DrumBeat: August 14, 2007

'Cathedral Thinking'
Energy's Future: Until we solve climate change, says James E. Rogers, we need even the dirtiest fuel.

Everything you are saying here suggests that the only likely positive scenario has at least a 20-year time span. Yet you listen to someone like Al Gore and it sounds like we don't have 20 years.

That's why we can't take anything out of the energy equation—coal, nuclear, gas, energy efficiency and renewables. I think we have had chronic underinvestment in energy efficiency. We really need to accelerate that. Mitigation of climate change is not going to happen fast enough. That is the reality. We need to think in a broad sense about both adaptation [to climate change] and mitigation [of it]. We really have to have what I would call cathedral thinking, where we are looking out and saying we need to address this problem over many decades, in the same way the cathedrals of Europe took many decades to build. It is going to take many decades of both mitigation and adaptation to get to the right place on this planet.

Iraqi deputy oil minister kidnapped

Dozens of uniformed gunmen in 17 official vehicles stormed an Oil Ministry compound in Baghdad and abducted a deputy oil minister and three other officials, a ministry spokesman and police said.

Outside the capital, two suicide truck bombers separately struck a strategic bridge and a complex housing a small religious minority, killing at least 19 people, police said.


Wolfowitz 'tried to censor World Bank on climate change'

The Bush administration has consistently thwarted efforts by the World Bank to include global warming in its calculations when considering whether to approve major investments in industry and infrastructure, according to documents made public through a watchdog yesterday.

On one occasion, the White House's pointman at the bank, the now disgraced Paul Wolfowitz, personally intervened to remove the words "climate change" from the title of a bank progress report and ordered changes to the text of the report to shift the focus away from global warming.


Opec sees need for $2.4 trillion investment in crude capacity

Oil producers need to pump $2.4 trillion into projects to expand crude output capacity to meet future world demand and around $680 billion will need to be invested by Opec members.

Nearly $455 billion will need to channeled into refining with Asia-Pacific region having the lion’s share of capital expenditure, Opec says in its 2007 Oil Outlook.


Cellulosic ethanol: A fuel for the future?

In the pine forests of rural Georgia, Devon Dartnell sees a path into the global fuel economy.

As the biomass program manager for the Georgia Forestry Commission, Dartnell is impatiently waiting for construction to begin next month of a plant that will convert forestry wastes into ethanol, a car fuel.

The facility is an important test to see whether lumber and agricultural by-products, rather than corn or sugar cane, are an economically viable "feedstock" for ethanol production. Behind the plant is Range Fuels, a start-up headed by a former Apple executive and financed by famed Silicon Valley venture capitalist Vinod Khosla.


While the Watchdog Sleeps

The News media frequently brags on its role as the public’s watchdog, looking out for the interests of the people, shining a light in dark places. But on what may be the most momentous, life-changing story to come along in decades, the media doesn’t even notice.


EU sides with Greek Cypriots in oil spat

The European Union has once again supported the Greek Cypriot administration in an oil spat between Nicosia and Ankara that stemmed from a tender for oil exploration in the eastern Mediterranean.


Iraq oil field work will increase capacity

Increased rehabilitation in a key Iraqi oil field has been completed, setting the stage for more production and drilling of new wells.

"The rehabilitation of the Sayed Nour oil field, eastern Amara, will immensely contribute to sustaining the overall production capacity of al-Bazarkan oil complex, which already reaches 120,000 barrels per day," a spokesman told the Voices of Iraq news agency.


Energy-hungry Turkey drilling for more oil

You may think that you cannot do without your car and therefore without the automotive industry, or that you can't live without your computer and consequently the information technology industry.

However, in reality there is just one industry which is more important than any other: the traditional energy industry. Without fuel from crude oil and natural gas, modern society and all its accoutrements would grind to a halt as cars would run out of oil and laptop batteries would never be recharged. Turkey is, sadly, energy poor; that is to say it lacks large fossil fuel reserves and has had to spend millions of YTL to generate power from its limited natural resources by building hydroelectric dams across most major rivers, solar panels on many houses and wind farms on the Aegean coast.


