DrumBeat: August 27, 2007

Energy futures rebound on refinery woes

The September gasoline contract led the way, reversing an early loss of more than a cent and gaining more than 5 cents on continued concerns about the impact of a mid-August fire at Chevron Corp.'s 330,000 barrel per day Pascagoula, Miss., refinery.

Trade media reports late last week said Chevron had canceled a 550,000-barrel Venezuelan crude order. The company has declined to verify that report, but did say, "we are working closely with our crude suppliers and expect some crude shipments may be canceled or rerouted to other refineries in our global network."

Forecast for solar power: Sunny

Solar power has long been the Mercedes-Benz of the renewable energy industry: sleek, quiet, low-maintenance.

Yet like a Mercedes, solar energy is universally adored but prohibitively expensive for most people. A 4-kilowatt solar photovoltaic system costs about $34,000 without government rebates or tax breaks.

As a result, solar power accounts for well under 1% of U.S. electricity generation. Other alternative energy sources, such as wind, biomass and geothermal, are far more widely deployed.

The outlook for solar, though, is getting much brighter. A few dozen companies say advances in technology will let them halve the price of solar-panel installations in as little as three years. By 2014, solar-system prices will be competitive with conventional electricity when energy savings are figured in, Deutsche Bank (DB) says. And that's without government incentives.

If that happens, solar panels would become common home and business appliances, says Brandon Owens of Cambridge Energy Research Associates.


The rise and fall of great space powers

This upsurge of interest may represent the anxieties of the moment more than any real move in this direction, of course, and as a practical matter can do little to alleviate the causes of those anxieties. The plans are too long range to do anything about the price of oil this year or the next, or if the peak oil theorists are correct, the big crunch due in the next decade. Helium-3 may not be a practical energy source for decades, if ever, and in either case, a great deal of work likely remains to be done both lowering the cost of space launch, and reducing the size and weight of the payloads needed to get a space-based infrastructure up and running. (See “Diversifying our planetary portfolio”, The Space Review, August 6, 2007) Still, if these or other such plans were realized they would mark the end of the time when space was just a critical node in terrestrial information flows, and the beginning of one in which space itself provides substantial, tangible, essential resources.


Raymond J. Learsy: The Iowa State Fair, America's Energy Future. Better Over a Bushel Than Over a Barrel

It is on the demand side of the equation where national leadership is lacking. Certainly one of the most effective and immediate ways to break our "oil addiction" is to legislate a cap on the nation's gasoline consumption and to fairly distribute the available gasoline through a rationing or a voucher distribution program. In spite of its many attributes given the manifold dynamic of our looming energy crisis, one can fairly ask who among the myriad of presidential hopefuls jousting through Iowa these past weeks even uttered let alone permitted the words "gasoline rationing" to pass their lips. Such is its perception by mainstream politicians and much of the media as being unthinkable policy, and politically anathema. Yet times they are a-changing! America's public may be well ahead of our politicians in comprehending that a sea change in direction is now imperative.


How low can oil go?

Fundamentals are in place to support the oil price above US$60 a barrel, says economic analyst.


King Coal: What It Costs Us

Claims about a 250-year supply of coal won't stand up to scrutiny for long, either. Yes, the United States has more coal than any other nation. But we've been mining coal in this country for 150 years -- all the simple, high-quality, easy-to-get stuff is gone. What's left is buried beneath towns and national parks, or places that are difficult, expensive and dangerous to mine. The blunt truth is, if we're going to become more dependent on coal, more miners will die. How many mining tragedies will we accept in the name of "cheap" electricity?


With coal production, cleaner skies could mean more landfills

As the nation's coal-fired power plants work to create cleaner skies, they'll likely fill up landfills with millions more tons of potentially harmful ash.


UK oil firms cheating investors, says Russia

Russia stepped up the pressure on British-listed energy and mining companies yesterday with an influential Moscow regulator alleging that some of them were "cheating" investors by exaggerating their reserves.


Iran sees no oil project funding problems

Iran will not have problems financing energy projects, the caretaker oil minister said in recent remarks, despite US pressure and UN sanctions.

