Economic Impact of Peak Oil Part 1: A Flashback
Posted by Gail the Actuary on September 23, 2007 - 11:00am
Topic: Economics/Finance
Tags: debt, industrial revolution, Robert Ayres, Robert Solow [list all tags]
This is the first part of a three-part series providing my ideas on the economic impact of peak oil.
What happens when peak oil collides with our economic system? It seems to me that there is a high probability of a major discontinuity of some type. What exactly happens after the discontinuity is likely to vary from country to country. It seems to me that the United States is especially vulnerable to a drastic drop in the amount of oil available for import because of the large amount of oil we import and the relatively small amount of goods we export.
Many people when analyzing the world oil situation focus on the relatively small drop in overall world supply in the first few years. From this, they conclude that peak oil will primarily raise the price of oil and some related goods, but not have a huge effect otherwise. If the decrease in oil products is severe, some rationing may be required. I think this analysis misses the big part of the problem – the impact of peak oil on the overall economic system, particularly in the United States.
The world is very different now than it was before the industrial revolution, which began about 1800 when fossil fuels were first used extensively. It seems to me that there is a significant chance that over the long term there will be just as big a change as we leave the age of fossil fuels. To start the discussion, let's start with where we are, and then take a look back.
1. What is our current economic system like?
We all recognize our current economic system. Goods are made in factories around the world. Food is grown on large farms, then processed and packaged before we buy it in grocery stores or restaurants. There is a huge amount of international and local trade that brings all of our goods and services to us.
Most of us have jobs and work for money to purchase the things we need or want. We expect to buy various types of insurance, such as life insurance, auto insurance, and long term care insurance. After we have worked for a number of years, we expect to retire and collect funds from various sources - social security, a pension, or perhaps a 401(k).
To finance all of this, there is a huge financial industry. This industry includes many players:
• Banks and savings and loans
• Insurance companies
• Hedge funds
• Markets that sell stocks, bonds, and a wide variety of derivatives and repackaged debt
• Large numbers of accountants, actuaries, economists, financial advisors, financial planners, quantitative analysts, and others associated with the financial services industry.
We know that this system includes a very large amount of debt. Almost any new factory is “financed”. Businesses use debt to buy other business. Individuals use debt to finance college educations and to purchase homes or cars. In recent years it has become fashionable to refinance home loans as soon as some equity has built up, and use the funds withdrawn to pay down credit card debt.
Governments use debt to just as great an extent as individuals. State and local governments issue bonds to finance a wide range of projects. The federal government has both the debt that it reports, and unfunded programs such as Social Security and Medicare. USA Today reports that when corporate style accounting is used, federal liabilities amount to $59.1 trillion, or $516,348 for each US household. This compares to an average of $112,043 per household in personal debt such as mortgage loans, auto loans, and credit cards.
2. Have economies always been similar to ours today?
We all know that the answer is “No”. Prior to the industrial revolution, most people were farmers, and businesses tended to be quite small. Governments funded big undertakings like roads or water systems (or pyramids). Farmers grew or made most of what they needed. What was left over was sold and traded for other goods. Cities tended to be quite small, because the amount farmers produced over and above what they needed for themselves was not sufficient to support very many additional people. While there was international trade, the volume was much smaller than today.
In businesses and governments, debt seems to have played a lesser role than today. When Lloyd’s of London was formed in 1688 to pool insurance risk, it was formed by a group of wealthy individuals, each pledging a share of their personal wealth as backing for the venture. Thus, the emphasis was on assets rather than debt. The US government did not have significant debt until the Civil War. Its next increase in debt came with World War I.
The use of debt, particularly by individuals, seems to have been viewed quite negatively. The Catholic Church forbad debt until 1822, and Islam to this day forbids paying interest on debt. The Jewish Torah says debts should be erased every seven years and every 50 years. Those who could not repay loans were sometimes sent to debtors’ prisons or became indentured servants or slaves.