New faces but policies set to stay at OPEC

Less than a month before OPEC meets to set oil output for peak winter demand, countries accounting for almost a third of production are either without an energy minister or getting used to a new one.


Getting a grip in Iran

The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has engineered the removal of Iran's oil and industry ministers in a move widely interpreted as signalling his push to impose his will and control over core areas of the economy in the lead-up to the parliamentary election scheduled for March 2008.


Mexico Congress to Cut Taxes on Pemex, Senator Says

Mexican legislators agreed to reduce taxes on Petroleos Mexicanos, the state-owned oil company, by 60 billion pesos ($5.45 billion) a year to free up funds for the company to spend on increasing crude production.


Gas Gives Oil Giants A Foot In Middle East's Door

Since the 1970s, major oil companies have been shut out of oil production in much of the Middle East. Now, the doors to foreign investment are opening again, this time for natural gas.


Doubts over 'green' solar panels

Solar panels fitted to homes may be harming the environment more than conventional sources of energy, according to a study by scientists.

More energy is used to build, run, and recycle solar panels compared with that for fossil fuel systems, according to researchers.


Biofuel Must for India, Say Experts

Energy-starved India should invest in spurring large-scale cultivation of jatropha, a plant with seeds that can be mixed with fuel to form biodiesel, experts said Monday.


Oh, the horror.... Biofuel Boom Threatens Gummy Bears

First it was tortillas in Mexico, then it was Frosted Flakes in America and recently German beer. Now the latest food to become the victim of prices pushed up by the massive shift of crops to biofuel are Germany's beloved gummy bears.


Carbon-Free and Nuclear-Free: A Roadmap for U.S. Energy Policy

The other reason to actually go to 100 percent elimination is that climate change is shaping up to be more severe than estimated by models. We may have to remove CO2 from the atmosphere that has already been emitted to try to mitigate the severity. It makes no sense to remove CO2 at great expense while emitting more. So I studied the technical feasibility of achieving an energy economy actually eliminating all fossil fuels. Some coal and natural gas infrastructure would be maintained as a contingency, but not used unless there is a major technical failure. Even then coal would only be used with carbon sequestration.


Clean energy gets gnarly, dude

In the United States alone, wave technology could supply 6.5 percent of the nation's energy. No wonder, then, that startups are rushing to stake claims before someone else drops in on the best waves.


Why is America falling apart? Ask Ayn Rand

What's causing all this? Could it be the reverse of the "Atlas Shrugged" effect? Might it be that greedy capitalists, comfy in their private jets and third, fourth and fifth vacation homes, aren't paying attention to the national infrastructure that they don't think they need to use?


Energy: Europe's Escape Routes from Moscow

"You are seeing an attempt to enhance security by making any single supplier less important to the overall picture," said André Plourde, president of the International Association for Energy Economics. "If one supplier decides it is not interested in playing by the rules anymore, the impact would be smaller if you have alternatives [in sources or delivery routes] than it might otherwise be."

Not surprisingly, Russia has been resistant to EU efforts to diversify its energy supply and has not hidden efforts to undermine it: The union's most touted project, the Nabucco gas pipeline from Central Asia, received a significant blow in May, when Russian President Vladimir Putin traveled to Central Asia himself and closed deals with Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan to build a natural gas pipeline to tap the region of much of its gas and sell it back to Europe at a huge markup.


Iran plays the Central Asia card

Iran and Turkmenistan have similar perspectives on the hitherto inconclusive marathon discussions on the division of the Caspian Sea. Iran is weary of any undue shift in Turkmenistan's foreign policy in Russia's favor at a delicate time when Iran-Russia relations have hit a new low as a result of the nuclear row and Russia's appeasement of Washington's demand to link the fate of the Russian-made power plant in Bushehr to the nuclear crisis. With President Vladimir Putin beginning to flex Russian military muscle on Georgia, and through a joint military exercise with China, Iran's concerns about a new Russian militarism are unmistakable.


Think Tank Slams Solutions to N.Korea's Energy Crisis

The construction of light-water reactors or coal power plants or the direct provision of electricity will not be enough to help North Korea relieve its serious energy shortage, a state-run think tank says. The Korea Energy Economics Institute (KEEI) said such proposals betray a lack of understanding of the reality in North Korea and are inappropriate to solve the energy crisis across the border.