Iran is enjoying windfall oil revenues because of high crude prices but foreign firms are increasingly reluctant to do business with the Islamic Republic because of sanctions imposed in a row with the West over the country's nuclear ambitions.

'In the oil industry, we will not face financing problems. Of course there are some limitations in this regard, but they can be solved,' Jahan-e Eqtesad newspaper quoted acting Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari as saying.


Dubai takes centerstage at Oil Barons Ball in Aberdeen

'The message was loud and clear - forget Dallas, Dubai is the centre of the oil and gas world,' said Michael, who is now working on Dubai's fifth edition of the Oil Barons Ball to be held at Emirates Golf Club 9th November 2007.


China: More funds to face 'vital situation'

The central government will pour billions of yuan into special projects to help meet the country's energy-saving targets.

Local officials are also about to come under increased pressure to toe the government line to meet the targets, otherwise their political futures could be in jeopardy.


Vietnam to tap new energy source of gas hydrates

Vietnam will probe into gas hydrates, a new source of energy, found on seabed and continental shelf to replace the gradual exhaustion of its oil and gas reserves.


Turkey measures wind energy amid shortage concerns

The Ministry of Energy and Natural Resources is turning to alternative energy sources as a means of combating electricity shortages expected to hit the country in a few years, provided sufficient resources to satisfy the booming demand cannot be found.


Nature trumps decades of effort

Experts said that, in spite of major gains made since the 1950s in improving farming practices and controlling floods in the steep valleys of the Driftless Area, the storms show how difficult it can be to control such historic rains. With nature at its absolute worst, one of the few ways to save homes and businesses is to make sure they 're built out of the path of floods in the first place, they said, adding that affected communities such as Gays Mills should consider that fact as they rebuild.


The agonies of agflation: Fuel for the body and the car

SHARING pain is usually deemed a good thing. So advocates of dishing out agony will be gladdened that the wallet-crunching pangs of car drivers filling up with petrol are now equalled by the wince-inducing stabs felt by shoppers piling up their supermarket trolleys. As oil prices stay high, wheat prices hit an all-time peak of over $7.50 a bushel for December delivery at the end of trading in Chicago on Thursday August 23rd.

The soaring prices of bushels and barrels are not unconnected. The cost of agricultural commodities, just like oil and metals, has gone up sharply over the past couple of years. Aside from wheat, the prices of corn, rice and barley have all risen by over a third since 2005. Food prices around the world are rising so quickly that a new term has been coined to describe the ballooning price of breakfast staples and dinner-time favourites: agflation.


Don't blame ethanol for the price of food

A number of recent news stories and radio talk shows have claimed that higher corn prices due to the demand for ethanol are causing higher food prices. These reports are usually vague about the specific connection and usually have few if any facts that higher corn prices have influenced consumer food prices.

In fact, there is little evidence to link a rise in any food category to higher corn prices.


Ethanol Industry Goes Into Spin Mode On Livestock Feed

The one thing proponents of ethanol have been trying to sweep under the table during their endless drive to cram the fuel down our throats with endless subsidies and mandates is the fact that widespread use of one of our staple crops for fuel is going to make livestock feed more expensive. A cost that will, along with the rising cost of corn due to more of it being diverted to ethanol production, be passed on to those buying foods

So now the ethanol industry must do something to keep up their ag-friendly appearance and convince us all that the fuel isn’t a pipe dream that will eventually do more to line the products of big-ag and big-biofuel moves-and-shakers than solve our fuel problems. Their answer? They put out propaganda about ethanol byproducts being used as livestock feed


Ethanol offers clean energy source

The first plant to produce ethanol fuel from biomass in Viet Nam is expected to come on line in 2008. Petrosetco deputy director Ho Sy Long spoke to Dai Doan Ket (Great Unity) newspaper about the project.


Protesters defy junta crackdown in Myanmar town

Around 50 members of Myanmar's main opposition party staged a protest march in a provincial town on Monday, witnesses said, as a major junta crackdown failed to stifle rare displays of public anger at soaring fuel prices.