Homes and barns were quite simple, and were often built with the help of friends or neighbors, so little debt was needed. Farms and other property tended to stay in families, and were transferred through inheritance. Many of the skills needed to run a farm or small business were learned through apprenticeship, often with the boy’s own father. Retirement was unknown. People would work as long as their heath permitted, and lived with their children when they got older.
Since retirement was unknown, when people saved for the future, it was primarily savings for a “rainy day”-–crop failure or ill health or burial. The stock market and even banks were viewed as risky. Panics, crashes and bubbles happened frequently, making it difficult to predict how markets would behave in the future.
3. How did this huge change in the economic system take place?
One of the big factors in the change was the greater use of fossil fuels, starting about 1800, when coal began to be used to power factories and the steam engine. This allowed for the production of many more goods, and resulted in greatly expanded trade.
Petroleum came into widespread use in the late 19th and early 20th century. Farmers were able to farm larger tracts of land with the use of tractors and other equipment. The green revolution between 1940 and 1960 further increased farm productivity through the greater use of fertilizers (natural gas), pesticides (oil), and pumped irrigation (oil).
4. Wasn't technology important in the change in the economy?
Energy and technology go hand-in-hand. Without energy, it is hard to have much technology improvement. Energy also goes hand in hand with productivity growth, since energy is what permits a machine to do the work a person previously would have done.
5. Have economists studied the relationship between energy and economic growth?
The standard model by which economists explain growth is the Solow-Swan neoclassical growth model, which is described in Robert Solow's 1956 paper A Contribution to the Theory of Economic Growth. This paper looks at the contribution of labor and capital to the growth of the US economy, using a model that assumes that the contributions of labor and capital are proportional to their respective costs. The paper finds that labor and capital in fact explain less than 25% of the actual growth of the US economy. The assumption is then made that "technology" must explain the huge residual.
With a model that explains so little (less than 25% of actual growth), it is not clear that the model is very helpful. The residual comprising over 75% of growth could just as well be energy as technology.
One economic growth model that explains growth quite well is Accounting for Growth, the Role of Physical Work by Robert U. Ayres and Benjamin Warr, Structural Change and Economic Dynamics, February, 2004). This model looks at the amount of work (in a physics sense) that is done by energy. Thus, it considers both the amount of energy used and how productive that energy is. For example, power stations in 1900 converted only 4% of the potential energy in coal to electricity, but by 2000, the conversion efficiency was raised to 35%. This model explains the vast majority of US real economic growth between 1900 and 2000, except for a residual of about 12% after 1975.
Figure 1: Results of model by Ayres and Warr. The selected model is the dotted red line, which includes biomass and animal labor, as well as other types of fuels (fossil and nuclear).
A closely related result from the Ayres and Warr paper is that declining real cost of energy, particularly electricity, and the rising use of the much cheaper electricity, fed economic growth in the 1900 to 1998 period.
Figure 2: Electricity prices and electrical demand, USA 1900 - 1998
6. Has the real price of electricity and other energy products continued to drop in recent years?
Any of us, looking at our electric bills, our natural gas bills, and the cost of fuel for our cars know the answer to this one. Rather than talking about peak oil, perhaps we should be talking about passing the "trough in energy prices".
The Department of Labor shows this graph of changes in the Consumer Price Index for Energy.
Figure 3: Changes in Consumer Price Index for Energy, from the US Department of Labor
The cost of electricity has also been rising since 1999.
Productivity is growing, but not nearly as rapidly as energy costs. The International Energy Association says that energy efficiency is growing at less than 1% per year in its 26 member countries. The US Energy Information Administration forecasts energy efficiency gains ranging from 2.2% to 2.4% per year between 2004 and 2030 in its various forecast scenarios.
One way of confirming the higher real cost of energy is to look at the trend in energy costs as a percentage of GDP. According to the U. S. Energy Information Agency, energy costs rose from 6.0% to 7.4% of US GDP between 1999 and 2004. We all know that since 2004, energy costs have likely risen further.
7. Were there any other factors besides the increased use of fossil fuels that caused a change in the economic system between early days and now?