South Africa: Coal mine strike gathers momentum

The coal mine strike over low salaries continued on Tuesday with no end in sight, trade union Solidarity said.

"The people are still striking. There is no indication from the Chamber of Mines or from the strikers that they want to end the strike," said spokesperson Reint Dykema.


Cash-Stuffed Suitcase Splits Venezuela and Argentina

A scandal involving a Venezuelan businessman who tried to sneak nearly $800,000 into this country has opened a sudden rift between Venezuela and Argentina just a week after the governments signed debt and energy deals.


The Philippines: Reyes explores nuclear power option

The Department of Energy yesterday disclosed its plan to attract as much as $5 billion in investments into the natural gas sector and pursue nuclear options in order to avert a power crisis which is seen to hit the country starting 2009.


The changing face of energy security

China appears to believe that it can secure its energy imports by locking up oil contracts with pariah states like Sudan. However, while this short-sighted mercantilist approach creates foreign policy problems over issues like Darfur, it will not really protect China in a time of supply disruption.


Prices for many food staples are climbing by double-digit percentages

Why are food prices rising?

It’s partly because of corn prices, driven up by congressional mandates for ethanol production, which has reduced the amount of corn available for animal feed.

It’s also because of tougher immigration enforcement, which has made farm laborers scarcer, and a late spring freeze, which damaged fruit and vegetable crops. And it’s because of higher diesel fuel costs to run tractors and attractive foreign markets that take U.S. production.


Asia demand for W.Africa oil rebounds to 1.3 mln bpd

Asian demand for West African crude oil rose sharply to 1.3 million barrels per day in September, rebounding from a multi-year low reached the previous month, traders said on Monday.

The recent decline in ICE Brent crude futures, used as the benchmark in valuing West African grades, provided the financial incentive for Asian refiners to return to their usual purchasing levels.


The Impact of Peak Oil on Rural Communities (PDF)

Over the next few years, as the price of oil increases and its availability declines dramatically on a global scale, there will be profound and far-reaching effects across society. This report collates information on what has been termed ‘Peak Oil’ both globally and for rural communities and centres on a discussion of the principal areas that will be affected by escalating oil prices.


Journey to the Past and/or the Future

But the lesson of southern Italy is that what goes up may come down. The disintegration of the Roman Empire resulted in the end of urban civilization in the South. Populations mysteriously disappeared, although archaeologists and historians most suspect plague and environmental collapse as the root causes.

In any case, the Mediterranean economy -- based on trade -- fell apart. Instead of a commercial highway for grains, olive oil, wine and manufactured goods, the Mediterranean became an invasion route.


Climate Change And Permafrost Thaw Alter Greenhouse Gas Emissions In Northern Wetlands

Permafrost - the perpetually frozen foundation of North America - isn't so permanent anymore, and scientists are scrambling to understand the pros and cons when terra firma goes soft. Permafrost serves like a platform underneath vast expanses of northern forests and wetlands that are rooted, literally, in melting permafrost in many northern ecosystems. But rising atmospheric temperatures are accelerating rates of permafrost thaw in northern regions, says MSU researcher Merritt Turetsky.

In the report, "The Disappearance of Relict Permafrost in Boreal North America: Effects on Peatland Carbon Storage and Fluxes," in this week's online edition of Global Change Biology, Turetsky and others explore whether melting permafrost can lead to a viscous feedback of carbon exchange that actually fuels future climate change.


OPEC ups estimate for oil demand growth despite world economic woes

OPEC has slightly increased its estimate for world oil demand growth in 2007 despite current economic turmoil, the powerful cartel said in a report Tuesday.

"World oil demand growth in 2007 is forecast at 1.3 million barrels per day (bpd), or 1.5 percent, slightly higher than the estimate for last month, reflecting additional oil needs for Japanese power plants," the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries said in its monthly report.


Oil, gas prices mixed on storm forecast

Energy futures retreated from earlier highs on Monday as a revised forecast predicted a tropical storm will turn away from the Gulf of Mexico, and as refinery problems turned out not to be as bad as initially thought.

