.
cfm in Gray, ME
Small caveat here. Banks, central or otherwise, do not print money. Banks do create money by loaning out money they have on deposit, which is deposited back into the banks and more money is created by loaning out that money and so on.
However banks lose this ability to create money as loans are recalled or defaulted on. These are the fundamentals! The money supply moves up and down, driven by the credit market and other things.
I know you may have meant banks create money when you said they print money. But this phrase has been repeated so many times that a lot of people actually believe that banks have a printing press in the back room where they print money. This is a dangerous myth that does not need to be perpetuated.
The vast majority of money in circulation does not exist in any form of print. It is only a ledger entry, or computer entry, on the banks books. And that is just another great misuse the word "print".
Only the US Treasurer can print money and they do it only when old worn out bills are burned or new money is ordered, and paid for, by the banks.
A little story. I have read that the poor of South Africa and other African countries, mostly blacks, believe that white people, when they run out of money, can simply go to the bank and get some more. The bank, to them, is just a magical place where white people can go to get money on demand. The belief that banks can simply print money, when they need some more, is very similar to this belief.
Ron Patterson
Ron
Please contact me at dave . aspo @ gmail . com
You've been tracking EIA projections, I think, and I'd like to see whatever data you have. Dick Lawrence recommended that I contact you.
Thanks, Dave
True that the central banks generally don't "print" money to increase money supply, but they buy treasury and mortgage securities from other banks using electronic money created out of thin air in a process known as monetization of debt.
Yes, that was my point all along. Banks create money from debt, they do not print money. And money created by monetization is a little like the "will of the wisp". Just as it was created out of thin air it can disappear the same way. Printed money does not disappear. It may inflate but it never just goes away.
Ron Patterson
"monetization of debt"
During times like this when the Fed is temporarily (again, temporarily) exchanging cash for debt, it is highly unlikely that the cash will be re-leveraged by the bank that receives it -- see "repurchase agreement" on wikipedia. Secondly, the debt in question still requires interest payments to be made.
Cid,
What struck me when I read this was the expectation the average American has that "government daddy" should protect us and hold us from harm caused by our own stupidity, and if we do get harmed, he should make it right and punish the evil perpetrator".
What happened to the idea that in a free country you are free to make your choices, and if you choose badly, then you are free to suffer the consequences?
You can not have it both ways.
Francois.
Fraud is illegal no matter how stupid your mark is.
Commerce comprises the trading of something of ECONOMIC VALUE such as goods, services, information or money between two or more entities.
For commerce to exist, a reasonable expectation of recieving fair value in the trade is a requisite. Laws against Fraud exist to protect commerce.
Sorry, Cid, but these people took a gamble on greed and lost. That's not fraud. What if interest rates had stayed low? They did in Japan for just about long enough to pay a 20 year mortgage.
Move on, nothing to see, no fraud here. It says 'Adjustable Rate Mortgage' and even has an acronym, ARM, to make it official. You weren't forced to buy dotcom stocks either, any more than the crap for only $19.95 on late night TV. These mortgage 'instruments' were not misrepresented, and anyone not capable or willing to read the fine print should take said fine print to someone who can.
As for institutions, they should know better.
It doesn't matter how 'greedy' you mark is either.
Predatory practices in the marketplace, with the intention of not delivering fair value, but rather to 'fleece' the other party in the transaction, IS fraud and damaging to the marketplace. As I said, Commerce is DEPENDENT on the reasonable expectation of recieving fair value in a transaction. Without Trade, there is only TAKING, by deception or force.
But herein lies another issue. Perhaps those that gambled on greed lost get what they deserve, but here I am, one with good credit and sound finances living in a community where X # of people are now defaulting on loans of various kinds.
My neighborhood will suffer (houses remain empty - property values decline, attract crime; less property taxes are paid - schools and cities become cash-strapped; desperate people start committing random acts of thievery from families that have their houses).
So to say that this will only hurt those that deserve it is naive.
It is a whole societal spirit, the idea of growing value in the free market (how exactly that works people don’t question), poor mathematical education (ARMS should scare low income ppl to death), and a kind of peculiar subservience to ‘experts’ - experts know a ‘good deal’ when they see it and are honest (err..the good deal is for them..), etc. Still, if that is the way the world works, you have to go with the flow...if many are doing the same thing...etc. That is also tied to a feeling of entitlement or immunity, not personal I guess (“The Gvmt. will bail me out”, obviously in the US it will not, see Katrina, or its perception in the public) but to belief that the society works, is fundamentally sane and fair, built on proper principles, laws, regulations, interactions. Its Amerika (or another country, or my powerful bank...), it can’t be bad, or: its OK with me. Say.
It is fraud in a way. Not actionable: contracts signed. After, many others are hit.
The US, contrary to some other countries, does not enact laws or follow principles that might protect the poor or lower middle from screwing themselves over. That is part of its attraction.