Yes, there certainly have been many.
One that is important for our analysis is the fact that there was a real change in the way the markets and financing were viewed. Debt was viewed more positively. The stock market came to be viewed as a safe investment. The whole system came to be viewed as sufficiently stable that quantitative analysts could develop sophisticated models of the system and use these to price financial products.
We will look at how this change came about in Part 2. In Part 2, we will also look a little more at where the economy is now.






My car was in the shop yesterday for some much needed repairs (new brakes) so my day was confined to working from home. I drive just as little as possible these days and try to take care of multiple errands in one trip but the thought of being without a car or having no fuel for said auto is going to take some adjusting on my part. I do run my business from home so I have a number of days per year where I put on no miles, but currently I could not continue to conduct my business as usual without an auto.
In my case:
1) A partnership business with a friend who has a car is an asset! We actually both worked at home - but he made the trip into the city about once or twice a week to pick and drop off things.
2) It's nice being able to cycle to work. Alas it's hard to get others interested in the idea - esp. if they need to dress up for work or are dashing around to get here and then get over there to pickup the kids ....
One thing that limits me in our co-housing project is that I want to continue to ride my bike to work - not spend $4k+/year having to get another car and commute (again the costs are purchase, insurance, parking and maintance - gasoline is very low on the list).
A co-housing project in BC called WindSong is interesting in that when they built it it was built in the boondocks and didn't quite meet the vision of the founders; but over the past decade the city swalled it and so public transit is now nearby and people changed their jobs so that cars are not needed ....
A friend (to counter my reduction in pollution and consumption) has a sprawling house all to himself and because it's so hard to walk the 2 blocks to work got himself an e-scooter; but is now finding out that it must be licensed and insured. I'm itching to see what the insurance costs him as the lions share is liability and that's why insurance isn't much less on a motorcycle than a car.
Having talked with a friend - I think that post peak will be a slow ratcheting down and down and down; denial that goes on for years and years. I'm just too cynical about human nature some times. After all - it was amazing how much of a fight there was against a ban against cod fishing; even when everyone (in their gut or research papers) on the east coast knew that they were pretty well fished to extinction. Years later no recovery yet ....
praetzel,
There is so much we could do with conservation and not in any way limit quality of life. For example, we could retrofit homes to be more energy efficient and much more comfortable and all of this with a positive return on investment. Why are we not doing this?, I can tell smart people are investing now in energy conservation measures, it just has not hit the mainstream.
We are. Are you?
I think you are right-on here. I am a CPA and have completed several energy conservation projects around my house over the years. Most recently sealing and insulating the ducting under the floor in the craw space. This is hard and painful work to say the least. At this point in cycle of higher energy costs, only the highly motivated folks take on this kind of self abuse.
I'm driven by the fact that more dificult times (higher energy costs) are just over the horizon. The populous is just to busy to care at this point.
I am also riding my bike to work and have made it part of my routine.
For now, only the driven are leading the way. The rest of the folks will need to evaluate their own tradeoff's before they make changes on the personal energy consumption.
I have been undergoing a conservation effort on my home for about 2 years now, reducing gas usage for heating by 1/2 and reducing electrical use by about 40%. Yes, some of the air-sealing in the attic was not fun but seeing the reduced heating and cooling bills are rewarding. We use less than 1/2 the electricity of our neighbors and far less than 1/2 the natural gas for heating.
Moto insurance is very polar. Insurance on scooters is practically nothing. Usually less than $100/yr. The factors they look at are: where you live and if the scoot will be licked in a garage at night. Second, they look at your experience. Third, they look at what category your bike falls into. If you're n00b rider, expect to pay a lot the first year. Make it through the first year claim free and rates will drop dramatically. Even back when I only had 15 years riding experience, I paid only $70 for a year's worth of full coverage on a Kawasaki 250. I've seen teenagers, buying the fastest sportbike they can afford, and pay $3000/yr to insure a $9000 bike. That's because the insurance companies know that 40% of them are totaled in their first year.