Tropical Depression Four, located in the central Atlantic Ocean, is strengthening and bearing down on the Caribbean Sea. But forecasters now believe the storm will swing north toward the Eastern Seaboard and away from the Gulf.


Denmark Attempts to Prove Claims to North Pole

A Danish expedition in the Arctic will map the sea depths north of Greenland in an attempt to back up the country's claims to the much-disputed territory, the Danish government said today.

Denmark is looking into whether the Lomonossov Ridge, an underwater mountain chain between Greenland and Siberia, is an extension of Greenland.


Kunstler: Margin Call

The seas were a mite choppy off Hedge Fund Island last week after all when the Federal Reserve started tossing life preservers of ready cash to the Big Fund Boyz bobbing and thrashing in the swells. Now, about that "money" — which is, in essence, a bunch of extended lines of credit at the Fed's artificially-low official interest rate — what actually happens to it? The simple answer is: it disappears into the same ocean of financial woe that the Boyz are drowning in.


A bridge not far enough

Scotland - and the rest of the UK too - will need a solid public works strategy as the fairy gold of Brown's boom vanishes.


Foreign roads can be deadly for U.S. travelers

Motor vehicle crashes — not crime or terrorism — are the No. 1 killer of healthy Americans in foreign countries. And the threat to travelers is poised to increase dramatically as worldwide economic growth gives more people access to motor vehicles.


Carolyn Baker: In Praise Of "Sicko" But What Happens After The U.S. Healtcare System Dies?

It behooves every American who takes collapse seriously and is consciously preparing for it, to learn healthcare skills. An individual can enroll in or audit almost any basic emergency lifesaving or first aid course at local community colleges or hospitals around the country. Health care professionals who are preparing for collapse can take their preparation to the next level by offering informal workshops on various aspects of healthcare for non-professionals. Moreover, a basic knowledge of herbal remedies and a generous inventory of them is essential, not only as access to traditional healthcare diminishes but as herbal remedies themselves become more difficult to acquire in terms of prices and the likelihood of government control or elimination of them.


DiCaprio brightens up on gloomy green outlook

Tired of global warming doom and gloom? Here's something new from Hollywood's king of green, Leonardo DiCaprio: there is hope for a brighter future.

Environmental activist DiCaprio's documentary "The 11th Hour" opens in theaters on Friday, and although the film starts with a bleak outlook on issues like global warming, much of the roughly 90-minute movie suggests ways to heal the environment with human, government and corporate action.


Australian cities face water shortage

Nearly every Australian city will have to find new water supplies over the next decade as climate change and population growth stretch the nation's already limited water resources, according to a study released Tuesday.


Swedish PM targets US over climate change

Sweden's prime minister called for more pressure on the United States and the major developing countries over climate change at the opening Monday of an international conference on water issues.


Technology is key on global warming: Bush adviser

The United States on Tuesday staked out its position ahead of a climate change summit next month by endorsing new technologies, paid for by rapid economic growth, as the way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

SCO Now the New Warsaw Pact, Counterpoint to NATO

Is the SCO, which consists of China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, on the verge of being transformed into a new Warsaw Pact, a Eurasian counterbalance to the US-led North Atlantic Treaty Organization(NATO)?

Edited to cut it down to a link and excerpt.

Iran Ahmadinejad To Attend SCO Summit - Full Membership to be Discussed

The president will hold talks with his Afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai in Kabul on Tuesday before leaving for Turkmenistan and then attending a summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) in Kyrgyzstan.

A source in the president's office said Ahmadinejad would be seeking to raise Iran's status at the SCO group, which brings together Russia and China with other Central Asian states, from observer to full member.

During the SCO summit, Ahmadinejad will hold talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Chinese President Hu Jintao.

Iran, along with Pakistan and Mongolia, is an observer nation at the SCO but is looking to enhance its role to make the group a counterpoint to US influence in the region.

http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp?NewsCode=53496&New...

http://www.payvand.com/news/07/aug/1099.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070814/wl_nm/china_centralasia_dc_1

Analysts Unable to Discount the Possibility that War Will Break Out

"The Syrians have been busy building extensive defensive works on the southern Golan Heights, after having completed similar preparations on the northern part of the area.