United Nations warns fuel price hikes could worsen Myanmar's economic situation

The United Nations Monday warned fuel price hikes in Myanmar could worsen the country's precarious economic situation, as dozens of pro-democracy activists resumed their protests against the increase.


UN rights chief tells Myanmar to release protesters

Myanmar should immediately release about 65 protesters arrested earlier this month during a demonstration against fuel price increases, the top U.N. human rights official said.


Junta Urges Monks Not to Protest

Burma’s military leaders have been trying to persuade monks in Mandalay not to take part in protests that began last week in response to a sharp rise in fuel and commodity prices, according to local monks.


Sinopec posts sharp rise in profit as oil prices slip

China Petroleum & Chemical, the biggest Asian oil refiner, said Sunday that its profit surged 66 percent in the first half of this year on rising demand for gasoline and chemicals and falling costs for crude oil.


Kuwait records second largest surplus in its history, despite a huge increase in spending

In its latest economic brief on public finance, National Bank of Kuwait reports that Kuwait closed the year on another massive budget surplus driven by high oil prices. Although down on last year’s number, the 2006/07 surplus, at KD 5.2 billion before payments into the Reserve Fund for Future Generations (RFFG), was still the second highest in Kuwait’s history.


Stop Congress before it makes another big mess

Congress is behaving just as it did in 1973 after the OPEC embargo. The same caterwauling about alleged obscene profits and price gouging that is being sounded today was reverberating 34 years ago, and Congress' response was to pass a series of laws that did little or nothing to enhance the nation's energy supply.

Instead, the heavy hand of government intervention distorted the marketplace and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars on impractical or uneconomical alternatives to conventional energy supplies. Sometimes referred to as a "travesty in five acts," our national energy policy in the early 1970s actually increased rather than decreased our dependence on foreign sources of supply.


Mutiny Shakes US Food Aid Industry

One of the largest international aid organizations in the world turned the food aid industry on its head recently by declaring that they will turn down 46 million dollars in food subsidies from the U.S. government.The United States budgets 2 billion dollars a year in food aid, which buys U.S. crops to feed populations facing starvation amidst crisis or those that endure chronic hunger.

But the U.S.-based CARE International has forfeited its substantial slice of the food aid pie that is the U.S. “Food for Peace” program, claiming that the way the U.S. government distributes food hurts small poor farmers in the very communities and countries the program is supposed to help.


Local trucking company unveils new generation smog-free truck

The new 2007 model trucks are equipped with a device known as a particulate trap, which filters out microscopic particulate matter known to be harmful to human health.

...The engines also use ultra low sulphur diesel fuel and have been designed to meet new government standards that mandate all new engines from 2007 onward must reduce smog and greenhouse gas emissions.

But being environmentally-friendly doesn’t always come cheap. The trucks cost about $8,000 more than last year’s model without the environmental package and are a big investment for any company.


Toyota wary of real consumer demand in U.S. for plug-in cars

Toyota Motor, maker of the best-selling gasoline-electric car in the world, has said that extensive U.S. consumer tests are needed before it offers hybrids that can be recharged at household outlets for limited all-electric driving.


The end of traffic jams?

A remarkable study into the way millions of people will travel in the future reveals a world where cars drive themselves, people could be tagged so they are constantly monitored, and nearly all modes of transport can be run by computers rather than people.


Kazakhstan suspends Kashagan oilfield

Kazakhstan suspended work at the huge Kashagan oilfield for at least three months on Monday, raising the stakes in the long-delayed project developed by a consortium of Western oil majors.

The project's start-up delays and cost overruns have long irked Kazakhstan. It has threatened to revoke a permit held by an Eni-led group to exploit the Caspian Sea site, the world's biggest oil find in decades, over ecological concerns.


Fire at UAE port's chemical depot put out

Fire-fighters extinguished a blaze that tore through a chemical storage depot at Jebel Ali port in the United Arab Emirates on Monday, the second fire in two weeks at a cargo port in the Gulf Arab oil exporter.