Actually the liability part cost is very low both for cars and bikes. The highest cost by far is uninsured and underinsured motorist coverage, even more then comprehensive.
It is also something no one can afford to be without in view of all the illegals without insurance as well as the very low mandatory liability coverage.
so real growth net of inflation and so is just more energy use and the more productivity we have means just leveraging machinery which of course needs more energy. SO we think out ways to use the energy we found by making bigger, smarter machines so we have growth and productivity. In the end no energy so the machines are useless and the people too.
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Fostering economic growth based on the consumption of absolutely exhaustible resources like fossil fuels was (and is) most unwise. And even tragic when such growth brings society into a state of ever greater dependency on those resources for its basic functioning, as is the case with suburban development.
Gail,
Excellent article and great perspective. It is important to understand that our challenges do not exist in isolation, but are interconnected.
I am not an economist, just a casual observer, but it seems that during the first phase of industrial age, our economy grew with an increasing volume of debt creating the capital to finance the growth. Projects have continued to escalate until we now have mammoth mega-projects costing billions of dollars. As a casual observer, I think it is likely that as we slide down the backside, the gamble on continued growth will be less prudent. Costs of expensive projects with increased possibility of non-success (Jack 2?) will see a contraction of available financing. Many think that there will be the oil out there, it is just not at an economic price to recover. While this is true, we may find that although the cost increases, the risk in these projects may also rise and the result is that they will be much harder to fund. If we have a major economic hit, with decreasing liquidity and collapsing dollars, we may reach a point where these projects can no longer be funded at all. At that point we will not have the ability to recover the economic strength to grow back into a position for fund mega projects. This will be the end of the industrial age.
Of course this is just my humble observations and opinions,
ej
In Part 2, I talk about my take on the current debt situation, and in Part 3, my take on what's ahead.
I agree, there are a lot of economic issues involved with our ability to continue business as usual, in more and more risky environments.
Estamos Jodidos
I'm not an economist either, but rather a little tiny independent contractor in the oil and gas business that occasionally has a fairly accurate flash of insight. I'm pretty well Texocentric, because Texas is where I was raised and make my living. And as westexas has repeatedly pointed out, Texas is big enough to draw conclusions about multiple basin oil trends, but started its main production enough earlier than the rest of the world that we can make some pretty good inferences about world trends by looking at Texas drilling and production history.
Lately I've been cogitating on the concept of Energy Returned On Energy Invested, or EROEI as we call it here. The concept isn't nearly as complex as the name, its how many feet of drilling does an operator have to do to find the reserves. At the beginning of the oil industry of the Gulf Coast the returns were pretty fantastic. Although the EROEI at Spindletop is quoted at 70:1 this is actually way too low. The Kucas Gusher was the third well to attempt to drill at Spindletop, and the discovery was at 1100 ft in depth. Although the field at Spindletop has produced around 160 million barrels from both the cap and sides, the cap rock reservoir has produced about 55 million barrels. That means that if the total footage drilled was about 2500 ft. in these three wells, the amount of oil found was 22,000 barrels per foot and the total cash expended on all three wells was less than $10,000.00. Technology has changed so much that is hard to make a comparison, but an equivalent depth well can be drilled and completed for around $200.00 a foot ($220K for an 1100 ft. well). At $80.00 per bbl for the oil discovered, the Spindletop well would have discovered $4.4 Billion dollars worth of oil for a Return on Investment of 88,000,000 to 1 and an EROEI of 1,760,000 to 1.
However, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the discovery of any new salt dome cap rock fields. The last one discovered onshore in Texas was the Humble Field in 1905.
The real return on investment was nowhere near that high, either, as there were no tanks, no shipping, no refineries so oil prices were all over the place in a thinly traded market. But, the return on investment was so high that Texaco, Gulf and the guys who started the Humble Company can all trace their roots to the 200 acres at Spindletop and it was the beginning of the modern oil industry. Other early fields were very profitable too, and the oil industry expanded very rapidly.