Syria also continues to procure large numbers of advanced Russian-made anti-aircraft and anti-tank missiles, in part with Iranian funding, though most of the shipments have yet to be delivered.

Syrian forces have also been reinforced along the border, and training of units has been stepped up."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/893054.html

Iran Replaces Oil Minister, Says No Hike in OPEC Output

Hardline Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad issued a decree late on Sunday which, in a surprise move, replaced Oil Minister Vaziri Hamaneh with the head of the national oil company, Gholam Hossein Nozari.

"The decisions that will be taken in future will be done with coordination between the oil ministry and the government."

In one of his final statements as oil minister of OPEC's number two producer and the world's fourth biggest, Vaziri Hamaneh said last month that Iran firmly opposed a hike in OPEC's crude oil output.

http://www.iranmania.com/News/ArticleView/Default.asp?NewsCode=53499&New...

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=166689...

Raise your hand if you thought POST PEAK IRAN was going to increase output anyways.

Last time I checked they only had 50KBPD *spare* capacity anyways. Since they are in decline, doubt it exists anymore anyways.

Israel, US, Turkey Hold Joint Maritime Recovery Operations

"The objective of this exercise is to practice coordinated emergency search and rescue procedures and measures for safety of life at sea," a spokesman said in a statement.

Such proceedures would be used to recover downed pilots in the Mediterranean.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070814/wl_mideast_afp/mideastisraelturkeyu...

Leanan,

This was a link in yesterday's drumbeat that didn't work. Where can I find this article?

The Pillars of the Next Real Revolution

Thanks! You do great work.

Try here.

Speaking of malfunctioning links, why do the CLU07.NYM oil futures graphs that usually show on the right side of the page keep showing Aug 10th numbers?

It was working just fine up until last Friday, then suddenly stopped. Yahoo problem?

Thanks, Steve.

Easy, just google "The Pillars of the Next Real Revolution"

It came up #1 when I did it.

http://www.newwest.net/index.php/main/article/the_pillars_of_the_next_re...

Ron Patterson

Re: "Technology is key on global warming: Bush adviser"

The article contains one howler after another. I particularly like this one:

"The emerging consensus is that the solution to climate change is the advancement of technology," James Connaughton, Bush's senior environmental adviser, told reporters.

Emerging consenus? From where? From James Connaughton's hind parts? Did it ever occur to James Connaughton that global warming might be caused by (drumroll)...THE ADVANCEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY?!?

I will agree with one thing that he says though: "... if you don't have a growing economy, you don't have the resources to pay for the new technologies." (though I would probably rephrase that to say "if you don't have cheap energy...")

To steal a phrase from the Mogambo: We're Scroomed!!!

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry reading that one. I guess the idea the economic growth is the problem is incomprehensible to the average American.

I'm starting to understand why the Easter Islanders' reaction to tightening resource constraints was to build more and bigger statues...

Yeah, and I loved this one:

"This is wonderful to see, and America stands ready to assist on technology, to assist in innovative financing and assist in standards and practices so that together we can grow our economies ... in a more sustainable way," he said.

Ha!Ha! Is this guy trying to be funny? Because if he is, he ought to have his own show. "...assist on technology?" The country that is still fighting to hang onto it's fleet of 12 mpg SUVs?

"...assist in innovative financing?" Hasn't the world had about enough of America's "innovative financing" of late?!?

The guy's a laugh a minute.

See: 'Confessions of an Economic Hit Man'

Interview on Democracy Now!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/wanniski/wanniski53.html

" JOHN PERKINS: ... The first real economic hit man was back in the early 1950's, Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson of Teddy, who overthrew of government of Iran, a democratically elected government, Mossadegh’s government who was Time's magazine person of the year; and he was so successful at doing this without any bloodshed – well, there was a little bloodshed, but no military intervention, just spending millions of dollars and replaced Mossadegh with the Shah of Iran..."

Then read "Will the real economic hit men please stand up?". Regarding "Democracy Now!", I highly recommend "What's wrong with Amy Goodman?" and "The Empress Has No Clothes".

Thanks for the links, would you mind making a bit of your point here and now, for those not without the time to follow the links.