Peak Oil - less Govt revenue

Governments like ours, that depend generally on taxes from Big Oil for their revenues to support the county's economy, then have to give more and more incentives to encourage Big Oil's exploration. Countries with the Dutch disease are caught in a Catch 22 situation since the exploitation of and returns from the natural resource are the unique drivers of the economy.

The revenues due to government, that reflect the new exploration and increased production costs funded by further incentives, will be consequently reduced. Peak Oil/Gas is reached then for such governments when change in revenue from taxes etc, with respect to corresponding change in production (i.e. marginal returns to government on production) is inconsequential.


Gas down nearly 3 cents in 2 weeks

The national average price for gasoline dropped about 2.9 cents over the last two weeks, according to a survey released Sunday.


Cities block bulky homes on little lots

Cities continue to rein in "teardowns" of old houses and the giant homes that replace them despite a housing slump that has slowed construction.

The outcry over huge new homes squeezed onto small lots has not let up. Residents are angry because expensive new homes raise property taxes. Neighbors resent the shadow they cast over their older, modest bungalows and ramblers. Preservationists say they destroy the historical character of neighborhoods.


Doc displays 'Way to Go' in oil usage

"What a Way to Go: Life at the End of Empire" is a documentary hardly named for the cliché words of encouragement, "way to go." While it may not be the type of film that pats society on the back, it aims to educate and even to warn.


Merkel presses China on climate change

German Chancellor Angela Merkel urged China on Monday to do more to halt climate change, prompting the response that the developed West has been polluting the skies for much longer than the newly developing Chinese.

Securitized Mortgage Fraud - The Ponzi Unwinds

Even in good times the Ponzi business model employed by most of the mortgage banking industry required ever increasing loan volumes to keep default rates down. New loans typically don’t go bad as fast as bad loans, so the rapid growth rate of the sector helped hide the truth about the quality of their holdings. Now that the sector is having trouble growing, reported default rates are on the rise and profits are evaporating.The market for mortgage backed securities grew far too rapidly, and the supply of easy credit had to end.

http://brokerwatchdog.com/2006/10/22/the-mortgage-ponzi-schemes-continue...

Ponzi’ finance units must increase outstanding debt in order to meet its financial obligations.” - Hyman Minsky

Credit Suisse on a monthly basis puts out one of the most data filled reports in the biz on mortgage and consumer finance. A careful reading of the latest issue, enables one to piece together the nature of the American asset Bubble consumer financing Ponzi scheme.
The macro question is, how can this benign “risk free” environment continue if Ponzi equity extraction from declining housing values abates at all? And even worse, what happens if large layoffs spread into the real estate and construction areas of the economy.

http://wallstreetexaminer.com/blogs/winter/?p=139

Like a Ponzi scheme, it is good until it isn’t. Think of it as musical chairs. When chairs are plenty, everyone is having fun. Yet as the music winds down, we know that eventually only one person will be able to sit.

http://drhousingbubble.blogspot.com/2006/10/ponzi-financing-house-that-c...

Noticed all those "ReFi" commercials have pretty much disappeared. Guess the House of Cards has collapsed. All that's left is the unwinding and the pain.(a clear understatement on my part)

It's very hard to overstate the scale of what's happening. The US housing market is one of, if not the single largest asset classes in the world. The nominal value of this asset class doubled and tripled and more in a very short period of time. A large part of that paper increase was extracted and consumed. What backs the $20+ trillion (US) in paper held by the investors all over the world?

All prior Ponzi schemes were of such a scale that they could be followed yet larger ones after a decent interval. What can follow this one? It would seem the the US and even the world economy is a Ponzi scheme, one that is rapidly unwinding.

Yep, this is the big one. They've squeezed the world dry and the Fat Lady is singing the final number. Let me coin the phrase now. "The Greater Depression."

Another truth respecting the vigilance with which a free people should guard their liberty, that deserves to be carefully observed, is this--that a real tyranny may prevail in a state, while the forms of a free constitution remain.

Screw it. Lock and Load.

No, I'm calling it The Great Decline. "Depression" holds out hope that it is just a temporary dip, followed by a recovery. This time, we level off permanently lower.

Permanently? Remember, forever is a very long time indeed.