The peak of Texas exploration was in 1930, while the peak of US exploration in 1950. Production for both peaked in 1973. After Texas exploration peaked, the big oil companies began to explore in other parts of the world, and after about 1950 in offshore waters. The cost of finding oil went up exponentially as they adopted much more expensive methods of geophysical exploration and went to frontier areas that were further afield. Meanwhile, the major oil companies had no real setback since the Great Depression.
In the middle 1970's the rest of the world began to catch on to how good a deal they had, the immense profits that the majors were making from the addiction of modern society to crude oil. In the Middle East, the government of KSA (The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) renegotiated the original leases that gave the KSA 12.5% of the gross sales price of the oil to the formation of Aramco, with the KSA owning 50% of the Saudi fields and western oil companies 50%. Soon the result was that the majors were forced out of Aramco. The Iranians threw out the Shah, and the western oil companles with them and the wave of National Oil Company (NOC) production began in earnest. Escalating prices even resulted in an oil price freeze by Nixon in the US, and then the Windfall Profits Tax.
But the market was growing so fast and the costs were still so low that the Majors continued to make money as fast as they could rake it in. But, the Majors became merely the big oil companies. The NOC's now owned 82% of the world production, the independents in the US about another 6%-8% and the majors were pushed off their fat, full teat to sucking away at rapidly depleting ones.
In the meantime their overhead has kept swelling. They can't make any money off fields that have less than 25 million barrels, and they've drilled up all the acreage thats possible for giant fields in US onshore or offshore waters. Thats why they like the Alberta Bitumen. Its the only place they can see a big prize in a halfway politicially safe area. And, they act like dinosaurs on a short grass prairie. Because some of their tactics worked in the past, they think they will work today. Political donations worked wonderfully with the Democrats and Lyndon Johnson, so they have kept putting more and more money in politics. This was OK with Lyndon Johnson and John Nance Garner, because they were good men and true patriots. But they've put their money behind more and more cheap theives who are greedy for power, and now we have the Bush Dynasty, Cheney and James Baker, whom I consider to be traitors because they could care less except where their pockets are concerned.
The big oil companies are just about finished. They can't survive as giants, and aren't smart enough to get smaller to get nimble, just as the car companies can't see that they need to ditch the internal combustion engine for hybrids and electric cars. And what scares me is they may decide to take down the world rather than change while they have time and money to change.
` Bob Ebersole
" the car companies can't see that they need to ditch the internal combustion engine for hybrids and electric cars"
I think important parts of the leadership at GM are getting it - GM seems to be really be putting their full resources behind the Volt. Toyota gets it, though they don't want to admit publicly that PHEV's are the next big thing, as they don't have their PHEV ready yet. Honda wants to expand their hybrids, but they've had a hard time getting it right: the Insight was too small, the Accord was tooo big (I'm thinking about the 3 Bears...).
The rest of the industry is following, albeit very reluctantly. They don't really like hybrids, but most are planning to come out with a fair number of them. Ford and Mercedes are among the worst. The case of Ford is kind of sad, as they had a good beginning under Bill Ford with the Escape.
I'm a bit pessimistic about the fate of Ford & Chrysler longterm, but I think GM has a decent chance.
The only way G.M. survives is by shafting each and every one of their pensioners. They're far more heavily loaded than the other two U.S. makers and the financial news always prognosticates their doom well in advance of Ford and the Chrysler contraption.
I think all three of the big three are doomed and the only way we'll see an auto maker here will be a post bankruptcy consolidation of the big three, picking over what capacity they've got to build 2.0L and smaller vehicles.
"The only way G.M. survives is by shafting each and every one of their pensioners. "
That would certainly take care of the problem - just eliminating pensions would put all 3 automakers solidly in the black, and on an even footing with Asian manufacturers. Other things might help, like national health insurance, or allocating a portion of an increased gas tax to subsidize new, domestic, car sales.
allocating a portion of an increased gas tax to subsidize new, domestic, car sales
WHAT A WASTE OF TAX $ !