I am aware from a friend who has shot video for them, that there's no small irony in suffering poor labor conditions while working on a news program that advocates for labor rights, among other things.. just the same, if you have something to add, why not say some of it in your own words?

Bob

Why spoil the surprise?

No, I'm happy to elaborate. I could write tomes. In fact, I started to before I decided to cut it down to this:

I saw the interview with Perkins. I donated money. I received a copy of the book. I remember thinking, "He said the CIA approved the book. What could he possibly reveal other than filling in details of the horrible deeds the U.S. Empire and its corporate surrogates have committed over the last century?" Months later I saw the piece in From The Wilderness. The very first paragraph answers that:

A "limited hangout" is a partial confession, a mea culpa, if you will, that leaves the essence of a crime or covert reality hidden. Because it includes some small part of the truth, the limited hangout is irresistibly attractive to dissidents and political critics whose thirst for such truth makes them jump at the dangled scraps. Once the system's watchdogs are busy chewing on the limited hangout, the guilty players can go about their illegal business for a new round of unaccountable, semi-secret mayhem.

"Limited hangout" is a term I learned a couple of years ago, in the context of 9/11 being an inside job. I do not mean to start a flame war but I will just point out that by "inside job" I do not mean "Bush did it." I am so sick of that worn out strawman.

In any case, the pieces on Amy Goodman are largely about 9/11. But there's another subject she avoids, peak oil. That actually offends me more than her handling of 9/11. There are any number of reasons to impeach and/or prosecute members of this administration; 9/11 and the subsequent cover-up are but a part. Peak oil, on the other hand, is, with the possible exception of white male capitalist patriarchy, the best kept secret from the general population. It isn't even "debunked" in the mainstream media; it's still in the "First, they ignore you" phase. To the best of my knowledge the phrase "peak oil" has yet to be uttered on any mainstream TV channel. If someone knows otherwise, please do tell.

I listen to DN fairly often. They do talk about Peak Oil and matter-of-factly, at that.

Has Global Oil Production Reached Maximum Capacity? A Debate on Peak Oil

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/28/1439240

Blood of the Earth: Dilip Hiro on the Battle for the World’s Vanishing Oil Resources

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/31/1543222

They also hosted a debate between the Loose Change conspiracy theorists and the Popular Mechanics debunkers. Neither side covered themselves with glory.

Peak Oil has definitely been mentioned in MSM here. The New Zealand Listener (weekly mainstream national mag) ran a series of articles in their May 26-June 1 issue on the green revolution, one of which (pgs 23-24) raised Peak Oil as a major problem.

It was particularly interesting to a see a senior lecturer in mechanical engineering who had made a career looking at the possibility of a hydrogen economy, saying that it just wouldn't work, even though they wanted to convince themselves it would.

"You can never solve a problem on the level on which it was created."
Albert Einstein

Yeah, I'm sorry, Bench, but while DN has covered 911truth a couple times, as the first article you linked (Will the real economic hitmen please stand up?) suggested was what journalists were overlooking BECAUSE of these 'limited hangout' examples like 'Confessions of an EHM ..' But they cover a respectable range of topics, regularly touching on Darfur, on Immigration and related Farm and Labor issues in the US, on Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan.. Israel/Palestine, etc.. They have had Robert Fiske from the Independent reporting out of Beirut (who is great) a number of times, getting more history, context and perspective on Middle East stories than anything you'll find in much of the soft, gray middle or the flaming right-wing end of the media.

You should listen a couple more times and see if you don't find some stories you actually appreciate someone covering.

Bob

What's wrong with Amy is that she has a difficult choice.

Either she can try to be impartial and let the flacks spin away, or she can challenge them. Jon Stewart spoke about trying to get a straight answer out of Ari Fleischer. I listen to all sorts of talk shows and the fact is that many guests are better at obfuscation than journalists are at cutting through it.

" ... almost never does Amy Goodman or her guest dig deeper, connecting the dots with the current epidemic of disappearing pensions, the disastrous housing bubble which is in the process of bursting, the ramifications of the new bankruptcy law, widespread doubling of monthly credit card payments, and a plethora of issues that signal global economic collapse. "

Huh? I've posted DN links on most of these topics right here on TOD.