Depends - is this 'experiment' controlling for population levels? I'm betting with a greatly reduced population - the way the survivors live could be quite well.

You would be more honest to call it "The End." We will not level off. We will go down, down, down, down, Rock Lobster! :)

"It's very hard to overstate the scale of what's happening."

Oh Contrare', Dave, it's been VERY easy to overstate the scale of what's happening.

A few upmarket Wall Street and MSNBC bubble makers lose 3% to 5% of their mistress bait townhouse on the beach or luxury vacation home on the lake, which already overvalued by 150% and they whip up a frenzy in hopes of having someone come in and bail them out.

"Ponzi scam" is the right word, but they want us to be their losers in proxy.
So the press runs stories (calling them "news stories" would discredit the concept of "news") showing some crying "middle class" person saying they are going to lose their house, a house that no middle class person I ever knew would have been dumb enough to buy that looks like the ranch house on Southfork used in the set of "Dallas".

In the meantime, charming old 2,000 square foot houses sit for sale down in the shady nieghborhoods of town, because banks won't finance "old sheds" like them...."interest is low, why don't you just get a NEW HOUSE, WITH ALL THE LUXURIES, IMPRESS YOUR FRIENDS WHEN THEY COME OVER, huh?"

And if the Chinese and German bankers were idiots enough to buy into this mess, well, sorry for your lot boys, but we have all taken flyers. Take your whippin' and get it over with.

For 3 plus years anybody with a brain knew this housing thing was out on it's latter legs, especially the way the game was being played....the same ones who put pretty talking heads on the air saying "there's still lots of life left in the housing boom!" and "prices, while up greatly, still show lots of room on the upside!"

Now they howl. They overstated it on the way, they are far overstating it on the way down. The best thing to do is get out of the way and sweep up the rubble later. We do not owe them a rescue, which is what all this hysteria is all about.

RC

Roger,

I read what you said several times as I couldn't tell whether you were agreeing or not. I finally came to the conclusion that you recognize what's happening but not the SCALE of what's happening. As far as the financial markets are concerned, this is an extinction level event. Like a big financial asteroid coming down and wiping out the markets.

Cid,

I like the imagery. But I'm having a hard time finding the place where you prove that this is a big asteroid and not just a shooting star. Mostly what I'm seeing (and to be clear, it isn't only you) is scare mongering and hyperbole. I'm not saying the current events aren't "it," just saying I've yet to see the proof.

Proof you won't get, except from the passage of time. But the scale of the event is what is crucial. I made a mistake in saying $20+ trillion in paper is held -- that's the total market value (at peak) of the US housing stock. But some significant part of that is mortgaged. But that peak value is rapidly disappearing, not simply because of defaulting mortgages. Also playing into it is what we are all aware of here at TOD -- peak oil. This too will lead to a complete devaluation of US housing stock, especially suburbia, but not just. The failure to expand would be bad enough, because this is what allowed the extraction of equity. But with decline, not only will extraction of equity cease, mass consumption and therewith all other sectors of the economy become involved. Further, the housing Ponzi scheme is not the only one that's been going on. The hedge funds and the LBO's are a whole other area, but I've followed it much less carefully.

Paint me a picture whereby things end up other than quite disastrously. Please.

"Paint me a picture whereby things end up other than quite disastrously. Please."

Screw it. Disaster is good. It cleans out all the bs. Bring it on. I no longer give a shit.

Disaster has often been the lot of humans in this world. This century we've largely whipped infectious disease, done amazing things in terms of food production, the continental U.S. hasn't seen a land war in a century and a half, and we've gone forty years without a land war involving large numbers of citizens. We're totally, completely, utterly spoiled compared to how 99% of humanity has made their way in our history.

Instead of recognizing this boon for what it was we did what every spoiled rich child does - binge, binge, binge. Now the trust fund is down to a small three digit number and we're looking around trying to figure out how to have another great big party. This will not happen.

The only peaceful road out of this is a Ghandi caliber leader who can turn the whole world from material consumption to things of an intellectual and spiritual nature.

So ... we're basically screwed.