Alan
Amen!
Yes, but politically acceptable, right? If no one has credit its an empty gesture, yes?
Trying to think sneaky like a politician is hard work ...
[just eliminating pensions would put all 3 automakers solidly in the black]
Maybe they could knock over a few liquor stores too--that would help their bottom line.
Well, there are several points here. One is that if Detroit goes bankrupt, that doesn't necessarily mean the end of the industry. If they shed pension obligations, they could emerge from bankruptcy as very viable & competitive operations. I'm not suggesting that's not a morally good thing, but it's useful to keep in mind.
2nd, if Detroit sheds it's pension obligations, that doesn't necessarily mean killing the pensions. Another options is to federalize them, which would happen partially in any case with the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC). That's a choice for us as a society to make.
3rd, we're the only major country in the world that makes it's corporations responsible for health care, especially for retirees. That's an enormous competitive disadvantage for Detroit. Add in other subsidies like the military shield, and currency differentials, and there’s a pretty good case for helping Detroit.
Let the investors and banks help Detroit. No tax money for corporations like US auto companies that have made bad choices due to mismanagement of assets and employees.
US government will be hard pressed to fund projects that will help its citizens adapt to less available imported oil. We need more money put in the energy efficient rail mode, not conitinued funding of the energy wasteful auto/ highway mode through taxpayer bailouts. We need fewer cars, over the road trucks and highway lanes in the post peak oil world. Bancruptcy and subsequent consolidation of the US auto industry will help in this regard.
US did not bail out the RR's except for the meager passenger train business called Amtrak. It helped some banctrupt RR's through loans which were paid back or grants recouped through later sales of assets (Conrail in late 1990's).
The automotive companies are a good example of how the need for growth gets wired into an organizations structure.
Everyone here knows that Detroit needs to be building and selling high efficiency cars for it to survive and the US to transition, but instead Detroit clings to huge SUVs (and the profit margins) and fights the CAFE standards. They have no choice. It is high profit margins or be crushed on the burden of past promises.
How many other systems are going to choose to break, rather than transition, because of a past assumption of infinite growth? How many ways is Infinite Growth woven into our corporate and financial systems?
Pensions are a good example. A pension is a bet that future growth will allow the company pay all prior employees on top of paying wages for current employees. And it is the bet that the pension obligation would be less burdening than just paying a higher wage now (and letting the employee worry about retirement planning).
Both the management and the union bought into the infinite growth idea. And both will lose that bet. They must in a declining world energy situation. The only solution is that everyone loses. How to contract the economy in an orderly fashion with the least amount of outright poverty, starvation and death?
Jon Freise
Analyze Not Fantasize -D. Meadows
I don't understand why conservatives want to default on corporate pensions while liberals want to default on corporate bonds.
What's the difference?
Pensions are much more important to the less wealthy, bonds more important to the more wealthy...
Seems too easy - did I mist the trick question?
What has hurt the Big 3 the most is mainly past mismanagement. They gave up the bottom end of the market 3 decades ago thinking they would concentrate on a more upscale market segment reaping a higher profit ratio. Instead they watched as the Japanese figured out how to make a profit in the lower end of the market and then use the toe hold to start expanding their product offerings.
GM has lost market share almost every year since about 1977. Ditto Chrysler. Ford has had a few years of upwards market share, but mainly at the expense of, yup you guessed it, GM.
They have simply refused to battle the Japanese in the trenchs. Now they get to live with their mistakes. And all the while market shares eroded, execs at the big 3 take home lordly salaries and bonuses.
And they have the gall to blame it all on the unions, OMG give me a break.
It isn't hard to see that yes pension obligations that were made when they enjoyed higher market share and unit sales are going to be a problem in a lower throughput situation. But not hardly the average workers fault. Mainly the total lack of vision, planning and asset allocation.