In my mind, it is not fraud that can be tried in court. It is piss-poor governance that can be tried at the hands of the populace.
except that the populace was complicit every step of the way. In my mind, the huge decade long run-up in real-estate values corrupted further an industry already accustomed to the nudge and the wink. "We need to have this appraisal come in around..." "what we'd like to see in this home-inspection is..." "what the mortgage company is looking for on your statement of net worth is..." ALL Americans who have gone through process of buying real estate know that process is abetted by an army of smarmy, oily, materialistic operators for whom every regulation has a 'work-around'. 'Creative financing' was just the logical next step for a public intent on keeping the carousel spinning around. A majority of us have benefited from it, willingly or not.
sldulin, I agree that much of the real estate biz is based on getting away with something. I personally know people here in Miami who "bought" several properties no money down and interest only because they never intended to keep the property; they fully intended to turn around and sell it to "the greater fool". They would yack at me about "leverage" and how they could make a ton of money for a few hours work and derided me for saying the situation scared me. Now that they turned out to be the greater fool they are crying "foul"! These "flippers" knew what they were getting into but they let emotion (greed) cloud their reason. They sure as hell had no intention of sharing their easy profit with me, so I sure as hell have no intention of subsidising their loss.
The last time I bought a house, the lender was obligated to provide me with a one page disclosure in plain English, I seem to recall it was called "the HUD disclosure" although my lender was a regular bank. My point is there is already dislosure; people need to read it and heed it.
Who said the famous saw: "You can't cheat an honest man"?
Cid, regarding fraud in a capitalist marketplace: the whole economic system is a con. Selling a plasma TV to anyone on credit this deep into peak oil is a fraud. Selling treasury bonds to pension funds is a fraud. "Hedonic adjustments" and excluding food and energy from the CPI to hold down Soc Sec cost-of-living increases is fraud. Welcome to Earth.
PLAN, PLANt, PLANet
Errol in Miami
Notintodenial,
You focus on the important point. Those that wish to take on a lot of risk in investing should be able to in a free market. Those of us who are uncomfortable with investments in essentially pyramid schemes should have the assurance that if risky investments are proven wrong those people lose their assets. This is a true free market - rewards for risk but also rewards for conservative behavior.
The problem I see now is that those that pushed the envelope on risk want to be protected from the fallout. They want to change the rules in the middle of the game - now that the game is punishing their behavior. They want a safety net to protect their risky behavior. If the market was truly a free market than it would be self correcting - early on- for extreme risk. Only a very few would "beat the odds" in risky investments. The rest would lose money and it would be a warning to others to be very careful in investing.
My gripe is those of us who have been financial prudent - one might say conservative (laughable for someone often labeled a liberal) - will end up paying those who should learn a lesson about over extending ones self. A FREE market should come with consequences proportional to risk exposure.
The large money players socialize the risk associated with their "investments" and privatize the gain. This is the result of money being more important to an officials election than the overall well being of most voters.
The risk is socialized because when loss is incurred the government steps in to help the market with tax dollars. The gain is not shared during times of plenty.
Hedge fund managers have paid a lower percentage of their income in taxes than their secretarys do and when the investment blows up the government uses the secretaries taxes to cover the bet.
All actions that are immoral are not fraud in the eyes of the court. Sometimes actions that are immoral make people more angry than actions that are against the law. I believe that the only time that Jesus lost his temper was when he started throwing the tables of the 'money changers' on the floor of the temple. Just goes to show how little things have changed.
Noizzette -- good points.
Ithink that we live in an economy, not in a society. Someone posted on this recently.
So people make money. We do not sell each other what we need so that we can be happy. We seduce each other into buying things that will make us more money in terms of a system that only measures success in terms of maximized immediate profits.
The whole system is a scam set up to benefit those at the top at the expense of thoise at the bottom.
Why are so many people unhappy in a world where so much money is sloshing around?
Why do we need so many antidepressants and sleeping pills and booze and cocaine and the like?
Why do we "need" so much stuff?
Cid brought up a superb question, and the answers are complex.
The whole economi/political system has become fraudulent in my opinion. It will be very tough to see any kind of integrity restored.
It is hard to give up addictions. But it can be done. No one needs all that stuff, but the market economy needs people to think they need it, and most people have a low threshold for addiction -- so obviously if you want to make the market economy work you addict people. To oil, to war, to horror of body odor, to grease, to sugar, to salt, to (the idea of) sex, etc.
One by one people can give it up if they want to. At critical mass, when there are more straights than addicts, the world will change. No one will have done it.
Francois,
"You cannot have it both ways."
You've set up a false dichotomy. "Free country" does not mean that there is no such thing as fraud.
Perhaps you intend to imply that too many people are not responsible or well-educated enough to make economic choices regarding their own lives.
I agree with that, but also believe that this is exactly the way that we've set things up to work. Our country seems to me to be not so free, and inducements are in place to fatten common folk like sheep for the slaughter.
That is my impression: wage-slavery and debt-slavery is the lot in life for the masses, as long as they are useful in keeping the Military-Industrial Complex going for a bit longer.
My kids in school can stumble around with a variety of topics, but I would think that personal finance and business math courses would be available in high school.
I know high school students who are interested in such topics, but they cannot get such curriculum at all.
One also has to work hard to find curriculum related to energy topics.