Paint me a picture whereby things end up other than quite disastrously. Please

I hope for nothing worse than post-Katrina New Orleans for the USA post-Peak Oil.

If we work quite hard we can limit suicides to x6, overall mortality up only 50%, population density tripled in viable housing with most housing uninhabited, very limited health care, transportation, food supplies, erratic water & electricity, skyrocketing crime and a "Don't Give a Damn, You know they deserved it" attitude by the rest of the world.

Best Hopes,

Alan

"Mostly what I'm seeing (and to be clear, it isn't only you) is scare mongering and hyperbole."

IT'S ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING what the press is doing! ABC News had a piece on making claims that "the worse drop in housing values since the great depression" and "the biggest drop in housing values ever recorded", (SOURCE PLEASE!)
(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Then, in the ultimate irony the broadcaster says "The effect on consumer confidence could effect the whole economy, possibly causing a recession."

WHAT, A recession in a depression?

She then says, I kid you freakin' not, "consumer confidence has went down more in the last week than at anytime in the last 20 years."
(!!!!!)

DUH! With this shrill hysterical crap on every network, half the country will be hiding under the bed!

I am now assuming the press has made up it's mind it wants the Republicans OUT, and knows just how to do it (they used the same stuff on Carter)

While that goal may be laudable, people need to settle down....How many people are (a)trying to sell a house (b) trying to borrow money against a house (c) are in trouble on a house as a percent of the national market?

HINT: Don't watch the news to find out, all you will get there is a bunch of hysterical ninnys. Think it's fun now, wait untl FOX owns the freakin' Wall Street Jounal.

RC

You can go back to watching television, Roger. Nothing in reality to concern you, certainly nothing as serious as what is on the tube.

Hank Paulson, who made $700 million at Goldman Sachs before taking over the US Treasury this year ... has reactivated a crisis team with a command centre in Washington to cope with the 'systemic risk' in a market melt-down. His worry? 8,000 unregulated hedge funds with $1.3 trillion at hand, and derivative contracts now worth $370 trillion. 'We need to be very careful here,' he said.

A well-sourced article in Washington's Weekly Standard says Mr Paulson fears a "serious crisis that would be a body-blow to the US economy".

Hmmm. Let's see. Debts of $370 trillion, likely highly leveraged, Cash on hand - $1.3 trillion. I don't see any problem here. Do you?

Lecture me about what's on television and you would source the Weekly Standard?
???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here, have some more "Well sourced" Standard,
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/016tny...

This is the type of crap we are now taking in our constant search for a catastrophe....and frankly, we need one, given that we missed the $100 barrel of oil what, three years running, we missed the gas lines and the riots in the street for about the last two summers, we missed the complete exhaustion of natural gas causing the collapse of the storage salt domes for two winters straight, we missed the invasion of Iran now for two years in a freakin row, we missed the overthrow of the House of Saud since Elvis was alive....
and people complain that folks just won't take the Peak Oil crowd seriously....here's a hint......GIVE IT A FREAKIN REST, WILL YA???

There are threats, and there is IDIOCY. Is there NOTHING that won't set off a panic here?

RC

"8,000 unregulated hedge funds"

And we are going to just go ahead and make the assumption that every fvckin one of those hedge funds has EVERY DIME of that multi trillion dollar debt in unsecured mortgage paper, right... and to top it off, every single mortgage holder is going to be unable to make their payments, ALL at the same time....why would we make such an idiotic assumption?

BECAUSE IT'S MORE FUN THAT WAY! :-)

RC

8,000 unregulated funds ... and two big ones just flat collapsed. The source of a good bit of their stuff is the mortgage market ... twenty billion in ARMs resetting every month for the next ten months straight? OK, and a few months of a quarter of that rate sank the Bear Stearns stuff. Let me think on this for a bit.

Whether peak oil was 11/2005, or last summer, or not for two more years when things really get rolling there will be across the board degradation and periodic spectacular collapses. Perhaps those hedge funds are worth 95% of their claimed value ... today ... but if houses are going to be worth a third of what they are now in the near future ... *B00M.