The big three have a pension obligation of about $750 for vehicle while the Japanese companies are all less than $200. The big three have been constrained by organized labor in some cases and unable to change or close factories. There are a lot of other factors, but we were talking pension liabilities.
Would the vision required to steer through what is coming have worked for a company required to report to its investors every ninety days? Nope ... the slate gets wiped clean and we find out what they have that is salvageable.
Part of my father's pension which still feeds my mom was due to some time spent at Fisher Body, the coachwork builder for General Motors. I don't have anything against union workers or investors ... just trying to figure out what happens next.
Yes, I agree. But the one thing that gets often ignored is that the unit pension cost would be MUCH lower if they had not frittered away market share, closing plant after plant after plant in the process.
They trumpet about their labor, pension and medical costs even as unit sales drop further. It has been a HUGE failure of management most especially at the steering and product planning levels.
They steadfastly refuse to publicly face the very root of their problem, product offerings. And for the most part they have been aided and abetted by the investment community. Only a very few analysts mention this issue.
Simply amazing to me, a retail business MUST offer product that the consumer wants. They have for the large part failed on this front.
That's like saying someone's brain cancer would be much smaller as a portion of their body weight if they gained 100 pounds.
It is accurate to say that the fixed costs of union workers are getting larger proportionately as the company gets smaller. However, "grow your way out of it" is not an achievable solution for a lumbering giant in a mature business. There was never any guarantee that GM could just bulk up and maintain a stable or growing market share.
Theft is always a good solution, is it not?
Some men rob the passerby
For a bit of cash to spend
Some men rob whole countries dry
And still get called their friend
And under the feeding frenzy
There's a wound that will not mend
From the song "The Mines of Mozambique" from the album "the charity of Night"
You can steal the pensions of the elderly, you can extend the Indian Wars to last indefinitely, you can globalize the genocide of "Injun Country" and you can pretend to rule the planet with raw brutality for God and Democracy, but ultimately you are left with whatever love you have managed to give.
The so-called "Free Market" is a tiny invention into which we have tried to imprison all of the genius of humanity, and with which we have destroyed ourselves and our planet.
The best thing for GM and Ford to do is to repent. The corporations have long outlived any good they do. Laborers should be paid their pensions, stockholders payed if any money is left, and the corporations dissolved.
Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. Creative destruction in the capitalist world, eh?
Now that Chrysler is under private ownership, I think the money men will right the ship and either take it public again and get out, or sell off the whole thing in chunks.
Ford, on the other hand, has some winning aces, but is unwilling to play them. It already builds small, efficient (even diesel!) vehicles. However, they well them everywhere else in the world. Why they'd rather flirt with bankruptcy than bring those vehicles here, just boggles the mind.
damac,
I suspect the Hedge Funds plan to loot whatever's left in th pension funds, sell the real estate and scuttle. They only paid the Germans 5 cents on the dollar for what they paid for the company. But combine Caiman Islands bank secrecy with the Bushites non-disclosure for Hedge Funds and theres a perfect opportunity for piracyBob Ebersole
It's tougher than you think to bring European vehicles here.
First, European vehicles use interior components that require a different voltage than U.S. does.
That makes mixing and matching parts an impossibility.(hence GM's struggles to go "global")
Second, European vehicles don't meet U.S. Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.
Third, a lot of those high efficiency diesels are dirty! Unless they can meet future EPA emission standards, car co.s won't consider bringing them here.
Fourth, and probably most significantly, there hasn't been a big enough demand for diesel cars stateside. That makes it difficult for marketing departments to identify a "reason for being".
Last, diesel is not as widely available as is gasoline. not every fuel station sells it. Ironically E85 is VERY difficult to find but many new cars are E85 capable.
Spaceman said
This seems to be a common American misconception. All passenger car diesels currently sold in the EU conform to the Euro4 standard. I currently drive a Citroen C3 diesel - a small 4 seater, 5 door hatchback with a high efficiency engine and a particulate filter on the exhaust. Does about 50mpg in town. (I'm not an aggressive driver!) If I stand behind it when it's idling I don't see or smell anything.