Sure, there are some corporatized options out there for science teachers that basically teach students to trust the megacorporations to deal with problems of pollution and resource depletion, but what I've seen is pretty thin and shallow.
Much of the public school curriculum is designed to churn out compliant consumers, not well-informed, critiallly-thinking citizens.
I do know teachers who inject their classes with good stuff. Our high school's chemistry teacher made the students write papers on energy and peak oil just to get them thinking about the real world. The geography teacher also assigned reports on mapping where energy comes from and that sort of thing. But these were individual initiatives from teachers who care enough to go far above and beyond the usual curriculum.
Back to "economic fraud" -- many of the kids graduating from high school or college believe it when the guy in the corporate suit tells them that they can handle the credit card debt or the wretched ARM Mortgage terms: "just refinance it with a different debt instrument later if it seems to get out of hand. Get a new credit card, a different mortgage, and rest assured that you will get a better job in no time at all."
Sheep being fattened for the slaughter -- see what I mean?
I have said for a long time that when we became 'consumers' and stopped being 'citizens' in the eyes of 'our government' that we were in real trouble...and, here we are. When I was in Jr.HS we had a course titled 'civics' that covered some common economic situations that normal people would face in life as well as government structure, voting, enacting and repealing laws, etc. I know that my daughters were not taught 'civics' in HS. One can only guess why our government wants an ill informed citizenry...lol.
You said it better than I did. Totally agree.
Cid, all the people involved were simply maximising profit, how could that be wrong? It's not only legitimate, it is also the defining principle which makes America the envy of the world. It's unfortunate, very unfortunate, but you must understand that all involved in selflessly working for the better good and happiness of society cannot be responsible for the self inflicted problems of those sub-prime people. They had free will in a free society in a free market, for heavens sake, they must have done it to themselves.
Look, all this conspiracy stuff about financiers scamming the public has to stop, it will undermine confidence in the Country's institutions. You wouldn't want to be seen as unpatriotic now would you.
Mistakes were made, no one disagrees. But, to say that they were deliberate, rather than due to a misguided, albeit, morally defensible policy to have everyone live the American dream cannot be right. Look the Fed have now awoken to the problem, have trust in them, they will sort everything out, so no need to worry. Go shopping, be happy.
Ps
Where have those sarcasm tags gone?
Triumvirate of collapse - Economy, Ecosystem, Energy
Well said!
So when the Fed prints and pumps 15-30 BILLION dollars into the markets, WHO OWES and has to pay back the 15-30 billion? That's right US us.
30 Billion? that's about 10-12 days borrowing from Foreigners to get it?
(Since we borrow about 2.5 billion per day)
the money injected is temporary.
we (taxpayers) will probably only lose 500-1000 basis points or so for transaction costs i guess.
the fed is artificially propping up the market liquidity, when the markets become liquid again (whenever that may be) they end up rebuying the debt
The FED did not "print" the $30bln., it just loaned it as an emergency liquidity assistance. These loans have to be paid back. Read the explanation downthread.
Of course there is the option for them to create the money out of thin air and just give it to whomever needs to... if this happens we are going to pay the end bill through inflation.
"The FED did not "print" the $30bln., it just loaned..."
I know that LevinK. It was a figure of speech. It was "loaned" into existence. Like nearly ALL our money, little of which is "Printed" into existence. Fractional Reserves, etc.
That wasn't the point of the post. It was even the "Loaned into existence" has to be paid back.
It turns into DEBT.
Exactly.
"Money" ($$$) is something we humans create out of thin air.
No wonder we believe we can pay our way out of any crisis.
There is already a solution to the peak oil problem and it is being implemented right before our eyes. The demand for oil will drop drastically as we enter this economic depression. Peak oil will be not be factor for along time till the world economy recovers.
That's some "solution" alright! Kind of like how the remedy for back pain is to shoot the person. Hey, whaddayaknow, no more pain!
A depression is exactly what I (we?) wanted to avoid. With 20 years lead-time of peak oil preparation, we wouldn't need to suffer the depression that we know have coming. And if we start right now, we don't have to suffer the nearly catastrophic civilizational collapse that we have coming if we keep our heads up our asses for another 5 years.
This financial instability is not a "good" sign that things are "working themselves out." Well, things are working themselves out, alright. They were bound to do so eventually IN SOME WAY. It's just that this way that we are going to experience isn't going to be very comfortable for most people...and the truly tragic part is that ALL OF THIS WAS EASILY PREVENTABLE. A shame....
There seems to be this need in America to try to obtain a mortgage way beyond one's ability to pay it back. It is based on the belief that perpetually rising house prices will always allow one to flip the property if things go bad. In Colorado, we even had a guy in prison with no resources who managed to buy 3 houses with one of these no questions asked mortgaged. He was able to flip those houses from prison.
The music is stopped and now people want to be bailed out -- not just the mortgagees but those who either offered these loans or those who sliced and diced these into securities.
If there is a bailout, it will happen because now some of the big boys are beginning to suffer. This whole outrage is wrecking the stock market and threatens to wreck the economy. Even those of us on the sidelines who exercised prudence all these years when buying our houses will suffer because of the apparent God given right to credit without income.
What a country.
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