So we talk about the "thermonuclear blast" about to hit the mortgage market, but its really more like trench warfare in world war II. We've got a million mortgage wave of shells coming, then the whistle blows, and discharged employees go racing into a no man's land of unemployment, no insurance, and blog posts with too many capital letters in them ...

if houses are going to be worth a third of what they are now in the near future ...

The housing market will overcorrect to the downside and certain markets may experience a greater decline in valuation than others but I think 30% of present value is overstating it a bit.

Roger is correct in that the problems in housing will provoke a change in consumer psychology. When the IT industry collapsed as the .com boom imploded the only people affected were those in the industry and those in the markets. The rest shrugged it off.

This problem is far greater in both dollar value and scope. Hard to avoid concern if you see all those for sale signs going up. If consumers retrench then that will bring on a recession.

What is not being addressed in the media is the fact that Hedge funds used significant amounts of borrowed money to perform buy outs of public companies. After the buy out they then added to corporate debt. The result is that you have many firms that may encounter debt service problems if the original rosy projections turn sour. Since labour costs are 70% of corporate expenses trimming the workforce is likely and this further impacts consumer demand. These cuts would be in addition to the likely job losses in the real estate sector. This sector provided approximately 46% of all job growth since 2001.

I was certainly affected by the dotcom bust. Many of our school clients were spooked, and put their building projects on indefinite hold. Suddenly my employers had more staff than work. They laid me and several other people off. There wasn't much to do but leave the area to find work.

wait untl FOX owns the freakin' Wall Street Journal.

I thought FOX (Murdoch) already did own the Wall Street Journal

The Evils of Ethanol

Recent arguments for Ethanol has supporters arguing crops other than corn (cellulosic ethanol) or types of corn not eaten by humans are being made into Ethanol.

The issue is not what particular crop is used to make Ethanol. The issue is the conversion of food producing ACREAGE to ethanol producing acreage. Less food producing acreage = higher food prices. Higher food prices lead to demand destruction. Where food is concerned, demand destruction = starvation. Anyone promoting conversion of food producing acreage to ethanol producing acreage is promoting malnutrition and starvation among the poorest segments of our population who will be 'priced out of the market' for food. That won't just be a problem for the poor. Malnutrition among a growing segment of the population can lead to pandemics the will affect the population as a whole. Politically, Look to the Russian Revolution and the French Revolution. Both were the result of economic decisions made that resulted in reduced food supply. Next time you put Ethanol in your tank, think of the child who is going hungry so you can do that. Next time you make a profit on ethanol, think of the people who are going hungry for you to make that profit. Ethanol profits are blood money.

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/22518.html

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/18419.html

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/14873.html

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/13423.html

http://cid-yama.livejournal.com/6924.html

Another truth respecting the vigilance with which a free people should guard their liberty, that deserves to be carefully observed, is this--that a real tyranny may prevail in a state, while the forms of a free constitution remain.

I've been curious whether, as a matter of chemistry, the same processes that turn cellulose into fuel alcohol couldn't also turn it into directly-edible carbohydrates? Of course, this is what range-cattle and their rumens do - but inefficiently. As a vegan, I think it would be a neat technical twist if the scientific attempt to create cheap new fuels actually provided humans with a whole new source of non-animal food.

Are you mad? Every scientist who even thinks about "improving" or "creating" food should be bound, gagged and thrown in a deep dark dungeon for ever. Don't you think they've done enough destruction to our food already? Hospitals are near bursting with broken humans due to science interfering with our food and food supplies.

Triumvirate of collapse - Economy, Ecosystem, Energy

I won't go into it, but by far the biggest problem is the overabundance of very cheap foods that require no physical effort for the consumer to procure. We are fat, getting fatter and can't control ourselves. Dwarfs any other health problem.

"the biggest problem is the overabundance of very cheap foods that require no physical effort for the consumer to procure"

And who's fault was that? In fact, as well as the utopian minded scientists, better toss all the economists into an even deeper and darker hole just to be on the safe side. Unlike the scientists, who'll find some new way to meet their maker, the economists will be able to feed themselves once they get a free market up and running :)

Then we have hedge fund managers, estate agents, marketing people...