Let's not single out Amy Goodman for punishment. Like every star in far-left media, her status depends on what far-left consumers think of her. If she were to say things that make her audience feel bad, they would tune her out.

Overshoot, collapse and dieoff make people feel bad. That's why they don't talk about it on the radio or TV. If they did, people would change the channel. Even when Jared Diamond's on TV, 99% of the time he is very careful to avoid saying anything too sad.

The purpose of far-left media is to catch people who can't digest mainstream media lies, and keep them fed with media that's a little more truthful. Without really showing them what's behind the curtain.

This isn't a conspiracy. It's a product. People need to feel good, and the far-left media provides a product that enables some of them to feel good.

Bmcnett, I agree with everything you say except your very stupid reference to "the far-left media".

Ignorance gone to seed!

The far-right media, Fox, is just as guilty as anyone. Nay, they are by far the guiltiest. And the middle or the road media, NBC, is equally guilty. And CNBC is as far right as any of them. They are almost, but not quite, as guilty as Fox. Everything you get from CNBC is all peaches and cream.

The Far-Right Media are the ones who would have us believe that the free market will solve all our problems. The Far-Right Media are the ones who will book no dissent to the idea that the great American way of life is in no danger as long as we keep electing on good republican politicans to to solve the world's problems.

The fact of the matter is all the media downplays the problem, left, right and center. No one wants to hear bad news and no one wants to deliver bad news. This is one issue that is truly bipartisan. But if you hate the left you will blame the far-left and if you hate the right you will blame the far-right.

Stop being so childish Bm-whatever, and get it right.

Ron Patterson

Ron,

I agree with you completely, the far-right media is simply evil.

All media are guilty of whitewashing the news, but the far-left media should know better.

They spend so much energy carefully peeling away the layers of propaganda from mainstream and far-right media, and they do a good job of it. But then they stop peeling before mentioning limits to growth.

This lulls a lot of smart people into feeling that the limits-to-growth people are a zany fringe.

I'm not the sharpest fellow, and they had me convinced for ten or fifteen years that the world's biggest problem is the evil rich.

The evil rich are bad, no question about it. But overpopulation and resource depletion are even worse. Wish I could have heard about those fifteen years ago.

Bmcnett, sorry I did not mean to lose it but I have been hearing this far-left media crap for years and it is a crock. The media is left, it is right and it is center. And right now I think that it is more right than left. At least I know the financial news networks, Bloomberg and CNBC are far right. And these are the stations that should be addressing peak oil and they are not.

Ron

Maybe we should try that statue thing. We could carve giant SUVs and set them around our cities.

Right! And use giant styrofoam blocks as the media!

God Lord Man! Think of what you are saying!

Statues of SUVs carved out of old grow redwoods, at 2:1 scale, is the only sane option!

Death to the styrofoam infidels!

Are You suggesting the US will turn into a Cargo Cult?

I can see primitive post-crash Americans building fake Wal-Marts and waiting for them to be filled.

Well, yeah, sounds about right to me.

It's not much of a stretch, is it?

Cargo Cult Capitalism: america's waking dream!

Peak Oil Tarzan

Sometimes I think the problem with the technocornucopians and us is we don't speak the same language. Advances in technology will provide significant mitigation. Clean coal (a misnomer if I ever heard one) could not exist without the advancements in technology. But, we wouldn't need clean coal technology if the population of the world were the 2 billion people that it was at my birth. We're burning triple the fossil fuel because the population has tripled. Natural mechanisms would quite possibly take care of most of the problems, and there wouldn't be the pressure on resources of all kinds.

If I were the richest man in the world, I'd set up a foundation where developing world children got free tuition for elementary education if their daddy had a vasectomy or their mother had her tubes tied. The point would be that the parents could offer a path to enough education to break the cycle of poverty by acting responsibly.

That's the key. End the wretched poverty and birthrates would fall below replacement rates, like in the OED countries. Even out the playing field a little with education.

oilmanbob, I agree with you: education would go a long way toward solving many of our problems.

Call me a cynic, but I decided some time ago that TPTB weren't particularly interested in educating the masses. If they did that, who would scrub their commodes and cut their lawns?