Damn it! Where's Haliburton when you need them?

Triumvirate of collapse - Economy, Ecosystem, Energy

I'm 45 and in the best shape of my life.

Laziness is a choice. I've seen the people dropping their fat kids off at school each morning, and believe me, they need large trucks to get around. Soon they'll need dump trucks.

I realize everything is society's fault, but I think there is a possibility, however remote, that personal responsibility may play some small part in what's going on.

I can't wait until we run out of gas! My only hope is they finish repaving everything the day before so that we have coast to coast bike lanes.

Choices are always constrained, however.

A couple years ago I was planning a trip to a workshop in Austin, TX. I reserved a room at the workshop hotel. A few hours later I got a call from somebody in the travel dept - my room, at $185, was over the limit. I would have to stay elsewhere.

OK, there are other cheaper hotels not too far away. I like to walk. The exercise will do me good. I call a few of these cheaper hotels to check: can I walk from your hotel to the workshop hotel?

Every one of these other hotels said: no, utterly impossible. It's all freeways, limited access highways. No way for a pedestrian to cross! And when I got there, I confirmed this. Utterly unwalkable.

In the end I did manage to stay at the conference hotel. The whole thing was absurd. I was going to have to rent a car for maybe $50 a day to save maybe $20 a day on the hotel!

Exercise really works when it is just an ordinary part of one's daily activity, instead of some wierd isolated extra errand. But our infrastructure is generally designed to make walking and biking impossible or at best extremely treacherous.

Society is of course made up of individuals. Trying to solve these chicken-and-egg paradoxes is a waste of time. The thing to do is to look for places to intervene, to shift the pattern. And a good way to do this is to look around to see what others have tried, what works and what doesn't.

I live in the Tanasbourne development outside Hillsboro, Oregon. For a newly built-up region, I think it is exemplary. For six years I didn't own a car at all. I finally did buy a car but generally drive it just on Sundays, to church and back. Public transportation isn't always practical, unfortunately!

Hospitals are near bursting with broken humans due to science interfering with our food and food supplies.

That is a gross exaggeration if one ever existed. The world is full of people because of science interfering with our food supplies. Science created the green revolution. Science is responsible for all fertilizers and pesticides that give us bumper crops every year. And yes science has given us genetically modified foods that have dramatically increased yields. (Apparently that last one is the one you believe is responsible for our full hospitals.)

But you are correct in one sense. If it had not been for science meddling with our food supply the world would have a population of about half a billion people. So in that sense I suppose they are responsible for most of our current problems caused by overpopulation.

Ron Patterson

Ron, science has indeed done all the things you say and I'm sure economists are very happy with the result. Unfortunately, you've missed the important bit, the really really important bit as far as humans are concerned. Food's nutritional value.

As the scientists have been running their magic wand over our food crops and economists weeding out the least economically efficient food types, the quality and variety of our food has gone into terminal decline. From one report I read it seems that the nutritional value of our food has declined by some 50% since the wonders of the Green Revolution started. I even heard of one major producer whose oranges contained no vitamin C (Hey! But it still looks good after several weeks on the shelves, doesn't dry out and can be used as a football in emergencies).

And that's before we even look at GMO's. No wonder liver damage is on the increase.

We may be well fed, but we're increasingly becoming malnourished due to the quality and type of foods we eat. Under nourished people are susceptible to many and varied illnesses. Evolution's way of weeding out the least fit in a changing environment. Hospitals are attempting to cope with a mass case of food intolerance due to a changing diet which most are unaware is even changing. Whilst in hospital the unfortunates are stuffed to the eyeballs with highly profitable, but mildly toxic pharmaceuticals that attempt to relieve symptoms without treating causes - sometimes with nauseating and embarrassing side effects.

But not to worry, a scapegoat is at hand, The Law of Unintended Consequences. No one's to blame, as everyone was doing what they thought was right and proper. Er! the population increase was also unforeseen, hopefully we'll catch that one next time round, after the unpleasantness of TSHTF.

Wow! And not a conspiracy to be found anywhere :)

Triumvirate of collapse - Economy, Ecosystem, Energy